feedback on the tagging system

Aug 14, 2017
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just a feedback from an user standpoint about the state of tags here. I have 4 points, these are:
  • There's not enough tags
  • I can't add nor create new tags as an user
  • Some tags are not well-defined or wrong
  • There's some overlap on tagging features
There's not enough Tags

The tags should, ideally, almost be an UID for a game, where each particular convention implemented inside the game should be a tag. That's how every good imageboard is, when here we don't even have a fellatio tag, in a good imageboard we have tags like this:
  • 1boy
  • 1girl
  • animal ears
  • breasts
  • censored
  • cleavage
  • erection
  • fellatio
  • green eyes
  • kissing penis
  • large penis
  • looking at viewer
  • mosaic censoring
  • nipples
  • nude
  • oral
  • ponytail
  • pov
  • pubic hair
  • white hair
Of course an image is much more self-contained than a game, some games would probably surpass 100 tags, but there are no downsides here. In the end, you would be able to, for instance, find a random image of a game online, and search for all the tags you can extract from that particular image, and find the source of it.

There's also too few gameplay/technical tags, there are some obvious candidates for tags here, based on common features across many games, some examples:
  • clothing system
  • cg on loss
  • standing picture
  • cg during combat
  • schedule system (like scars of summer and such)

I can't add tags nor create new tags as an user

The community effort of descriptively tagging a game is severely slowed down if adding a tag (not even creating a new one, just adding) is a pain. Imageboards like danbooru kindly ask users to be reasonable and reuse the existing tags, and be prudent when creating new ones, and it works really well.

Some tags are not well-defined or wrong

Some existing tags need some work,some are just wrong and others are not well-defined (what does the sandbox tag even mean when extra life, bitchlife, lonarpg and detective girl are all tagged as sandbox. obs: lonarpg is the only sandbox of those 4).
  • Split the ntr tag (becomes netorase, netori, netorare)
  • clear definition of tags like sandbox
There's some overlap on tagging features

lastly, just a minor annoyance is the prefix feature and the thread name encoding. Basically both of these features shouldn't exist, as far as the user is concerned, they're just a tag, some tags could be interpreted differently, like most imageboards do.
There's no reason the status, engine, and other prefixes shouldn't just be a tag which is presented differently in the UI.

[RPGM] LonaRPG [v0.6.8.2.1 Beta] [EccmA417]​

should just be:

LonaRPG [v0.6.8.2.1 Beta]​

tagged with rpgm, eccma417, wip
 
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Meaning Less

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There's not enough Tags
The reason why they aren't adding more tags is here.
I can't add tags nor create new tags as an user
That's a planned feature. But it will probably take a while for them to implement since it is a complex change.
Some tags are not well-defined or wrong
You need to read the tag definitions to understand what each tags means for f95, if you see any game not following those definitions you should report and moderation will fix it.
  • Split the ntr tag (becomes netorase, netori, netorare)
  • clear definition of tags like sandbox
-the ntr tag already just counts for netorare and some cases of jealous netorase because of its definition.
Cases of netorase that don't involve jealousy usually get the swinging tag.
There is no tag for netori
yet so those games just fall under the cheating tag.
-Sandbox is just free roam

There's some overlap on tagging features
Prefixes aren't the same thing as tags, that's why they show up in a different place. Personally I like that because it makes it very easy to distinguish what engine the game is running rather than having to fish them out from a huge list of tags.
 
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I think it would be a great addition to have something like another tier for tags (something like "Major Tags").
You would only be able to put at max 2 tags on that tier.
So, if you search for the major tag "lesbian", you can be sure that you will be shown games that will be about lesbians, and not just have a single lesbian scene on a sea of other kind of scenes.
 
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Aug 14, 2017
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I'm happy to know a tag revamp is planned.

I think it would be a great addition to have something like another tier for tags (something like "Major Tags").
You would only be able to put at max 2 tags on that tier.
So, if you search for the major tag "lesbian", you can be sure that you will be shown games that will be about lesbians, and not just have a single lesbian scene on a sea of other kind of scenes.
a major tag could just be another tag really, maybe a convention affix like lesbian-focus

Prefixes aren't the same thing as tags, that's why they show up in a different place. Personally I like that because it makes it very easy to distinguish what engine the game is running rather than having to fish them out from a huge list of tags.
I don't think that would make a difference, as I've said, they could still be just a tag and be presented/selected differently. Tags exist for the sole reason of categorizing something with a keyword(s), the engine a game was made sounds like a perfect fit, but for some reason it's not a tag.

-Sandbox is just free roam
aside from differing from the real sandbox meaning, every non-linear game falls on this tag, which we should be able to differentiate
 
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