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Mister_M I really don't mind some mandatory maledom, as long as the femdom content is worth (take Bound by Lust as an example, there's that BJ bs scene in the beginning, there's a lot of maledom routes and scenes, but femdom content is worth so far).
Even if the game is somewhat generalist and femdom content belongs only to a particular route, it is fine imo, as long as it is good and we don't have to constantly face not-femdom content in that particular route. And I think that's how the thread currently works.
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As for cuckolding, forced-bi and other fetishes, I actually completely agree that it is not femdom at all in most of the cases. Most of the cases are just
male submission instead of
female domination. That's easily perceived if you just remove that "beta-faggot-bitch-boy" from the scene: it will become nothing but an ordinary vanilla or maledom content about 95% of the "cuckolding femdom video" and shit like that.
It is actually laughable how most of these scenes comes with anti-femdom messages and slurs. It's something weird to understand - let's watch a femdom video that virtually says that femdom is bad. Below we have some examples of sentences that I'm pretty sure most of the users in this thread have seen while searching for a good femdom content.
- "You're just a faggot, I like real alpha men!" (then why are you present in a video/game/whatever labeled as "femdom"? To show us how much you like to submit to men?)
- "Only real men can satisfy me!" (I see, so could you please stop wasting my time and give your place to a real woman who enjoys to be properly served?)
- "No woman likes a beta cucky like you" (oh dear, you're speaking for yourself, not for every woman in the world. And if it bothers you, take a slutty dress and go out on the city with a huge sign with words "I'M A SUBMISSIVE BITCH AND I NEED AN ALPHA MALE TO RUIN ME IN THE BED" written on it and stop flooding my search results with bs that are not femdom at all)
- "Beta guys like you cannot satisfy me" (agreed, and I'd also say that we are not seeking to serve a submissive girl like you. So, again, please give your place for an actual queen who enjoy to be served as we are not interested in "daddy's personal bitch girls" who loves to be slapped by an alpha man)
I usually blame Masoch for these people who typically advocates common cuckolding scenes as a "true femdom" content. I mean, when you ask someone about a famous femdom story, "Venus in Furs" is among the most widely known.
However, while Venus in Furs does have femdom content in the story, the big picture is purely maledom. The book's moral basically says that a relationship is always based in D/s, and it won't work well if Dom = woman and Sub = man. That's the whole meaning behind that last cuckolding scene, which leads MC to flee and permanently leave his mistress.
That said, there are cases where cuckolding and related stuff can be femdom, but honestly, it's not cuckolding itself that makes it femdom. Take a reverse case as example: the sub cheating on someone. For example, an story where the sub cheats on his vanilla wife for a domina. Or even cheating on a domina for another domina.
All of these cases are examples of femdom plots, but it "being femdom" is not really determined by the cheating/cuck/NTR stuff. And since cuckolding is not the decisive point about a story being femdom or not, I think this is the reason why most people in this thread agree that no game is femdom just because it has some cuckolding inside it.
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As for Hardcore Femdom game... honestly, I downloaded it and played, but:
- It is just a demo and F95zone didn't upload the full version. So, the content you'll find is simply too poor for someone say "heeeey, this game should be in that list".
- Femdom content is mostly cliche insulting and trampling/bootlicking stuff.
- It also features maledom content, with the dominating girl being clearly inferior to her "alpha man" (alpha male > girl > doormat boi). He also engages in trampling and shoelicking receiver (alongside the overused "fag boi" and similar insults).
When I say that "it is just a demo and the content is too poor", you guys can try it for yourselves. I set to "Skip Unseen text" in Preferences and hold my Ctrl key in the beginning, after initial choices (with Mistress Yuki saying: "I love you daddy"), while using my phone's stopwatch to time it. It reached the demo's end in about 11 seconds. Maybe we could find more femdom stuff in the full game, but I cannot say it based on what I saw.
For now, in my opinion... unless you guys are interested in making some changes in this thread, creating some sort of categories like those you can find in that "Futa on male thread" - where you can find a category with games that are really poor in futa on male content (but nonetheless there's at least one scene with futa on male - so, well, they include the game in that list)... I don't see any strong reason to put this game in this thread's list.
Also, if the full game is released, maybe it could be properly evaluated, but that's another discussion.
And for my opinion about such a category system, I honestly don't think the effort to put "games poor in femdom but with a femdom scene" in our list is worth. So basically... yeah, keep as it is, the list is great as it is now and that's it.
Text is already long, I think it is enough xd
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