Recommending Femdom Finder 2.0

[Sorreah]

If I can be frank, I am not big on the nothing is forever hype train. It is very well written, in many ways too well written. The thing is the dev writing it writes from a very realistic approach and a lot of scenarios are grounded into a proper build up and approach that encompasses a lot of safe practices people need to do IRL.

The issue I have is I play games to get away from that reality, I don't want that amount of realism when I just want to fish around in kinks and desires. Unfortunately, many games do cross the line and go from kinky/hot fantasy to just straight abuse, and the novelty in NiF lies in that its a far healthier approach and well grounded in its realism.

It's damn hard to find a nice balance between the two though. For instance, I love the idea of watersports and even scat in a fantasy setting can be hot, but to practice it in reality is just a huge no. The way NiF is written addresses consent and lot of things in a healthy manner, but I am not looking for realistic safe practices when I am playing a game.

I think NiF is a perfect game for people who can't distinguish fantasy and reality and need to understand how healthy normal relationships work and how to discuss and communicate with your partner. For a kinky fantasy game though, its quite dull and misses the mark there.

A lot of games miss the mark to be honest, or I'm just too picky. There is a lot of things I find hot in games but its obviously bad if not outright illegal from a realism point of view.

I personally want to see a game that isn't rooted in a matriarch society where the femdom goes hard but from a place of "this is because its wanted" not as a form of abuse/punishment (most egregious sinners among this is the femdom games that require you to lose to get that kind of content, because its a "fail").

I don't know how to express this clearly since I have had this conversation I think many times but I just can't communicate it well. I think femdom comes from the female in charge and catering to what SHE wants, and with the domme taking responsibility of you giving over that trust means that she will also be aware and think of what makes you happy as well. Be it selfish, abusive, humiliating, kinky, whatever else, so long as it comes from mutal attraction and/or love that all parties are on board with, and that is understood by the nature of playing the game, not having a full break down of consent and discussion of what is the do's and don'ts of the relationship.

 

[warrenitro]

Is unpopular to say that the Nothing is Forever's MC is really bad? I never really liked him but the whole pushing femdom in the girls makes it feel forced. Also , the last scene with Kim was terrible, telling her what she can do? Jesus...

Does the latest update in Nothing is Forever have much new content? I thought it was mostly bug fixes etc.

 

[Mister_M]

Does the latest update in Nothing is Forever have much new content? I thought it was mostly bug fixes etc.

It adds animations, there's now 140+ animations in the game, it adds some QoL improvements, changes soundtrack in few places, adds new vanilla route with Jen and fixes some spelling/grammar issues. New content will be added with new chapter planned to be released in October/November.

 

[warrenitro]

It adds animations, there's now 140+ animations in the game, it adds some QoL improvements, changes soundtrack in few places, adds new vanilla route with Jen and fixes some spelling/grammar issues. New content will be added with new chapter planned to be released in October/November.

Thanks, I’ll wait for the next update then

 

[saddlface]

Exactly my thoughts. It feels more like the girls doing for MC pleasure and don't have any desire in dominance. Kim is the worse exemple, she has her "bad bitch" "do what she want" personality but with the MC It feels like she is being told what to do like a dog... I don't think It need any forced scene but the girls aren't proactive.

FWIW I never got the vibe from that game that you guys are describing here. You seem to be saying the MC is topping from the bottom, but thats not how it felt to me. Choosing submission and to relinquish control when you could have had a more equal role is also a kink and I think the dev does it in a pretty hot way. Especially with Emma who was your former rival in a competitive relationship but you now submit to her. To me it feels like you are sacrificing your dignity because you are so enraptured by the LI not topping from the bottom. Or maybe I just wasn't paying close enough attention. Also, full disclosure, I cheated the stats in that game from the start to ensure that I would get all the choices involving femdom, not sure if that made a difference in how I experienced it. Either way its one of the best games around for femdom content IMO. (For some reason the Deb scenes are just 'meh" to me btw but the Kim and Emma stuff is HOT.)

 

[Mister_M]

FWIW I never got the vibe from that game that you guys are describing here. You seem to be saying the MC is topping from the bottom, but thats not how it felt to me. Choosing submission and to relinquish control when you could have had a more equal role is also a kink and I think the dev does it in a pretty hot way. Especially with Emma who was your former rival in a competitive relationship but you now submit to her. To me it feels like you are sacrificing your dignity because you are so enraptured by the LI not topping from the bottom. Or maybe I just wasn't paying close enough attention. Also, full disclosure, I cheated the stats in that game from the start to ensure that I would get all the choices involving femdom, not sure if that made a difference in how I experienced it. Either way its one of the best games around for femdom content IMO.

I don't have any problems with Emma's femdom route, right now it's my fav as a matter of fact. And it's not like I feel MC is topping from the bottom in relationships as a whole, just that there are scenes - esp. with Kim - when he's really pushing the other party to dom him much more than the girls seem interested. For example, I think I'd like it more if Deb would bring him the cage and then he'd decide to accept being under her control or not, and not him bringing the cage essentially making her cage him (even tho it's also her kink). But it's the only time I felt that with Deb. With Kim he's more commanding in a way, dropping on his knees without being asked to and going all subby and needy on her. Not that it's unnatural, there's a lot of folks like that (on femdom discord servers especially), but it seems like he's pushing her to be the perfect domme for him (at least on this route) more than she's making him a suitable sub for her. It's not my fav way of doing things, but I still find the scenes hot.

 

[saddlface]

I don't have any problems with Emma's femdom route, right now it's my fav as a matter of fact. And it's not like I feel MC is topping from the bottom in relationships as a whole, just that there are scenes - esp. with Kim - when he's really pushing the other party to dom him much more than the girls seem interested. For example, I think I'd like it more if Deb would bring him the cage and then he'd decide to accept being under her control or not, and not him bringing the cage essentially making her cage him (even tho it's also her kink). But it's the only time I felt that with Deb. With Kim he's more commanding in a way, dropping on his knees without being asked to and going all subby and needy on her. Not that it's unnatural, there's a lot of folks like that (on femdom discord servers especially), but it seems like he's pushing her to be the perfect domme for him (at least on this route) more than she's making him a suitable sub for her. It's not my fav way of doing things, but I still find the scenes hot.

I guess I sort of get that. Will have to go back and check it out again perhaps. I sort of got it in my mind with her that she was just bitchy and disinterested. Like he had to plead with her just to pay attention to him. Like a dog looking for attention.

 

[Mister_M]

I guess I sort of get that. Will have to go back and check it out again perhaps. I sort of got it in my mind with her that she was just bitchy and disinterested. Like he had to plead with her just to pay attention to him. Like a dog looking for attention. I kind of like that. I'm fucked up.

In this context it would be fun to see Kim denying him, making him grovel and beg more while she laughs at him (tbh some harsh verbal humiliation could be a good idea for her in general, for now Emma wins in this category), and then appearing suddenly to degrade him when he's not expecting it.

 

[Sorreah]

I guess I sort of get that. Will have to go back and check it out again perhaps. I sort of got it in my mind with her that she was just bitchy and disinterested. Like he had to plead with her just to pay attention to him. Like a dog looking for attention. I kind of like that. I'm fucked up.

I don't know about the others, I never felt MC is topping from the bottom or anything like that either. I don't think there is anything like that, if anything, its just being extremely clear and open about boundaries and what is allowed vs what isn't. Like I said in my long-ass post, its just a lot of realism and good real world practices.

How the characters are in NiF is how people in healthy relationships SHOULD be talking about and approaching their kinks and sex life. It's just a little too on the nose for my taste.

 

[J1215]

An update of the game "Nothing Is Forever" has been released:

https://f95zone.to/threads/nothing-is-forever-v0-6-3-mrsilverlust.87506/

 

[Holefiller]

A while ago, I remember reading a review for some femdom game (I don't remember which one) and the reviewer was complaining about how the game was bad because the bdsm wasn't "Safe, Sane, and Consensual". It took all of the restraint I had left to not report the review for being spam.

 

[Mister_M]

A while ago, I remember reading a review for some femdom game (I don't remember which one) and the reviewer was complaining about how the game was bad because the bdsm wasn't "Safe, Sane, and Consensual". It took all of the restraint I had left to not report the review for being spam.

Moving Down?

 

[Holefiller]

Moving Down?

Just checked and no, it wasn't that one. Although the sentiment was the same, the review I remember reading was way more schizo.

EDIT: Some of the complaints made by the Moving Down reviewer are sane, even if I don't agree. Imo, a video game is a fantasy, and a fantasy needs to be immersive. If the femdom is also a fantasy for the characters in the game itself then that adds an additional barrier to the immersion. I feel the same way about cosplay in porn, why would I want to watch one set of characters larp as another set of characters? I don't think 50 Shades of Gray had a moral obligation to accurately represent BDSM culture when its trying to be a fantasy. If I were to criticize Moving Down, I'd criticize it for having an idiotic and pathetic protagonist who isn't even worth dominating to begin with.

 

[Sorreah]

A while ago, I remember reading a review for some femdom game (I don't remember which one) and the reviewer was complaining about how the game was bad because the bdsm wasn't "Safe, Sane, and Consensual". It took all of the restraint I had left to not report the review for being spam.

I think you mean Queen Salia's game, FemU: Zero. There was someone complaining heavily about the consent in the game, even though literally the first thing you do within the first 3 minutes of the game is get a content warning and give consent for everything that's about to happen to you.

edit: guess not, no crazy reviews there, but I do remember someone way off their rocker about the consent about it in the topic

 

[Etheric]

FWIW I never got the vibe from that game that you guys are describing here. You seem to be saying the MC is topping from the bottom, but thats not how it felt to me. Choosing submission and to relinquish control when you could have had a more equal role is also a kink and I think the dev does it in a pretty hot way. Especially with Emma who was your former rival in a competitive relationship but you now submit to her. To me it feels like you are sacrificing your dignity because you are so enraptured by the LI not topping from the bottom. Or maybe I just wasn't paying close enough attention. Also, full disclosure, I cheated the stats in that game from the start to ensure that I would get all the choices involving femdom, not sure if that made a difference in how I experienced it. Either way its one of the best games around for femdom content IMO. (For some reason the Deb scenes are just 'meh" to me btw but the Kim and Emma stuff is HOT.)

Well, I player the game twice and slow, checking all characters so this os my thoughts,

Lena and Jen are both "sub" characters and I was expecting them to learn dominance but most scene seems like RP. Also, femdom where you cheat? Jesus...

Deb had potencial, but her whole relationship problem seems to treat you as stress relief therapy.

Emma is good but the MC really ruins It.

For Kim, I really have no idea where you saw her as disinterested. Chapter 1-2 she was a terciary character asking you to stay shut, Chapter 3-4 (Prime Kim) was her best moment and easily made her the best since she took innitiative and show her clear dominant side, Chapter 5-6 ruins its since the protagonist tell HER what she CAN do. Obs: She is a CHEATER and take pleasure from it, but the protagonist have to say that she CAN OR NOT cheat?

Just saying, everyone has their own preference, but I don't see this as the great femdom game that people claim. I think that estate : dominate is unrepleaceable.

 

[Mister_M]

Well, I player the game twice and slow, checking all characters so this os my thoughts,

Lena and Jen are both "sub" characters and I was expecting them to learn dominance but most scene seems like RP. Also, femdom where you cheat? Jesus...

Deb had potencial, but her whole relationship problem seems to treat you as stress relief therapy.

Emma is good but the MC really ruins It.

For Kim, I really have no idea where you saw her as disinterested. Chapter 1-2 she was a terciary character asking you to stay shut, Chapter 3-4 (Prime Kim) was her best moment and easily made her the best since she took innitiative and show her clear dominant side, Chapter 5-6 ruins its since the protagonist tell HER what she CAN do. Obs: She is a CHEATER and take pleasure from it, but the protagonist have to say that she CAN OR NOT cheat?

Just saying, everyone has their own preference, but I don't see this as the great femdom game that people claim. I think that estate : dominate is unrepleaceable.

I think this is a valid critique - even tho my appreciation of the game clearly differs from yours - and seeing how the dev is always looking for ways to make his game better (some folks said there's not enough vanilla and he just added vanilla route for Jen for example), maybe it's smth that could be said in the game's thread or in discord?

 

[Mister_M]

I checked 2 games tagged femdom:
1. Ancient Times is in dire need of proofreader, choices are non existent, cause the dev thought it'll be a good idea to have a prologue where one choice will proceed the plot and the other will be left for the future. So for now it's a kinetic novel with empty clicking. We are therefore derailed into a sex scene: we allow a girl to stay with us, cause her life is in danger, which of course leads to her sucking MC's dick. Deleted.

2. Hung Kong as expected is a sissifaction game, but since some such games have few nice femdom scenes before sissy turn I thought I'll check this one too. There's not much to do for now unfortunately and we are very quickly introduced to forced bi and cuckolding. Deleted.

Then I played Starfield, I'm lvl 43 atm.

 

[saddlface]

Then I played Starfield, I'm lvl 43 atm.

No sexy stuff in Starfield eh? Maybe good mods are coming I read somewhere?

 

[Mister_M]

No sexy stuff in Starfield eh? Maybe good mods are coming I read somewhere?

There's basic romance, marriage possibility and probs some sexy time (one), but the romance writing is abyssmal. You can check the reddit thread about it if you wanna know how bad it is. I do however romance one character - Andreja - but mostly just to see for myself how it goes. The companions are nowhere near as interesting as in Mass Effect series or Baldur's Gate 3 and all interactions with them feel stiff and very random, there's no sense of them being aware what's going on around them. In any case, if you want to continue the main story after finishing the main quest all of that doesn't really matter anyway. Don't wanna spoil too much tho if you haven't played.

BTW tomorrow BG3 gets new big patch, so I'll be playing that thru the weekend, and tomorrow I'm gonna finish Life is Strange.

BTW #2 I just finished Netflix series Brand New Cherry Flavor with Rosa Salazar. Was pretty good, somewhat Lynchian, even tho disappointing at times and felt rushed at the end. I loved - since I'm talking about Netflix - Copenhagen Cowboy, also with interesting and strong female protagonist. I know that most people don't enjoy that series, but imo it's freaking awesome.

Well, that was one big digression from femdom, sorry everyone. It's past 5 am, I think I really need to sleep.

 

[Sorreah]

I checked 2 games tagged femdom:
1. Ancient Times is in dire need of proofreader, choices are non existent, cause the dev thought it'll be a good idea to have a prologue where one choice will proceed the plot and the other will be left for the future. So for now it's a kinetic novel with empty clicking. We are therefore derailed into a sex scene: we allow a girl to stay with us, cause her life is in danger, which of course leads to her sucking MC's dick. Deleted.

2. Hung Kong as expected is a sissifaction game, but since some such games have few nice femdom scenes before sissy turn I thought I'll check this one too. There's not much to do for now unfortunately and we are very quickly introduced to forced bi and cuckolding. Deleted.

Then I played Starfield, I'm lvl 43 atm.

I played hung kong too, I think you wrote it off too fast here. It's got potential and it has a lot to do for a version 1 that you probably didn't uncover (yay bugs). Like after a few hours, I will still discovering stuff. Can't say anything about the forced bi and cuckolding, but there is some legit grounds for a lot of good femdom content that it's a little harsh to write off on a very first release.