Recommending Femdom Finder

[Deleted member 1571565]

I assume you mean filter out of games? Because one of the features on the new front page is exactly a double filter, so that you can search for games via both included and excluded tags?! So, I'll assume you mean games which don't mix the two. In the last case I completely agree. I am okay if at least there are vacuum-sealed, separate paths. As time goes, I am less and less willing to even try games where the femdom is but a scene or two in a soup of everything else.

In fact I observed another issue which is even harder for devs to implement. Namely: femdom is a wide genre, and some games fall into the habit of trying to feature as much of its width as possible, sometimes with the result of them becoming rather shallow. For example, they may employ scenes as a continuously changing list of fetishes, and when they "enumerated" all of them they know, the game ends. So, basically we get an introductory overview of femdom, rather than a story. I know, that this in many cases is done to please as many of the already few femdom fandom as possible, but it results in games with less depth. What I would advocate for is games where the fetishes are in some logical synergy [have some inner logic with the story] with the narrative, and thus explore certain aspects deeper than others. Or at least have the fetishes spread accross multiple chars, and not in the mechanical fashion of girl X = foot fetish, girl Z = facesitting, and girl Y = findom, etc.

I mean the first thing, where yes, you can filter searches and exclude maledom but if you do that, you lose a pretty good chunk of potentially good games since they try to cater to both (its getting rarer and rarer and there is only a few good games that are both, but I really rather not miss one just because I excluded one)

I really do hate that tags are supposed to be "warnings" like...honestly? GTFO about being triggered or whatever over any little content you might not like or disagree with, like if you can't handle the chance, the slight possibility this thing happens that you don't like...you probably aren't supposed to be playing these kinds of games anyway. I feel like tags should...you know....denote actual content. Like if you're going to tag something "femdom" I would like to assume at least 40%+ of the game is centered around that theme. Maybe fudging a little bit if your game has dedicated charcter/route to it specifically.

I mean I do understand, somethings can really "kill a boner" or ruin the enjoyment of a game by something shockingly coming out of nowhere but like...just kinda accept it and move on? especially if its just a one-of thing. I think this website would be far more efficient with tags that actually reflect what you're playing, not "what you may run into that you don't like"

 

[LAKueiJin]

And you keep trying to get your point across. You wanted to quit so adamantly before but when I finally cave in, you keep going. There's some interesting behavioral analysis to be had here. I almost feel like you're doing it just to get me to respond. It's also funny how I'm the virtue signaler lol.

I mean, I really attempted to stay out of this after the first exchanges, as I also have a gender critical perspective but nobody else on the thread really wants to hear this discussion, (these political posts always get ignored by people who are here for the femdom if you look at the backlog...) but I think you made some valuable contributions to the thread early on (when Mina came trolling for example or when you talked about "Hardcore Femdom", "Under Control 1", "Mistresses of the Forest" etc) and even if you hadn't I think it's harsh for you to be asked to just not participate on the thread at all because we disagree politically. (as obviously you also like a lot of femdom games) That's why last time I answered one of your posts I sympathized with Totally Spies being an early fantasy (as it was for me too) and talked about Amoral quest to try to steer the discussion away from the political disagreements. However...

...I gave you the option to continue arguing your point in a PM, because most people are not interested in this subject, and its really not the subject matter of the thread...

And yes, you're right when you say I don't want to go into your DMs. This started here, publicly, and will end here. Let's pretend we're adults. We have fundamentally different points of view, and I accept that. I'm not getting into the actual meat of the discussion anymore. And I'm obviously not trolling.

See, you two exchanged those messages on Thursday! Aseratrix kept inviting you to discuss things in DMs so as not to keep bothering everyone else on the thread with this, but you openly refused, and then kept trying to get the last word in, even, like with this message, 2 days and a couple dozen posts later! Before the previous exchange you also let things rest for a few days and then came back claiming that "Aseratrix started it", and honestly it's fine if you disagree adamantly enough you feel as if you have to answer, (I have quite strongly-held political beliefs too, not because I hold them sacred but especially because I often debated them, constantly challenge them and change them if they don't hold water/stand scrutiny and have pretty strong arguments in favor of the current ones) but why not accept his invitation to do it privately and why keep reigniting the dispute every time after the thread moves on from it?

Hell, I don't have the energy or time for this at the moment, but if you don't mind waiting a couple of days between answers, if you'd prefer that you can debate gender critical feminism and trans rights with me in DMs, (as I never mind a good faith exchange of ideas) but I think a lot of people frequenting this thread would really appreciate it if you don't keep reigniting the flame of that argument whenever it dies down! I'm not asking you to agree to disagree, but could you please just let it rest publicly?

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[Aseratrix]

I mean the first thing, where yes, you can filter searches and exclude maledom but if you do that, you lose a pretty good chunk of potentially good games since they try to cater to both (its getting rarer and rarer and there is only a few good games that are both, but I really rather not miss one just because I excluded one)

I really do hate that tags are supposed to be "warnings" like...honestly? GTFO about being triggered or whatever over any little content you might not like or disagree with, like if you can't handle the chance, the slight possibility this thing happens that you don't like...you probably aren't supposed to be playing these kinds of games anyway. I feel like tags should...you know....denote actual content. Like if you're going to tag something "femdom" I would like to assume at least 40%+ of the game is centered around that theme. Maybe fudging a little bit if your game has dedicated charcter/route to it specifically.

I mean I do understand, somethings can really "kill a boner" or ruin the enjoyment of a game by something shockingly coming out of nowhere but like...just kinda accept it and move on? especially if its just a one-of thing. I think this website would be far more efficient with tags that actually reflect what you're playing, not "what you may run into that you don't like"

Yeah, we should be able to be adults about it, and move on if a game is a "boner-killer" for us, without throwing a tantrum and without trying to shame others in anger for a game not catering for us. I have been waging this uphill battle for a long time, trying to counter-balance naysayers and such. But its a thankless job I never signed up for, and its ultimately ineffective, because for each "Trumbull" disposed of, two others spawn instead. So, I just assume that most people here are kids [biologically or mentally], who shouldn't even be here in the first place, but we can't do anything about it. I do still try to defend my position, but lately I have had the displeasure of having to "fight" more with people within the femdom umbrella, I see special vitriol from those into explicitly "gentle femdom", who rail against what I perceive as really at best medium level, classic femdom as "hateful". Add on top the maledom people, etc., and the illusion of singing kumbaya together is just a mirage.

Me personally, I never go into a maledom or even mixed game's thread and wreak havoc by accusing the dev and those who like it for being spineless degenerates, the mc of the game stupid [while meaning that femdom as such is stupid if you dig deeper] and gasp about how could they like what they like. And then make a dramatic exit. I never understood that.

In reference to my prev comment I would add one more thing: I guess one of the under-utilized, but very potent facilitator of "nuanced charge" is npc personality.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

Not for nothing, I have no idea what this whole discussion is nor do I have any real interest in knowing, I will just say, I and probably many others like me work and deal with a ton of shit on a day to day basis. The reason I come here and we all are here, is because we like a thing. I really enjoy it and everyone here, in theory enjoys it to whatever capacity. This is a place to find things and connect over a common interest. It's supposed to be fun.

If anyone is not having fun or not able to respect how someone else is having their fun...maybe just take a break. Chill out. If you're not here and enjoying yourself, then do a thing that does. I can't speak for everyone, only me really, but I come here because I'm looking for ways to enhance what small free time I have. I haven't even been here much the last few months because fuck tax season. I know how hard it is to sometimes let things go, hell, I am guilty of having weird ass debates and stuff too. That's all the more reason why its important to enjoy and have fun with what little time we have though.

So like...whatever this weird political discussion/fight/debate/etc., just ask yourself if its really how you want to be spending your limited time? I personally turn to this community to find games, exchange info on whats good/isn't good, or even vent over things that are just something we relate to. If you're not having fun or your fun is denying other people their fun...like before, I strongly urge taking a few steps back and evaluating what you're doing with your time.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

Yeah, we should be able to be adults about it, and move on if a game is a "boner-killer" for us, without throwing a tantrum and without trying to shame others in anger for a game not catering for us. I have been waging this uphill battle for a long time, trying to counter-balance naysayers and such. But its a thankless job I never signed up for, and its ultimately ineffective, because for each "Trumbull" disposed of, two others spawn instead. So, I just assume that most people here are kids [biologically or mentally], who shouldn't even be here in the first place, but we can't do anything about it. I do still try to defend my position, but lately I have had the displeasure of having to "fight" more with people within the femdom umbrella, I see special vitriol from those into explicitly "gentle femdom", who rail against what I perceive as really at best medium level, classic femdom as "hateful". Add on top the maledom people, etc., and the illusion of singing kumbaya together is just a mirage.

Me personally, I never go into a maledom or even mixed game's thread and wreak havoc by accusing the dev and those who like it for being spineless degenerates, the mc of the game stupid [while meaning that femdom as such is stupid if you dig deeper] and gasp about how could they like what they like. And then make a dramatic exit. I never understood that.

In reference to my prev comment I would add one more thing: I guess one of the under-utilized, but very potent facilitator of "nuanced charge" is npc personality.

I kind of accepted the whole the majority of users here are probably between 12-22 and have some very strong views on what "ought" to be and can't let people just enjoy what they like so...I mean...Yeah. I do appreciate all the work and what you've done, and as I said above, if you're having some issues over something...take a bit of a break and figure out if its something you're enjoying. I personally think you enjoy a good debate and like to exchange minds and stuff, but it becomes kinda more hostile when people don't expect it and feel the need to be defensive. Just take a break when you need to and come back. You do a lot of great things here for this community, you're really appreciated. So like...don't burn yourself out.

 

[Aseratrix]

I kind of accepted the whole the majority of users here are probably between 12-22 and have some very strong views on what "ought" to be and can't let people just enjoy what they like so...I mean...Yeah. I do appreciate all the work and what you've done, and as I said above, if you're having some issues over something...take a bit of a break and figure out if its something you're enjoying. I personally think you enjoy a good debate and like to exchange minds and stuff, but it becomes kinda more hostile when people don't expect it and feel the need to be defensive. Just take a break when you need to and come back. You do a lot of great things here for this community, you're really appreciated. So like...don't burn yourself out.

Yeah, your advice is absolutely on point. I do came here for fun indeed. And I hope it still can be so.

 

[Aseratrix]

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[Innocience]

completely and off topic of everyone else (as I do), anyone else kinda annoyed you can't filter out maledom because some of more promising games are trying to cater to two groups?

Maledom seems just as meaningless a tag as femdom, so meh? Some tags I just glaze over since they don't tell you much - maledom included.

 

[Nocturne-]

Maledom seems just as meaningless a tag as femdom, so meh? Some tags I just glaze over since they don't tell you much - maledom included.

Most tag are pointless anyway. Patreon Devs will bait people to play a game using tag, they will make one scene with no context and will claim that the game actually have said content. Femdom is victim of this, everytime a big game has femdom tag is always one random footjob scene and nothing more.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

Maledom seems just as meaningless a tag as femdom, so meh? Some tags I just glaze over since they don't tell you much - maledom included.

It's not really meh to me, and its not equal in the slightest. A woman wants a guy to eat her out? Gets the femdom tag. Guy face fucks a girl? no tag yet. Degrades her and uses her until she's fucked silly? Now it gets a maledom tag. Girl gives a guy a footjob and works hard to make sure he is "punished" by giving him huge orgasms? Femdom. Guy rapes a girl and slaps her around? maledom.

The interesting thing is, games that get the maledom tag actually seem to go pretty big on the content, there isn't just a one of scene or so, it usually is consistent. Femdom tag? two lesbian side characters give each other a spanking while the MC watches, and it qualifies.

The site is quite biased in that regard. They will slap a femdom tag on any little time a woman is even slightly assertive but the maledom tag will almost always have content that fits the tag and far more consistent.

 

[Aseratrix]

It's not really meh to me, and its not equal in the slightest. A woman wants a guy to eat her out? Gets the femdom tag. Guy face fucks a girl? no tag yet. Degrades her and uses her until she's fucked silly? Now it gets a maledom tag. Girl gives a guy a footjob and works hard to make sure he is "punished" by giving him huge orgasms? Femdom. Guy rapes a girl and slaps her around? maledom.

The interesting thing is, games that get the maledom tag actually seem to go pretty big on the content, there isn't just a one of scene or so, it usually is consistent. Femdom tag? two lesbian side characters give each other a spanking while the MC watches, and it qualifies.

The site is quite biased in that regard. They will slap a femdom tag on any little time a woman is even slightly assertive but the maledom tag will almost always have content that fits the tag and far more consistent.

Its even worse than that, half the games on this site which would require the maledom tag, does not even feature it, because male domination is so normalized, that a woman used and abused does not even register as maledom. There is a game for example about a princess being collared, used by bums in all sort of demeaning ways, and yet it doesn't even have the maledom tag, instead it has rape, slave, corruption, yada-yada. Yet if it were a guy in the same circumstance being used by females there is no way the femdom tag would be left out. So yeah, I agree, it matters, it matters a lot!

I had to literally involve the dev of for example Earn Your Freedom game to at least put the maledom tag in [besides not being a femdom game at all, refusing to remove the femdom tag].

This list is for the very sake of making the femdom tag less meaningless.

 

[Aseratrix]

Most tag are pointless anyway. Patreon Devs will bait people to play a game using tag, they will make one scene with no context and will claim that the game actually have said content. Femdom is victim of this, everytime a big game has femdom tag is always one random footjob scene and nothing more.

Yeah, hence this list. And yeah again, most very popular games which gave a bazillion tags with femdom thrown in, from a femdom perspective do not even worth trying.

Ps: you are lucky if its a footjob and not a "mean" blowjob. Or even worse, play as an MC sucking dicks, and because there was 1 female char who collects the money from your blowjobs, call it femdom.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

Its even worse than that, half the games on this site which would require the maledom tag, does not even feature it, because male domination is so normalized, that a woman used and abused does not even register as maledom. There is a game for example about a princess being collared, used by bums in all sort of demeaning ways, and yet it doesn't even have the maledom tag, instead it has rape, slave, corruption, yada-yada. Yet if it were a guy in the same circumstance being used by females there is no way the femdom tag would be left out. So yeah, I agree, it matters, it matters a lot!

This list is for the very sake of making the femdom tag less meaningless.

I mean, that's what I was alluding to, but you said it correctly. A lot of things that would be femdom if the genders were reversed is just normal for "vanilla" games, but extreme stuff that warrants the maledom tag also tends to be more consistent and not just for 1-2 scenes but a game dedicated to being "the alpha male", which honestly to me just equates to "how big of an asshole do I get to be to everyone?" which is why its something I rather skip. I can enjoy non-femdom games, but I absolutely hate having to just play an asshole. Assholes/idiots, two things I really hate playing as.

 

[Innocience]

It's not really meh to me, and its not equal in the slightest.

I can tell from your agitated response.
The femdom tag being loosely thrown around I was aware of; not the maledom tag. Good to know. I haven't used specific tags to filter stuff out yet (stuff I hate just gets skipped or deleted after) so I wasn't aware of that being a severe issue.

I don't see a site wide solution for the issue in the short term - you'd have to fix the bias itself with stronger tag moderation or hope the average people visiting the site doing the tagging even the scales (good luck with that).
I'm sure most people aren't even clear or aware of the site's definition of broad terms like femdom / maledom. Add to that language barriers it all gets muddy.
More specific tags might help. Or someone could try to pitch something like a tag 'level' system based on severity or focus of the game on the specific tag.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

I can tell from your agitated response.
The femdom tag being loosely thrown around I was aware of; not the maledom tag. Good to know. I haven't used specific tags to filter stuff out yet (stuff I hate just gets skipped or deleted after) so I wasn't aware of that being a severe issue.

I don't see a site wide solution for the issue in the short term - you'd have to fix the bias itself with stronger tag moderation or hope the average people visiting the site doing the tagging even the scales (good luck with that).
I'm sure most people aren't even clear or aware of the site's definition of broad terms like femdom / maledom. Add to that language barriers it all gets muddy.
More specific tags might help. Or someone could try to pitch something like a tag 'level' system based on severity or focus of the game on the specific tag.

my favorite misunderstanding so far is that people were tagging games "female domination" because they felt that meant the females get dominated. And believe me, I've tried to argue about overhauling the tag system on the site with the admins a lot. They said they won't even touch how tags are defined and added until they finish their overhaul of the site....you can see how that's going.

 

[Nocturne-]

I can tell from your agitated response.
The femdom tag being loosely thrown around I was aware of; not the maledom tag. Good to know. I haven't used specific tags to filter stuff out yet (stuff I hate just gets skipped or deleted after) so I wasn't aware of that being a severe issue.

I don't see a site wide solution for the issue in the short term - you'd have to fix the bias itself with stronger tag moderation or hope the average people visiting the site doing the tagging even the scales (good luck with that).
I'm sure most people aren't even clear or aware of the site's definition of broad terms like femdom / maledom. Add to that language barriers it all gets muddy.
More specific tags might help. Or someone could try to pitch something like a tag 'level' system based on severity or focus of the game on the specific tag.

In my view tags should be only place if the said content are an actual route on the game, has a bunch of content or is the game main focus.

 

[Aseratrix]

In my view tags should be only place if the said content are an actual route on the game, has a bunch of content or is the game main focus.

It could be made like this: two tier tags!

1. tier one [main tags]: just like you said the main paths and themes of the game
2. tier two [additional ones]: tags which describe the first ones in more detail and/or ones which describe secondary, small parts of the conent

Of course some devs think that not being straight forward may bring more "customers". I think they're mostly wrong, because most people already know what they like and want.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

It could be made like this: two tier tags!

1. tier one [main tags]: just like you said the main paths and themes of the game
2. tier two [additional ones]: tags which describe the first ones in more detail and/or ones which describe secondary, small parts of the conent

Of course some devs think that not being straight forward may bring more "customers". I think they're mostly wrong, because most people already know what they like and want.

or you could just color code the tags. green= 80%+ relevant to game, yellow=40%+ of game red=Has scenes that some people might find too hard to handle, it will ruin your day if you see it, oh please heaven forbid the woman sits on your face without you actually making the first move, red is very bad will make you cry and enraged at how unfair the situation is, oh the humanity, your super-alpha-wet-dream-power-fantasy-character-has-to-endure-a-one-time-scene-where-he-isn't-completely-in-control-but-actually-he-can-be-if-you-just-pick-any-of-the-other-options-but-the-scene-exists-so-you'll-definitely-feel-attacked

 

[Innocience]

In my view tags should be only place if the said content are an actual route on the game, has a bunch of content or is the game main focus.

I agree, but it's hard to put those vague statements into practice. What constitutes as "bunch"? Is it relative to game length? If so, what happens on updates when the total game length changes but the specific content doesn't increase? What constitutes as a route? A single love interest with a short quest compared to every other love interest?
The same issue also arises when we start debating about what content a tag entails. This thread alone had tons of debate on what constitutes as femdom. Not all ended positively.

1. tier one [main tags]: just like you said the main paths and themes of the game
2. tier two [additional ones]: tags which describe the first ones in more detail and/or ones which describe secondary, small parts of the conent

This would be my prefered solution as well with clear examples of what is or isn't part of the tag.

 

[Deleted member 1571565]

I might be projecting a little