marz08

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I'm a massive fan of this game and will back the dev all the way when it comes to people complaining. But I have to admit there was a lack of update to this update (which we already knew about and I wasn't expecting much more). I think I would have preferred to wait a bit longer and get a more substantial update. Still one of my favourite games though, please don't lose heart with the project!
 

JorogrArt

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Cheers.
Shame there is no raunch added for this update though. All these monthly updates are a wait as it is, so when it takes even longer with some games, its a letdown when they don't add any proper sex content. Usually a sign of burnout or no idea to progress.
I view the development of this game like that old Bartender game where you have four counters and you can sling beverages down to thirsty bar patrons, but the four counters represent like, Story, Puzzles, Humor, and Sex... Trying to juggle all of those is impossible in a single update, especially for one person. The previous update was carried by the shower scene (imo) and the next update will be carried by a new gallery scene (because I perceive the thirsty patrons on that counter to be closest, haha).

Shame there is no raunch added for this update though. All these monthly updates are a wait as it is, so when it takes even longer with some games, its a letdown when they don't add any proper sex content. Usually a sign of burnout or no idea to progress.
I will confess that I had a lot of difficulty piecing Aunt Charlotte's story together, even though I had started with an outline. Writing dialogue, making adventure game puzzles, and writing a story are completely different skills.

Just talk to her, explore the options... play chess, go to sleep, repeat

There is no actual sex though, best to skip until next update
Not bad advice, honestly, if you're primarily interested in the sex. I imagine most people are, but you have to build the flagpole before you can hang a flag on it. This update primarily gets some exposition out of the way and fills in some nostalgic, era-appropriate flair. Not my favorite update so far, but we move the ball forward by moving the ball forward. All I can do is do better on the next one.
 
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I will confess that I had a lot of difficulty piecing Aunt Charlotte's story together, even though I had started with an outline. Writing dialogue, making adventure game puzzles, and writing a story are completely different skills.
My take on this would be to keep on manipulating the aunt into sex with the help of the bible and its interpretations.
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Then create a situation where the sexual acts appear more coerced, with Charlotte being torn between the triangle of

< must help him and obey >< must stay true to my old celibate identity >< actually learn to embrace sex / sexual submission >

So her growing doubts make her initially insecure about repulsing advances, then she pretends to not enjoy it, though eventually ends up depraved where she even secretly enjoys anal (which is still explicitly condemned for all abrahamic believers)
 

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My take on this would be to keep on manipulating the aunt into sex with the help of the bible and its interpretations.
Since the game is set in the 80s it might be in setting to utilize the satanic panic hysteria as part of the story telling and plot. I'm just not sure how into the weeds that would take take this porn game
 
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JorogrArt

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My take on this would be to keep on manipulating the aunt into sex with the help of the bible and its interpretations.
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Then create a situation where the sexual acts appear more coerced, with Charlotte being torn between the triangle of

< must help him and obey >< must stay true to my old celibate identity >< actually learn to embrace sex / sexual submission >

So her growing doubts make her initially insecure about repulsing advances, then she pretends to not enjoy it, though eventually ends up depraved where she even secretly enjoys anal (which is still explicitly condemned for all abrahamic believers)
Most of this is pretty close to what I have in mind.

Charlotte is coded as some kind of weird Pentecostal variant where the emphasis is on biblical literalism (although typically selectively applied), personal relationship with jesus, spiritual gifts (prophecy, visions, casting out "demons" etc). Celibacy is not typically a feature of Pentecostalism, but you could very easily justify it if you emphasize Paul's letters and throw out the entire Old Testament, which many Protestants do, except when they want to shit on certain lifestyles that aren't to their liking.

I get what you're saying. The things you list could be use as arguments against her to give a rationalization or sow the seeds of doubt in her and give a rationalization for why she ultimately "partakes of the forbidden fruit." I didn't think of the Adam and Eve angle, but I did think of Lot and his daughters.


Since the game is set in the 80s it might be in setting to utilize the satanic panic hysteria as part of the story telling and plot. I'm just not sure how into the weeds that would take take this porn game
This is touched on a little bit in two scenes: the scene where Charlotte plays Brooke's records backwards looking for backwards satanic messages, and in the scene where Charlotte is found snooping in MC's bedroom. The 80's was a wild time for religion vs. media.

Getting into the weeds is one of the challenges of writing this (Charlotte's) story. I could end up writing an exhaustive takedown of religion if I'm not careful, but... as you rightfully point out, this is supposed to be a porn game. These things can be touched on to give a nod to the era but... There's a reason Charlotte stops quoting Bible verses after that first quest. I will say that later on, we will get a televised, tearful Jimmy Swaggart-style public apology from Charlotte's favorite TV evangelist because of a sex scandal. :LOL:
 
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helljack

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Having it played it, what I can say is what's there is pretty good, and well written.

I do feel though it would be better to have us play different games with Aunt Charlotte, instead of just repeating chess a bunch. Probably too late to ask that since you made a bunch of different chessboard assets.

I'll save you the criticism that there isn't anything sex wise in this one. If you had have hit your original deadline to do this, it would have been fine. You're well aware of that.

I will say though, and again I think you're aware of this, if your deadlines do have a tendency to slip, you should stick to updates that always have spank bank/sexy content. People are more receptive to delayed updates that still "deliver the goods".

Oh, and you should probably update the thread as well. You'll definitely want all that extra feedback that will just be "WHERE SEX?!" over and over again. :ROFLMAO:
 
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JorogrArt

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Having it played it, what I can say is what's there is pretty good, and well written.

I do feel though it would be better to have us play different games with Aunt Charlotte, instead of just repeating chess a bunch. Probably too late to ask that since you made a bunch of different chessboard assets.
The "games" set piece w/Charlotte is meant to mirror Aunt Irene's wine mechanic where you get different effects from different games, with Go Fish being the Low-IQ, Rosé equivalent and Chess being the Zinfandel equivalent, except you get a "debriefing/defrag" over some event that recently happened and MC gets more "intel" to work with.

Unfortunately, there won't be a game you can select that will cause Charlotte to just randomly and suddenly start sucking MC's dick (because Charlotte is the opposite of an unapologetically debauched libertine). However, an old-timey and archaic card game called Old Maid will eventually make an appearance, which will have a very specific effect on Aunt Charlotte.

I'll save you the criticism that there isn't anything sex wise in this one. If you had have hit your original deadline to do this, it would have been fine. You're well aware of that.
I clearly suck at giving target dates, so I'm going to stop attempting them. I see it's already becoming a meme in the thread :sneaky:. I believe that "when it's done" is an acceptable policy given that the game is free and that I keep my subscriber tier prices low. Ultimately, I'm beholden to demonstrating progress to my subscribers.

I will say though, and again I think you're aware of this, if your deadlines do have a tendency to slip, you should stick to updates that always have spank bank/sexy content. People are more receptive to delayed updates that still "deliver the goods".
Completely agree.

The previous update slipped, but was carried (imo) by the shower scene. I stated in an earlier post that the experience of developing this game is like that old Bartender arcade game where you sling beverages down one of four counters to thirsty bar patrons--the four counters representing "Story", "Puzzles", "Humor" and "Sex" for this analogy. It's very difficult to service each of these counters in a single update.

I agree that the "Sex" counter should the one that is most important and the primary lens through which "update readiness" should be should be judged.

Cheers!
 

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This is touched on a little bit in two scenes: the scene where Charlotte plays Brooke's records backwards looking for backwards satanic messages, and in the scene where Charlotte is found snooping in MC's bedroom. The 80's was a wild time for religion vs. media.

Getting into the weeds is one of the challenges of writing this (Charlotte's) story. I could end up writing an exhaustive takedown of religion if I'm not careful, but... as you rightfully point out, this is supposed to be a porn game. These things can be touched on to give a nod to the era but... There's a reason Charlotte stops quoting Bible verses after that first quest. I will say that later on, we will get a televised, tearful Jimmy Swaggart-style public apology from Charlotte's favorite TV evangelist because of a sex scandal. :LOL:
might be room for a 1e DnD gag with the DM and/or Player handbook if you're wanting keep vibe going. but I suspect you have a lot of that route already mapped out
 
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My take on this would be to keep on manipulating the aunt into sex with the help of the bible and its interpretations.
For example:

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Then create a situation where the sexual acts appear more coerced, with Charlotte being torn between the triangle of

< must help him and obey >< must stay true to my old celibate identity >< actually learn to embrace sex / sexual submission >

So her growing doubts make her initially insecure about repulsing advances, then she pretends to not enjoy it, though eventually ends up depraved where she even secretly enjoys anal (which is still explicitly condemned for all abrahamic believers)
Genuinely interesting theological analysis over a 80's themed porn game... I don't even know what to say, have a like good sir.
 
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Pagdor

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Fun little update. It's setting up the Aunt and developing her plot line nicely. The Strip poker was a fun nod to past games as well. I'm looking forward to the next update. That's not a subtle rush on the creator, that's just a statement.
All creative work takes time, and the more time a creator has the better the results.
So far this game has been a lot of fun, and I'm genuinely looking forward to more.
 

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So, I read there are no sex scenes in this update, not sure if true but I will download it anyway, really like this game, this just like other games in development will be amazing once they are finished, I love all the tease between the family members, that's almost as hot as the sex, I can't support with money but I will support this game this way.
 
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