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I'm gonna sound like a normie but I was definitely looking forward to the foot massage then fj scene and was disappointed that it's only text so far. Or to have a better look on them when Meredith sits on the chest before the bed.
I've made a couple of attempts at a designing a foot job scene with Meredith on the couch and I've hated each attempt for one reason or another, often angles. I'm not a foot guy myself, but I think the way to go with a foot job scene is POV. We see MC's junk and her foot can come over top of it, pushing it down against his stomach, rubbing her soft, lotion-covered soles against the underside. Framed just above her legs, we see her face and her delighted reactions as she makes MC squirm.

JorogrArt btw, you should update the first post to add the 3.0.2 version, it's still at 3.0.1.
Good point. I thought I posted links to 0.3.0.2 a few pages back, if not I'll have to make a new post.
 
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JorogrArt btw, you should update the first post to add the 3.0.2 version, it's still at 3.0.1.
Apparently, I never posted the links for v0.3.0.2, which was released a few weeks ago.

Five of a Kind HOTFIX v0.3.0.2
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Notes
  • This update is mostly minor bug fixes and a couple of minor improvements. If you've finished v0.3.0.1 or v0.3.0.0, it is not worth replaying.
  • This hotfix will NOT break save games from v0.3.0.0 or v0.3.0.1. However, saves from v0.2.x or before will not work because v0.3.x rewrote Meredith's story.

Improvements
  • Spank Bank now fits all 12 scenes on a single page--no need to scroll
  • Brooke's schedule has been modified so that Jasmine is available in the Afternoon and Evening. All of the fan service options (Brooke showering, Brooke on the phone, and Brooke changing) have been isolated to Night time slot.
  • Improved Brooke's journal hints

Bug Fixes
  • Tweaked the delays in animations when taking wine from the dining room cabinet to (hopefully) eliminate the forever hourglass bug
  • Aunt Irene's general hotspot now accepts the Chablis and Zinfandel. (Before, you had to click on her head or chest)
  • Fixed a couple of misattributed lines when selling stuff to Scott and during Brooke's grade fix quest.
  • Cracking the door to Meredith's room no longer has MC remarking "Whoa!" if she's not there.
  • Removed an unfinished "pillow fight" placeholder graphic
  • Shortened the amount of time Scott spends trying (and failing) to play the guitar.
 

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Holy fuck, Scott actually plays fucking Rush on the guitar, this is the greatest game on F95zone.
And the music playing in the bedroom reminds me so much of Phantasmagoria, its crazy, this dev knows his stuff.
 
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Holy fuck, Scott actually plays fucking Rush on the guitar, this is the greatest game on F95zone.

And the music playing in the bedroom reminds me so much of Phantasmagoria, its crazy, this dev knows his stuff.
That's actually me playing that, unamplified. I hadn't picked up a guitar in six months when I recorded that, which is fitting since Scott is NOT supposed to be a very good guitar player lol. :cool:

If you mean the music in MC's bedroom, I was pretty sure the main piano riff was something I lift-- err "inspired" by an old Sierra game but I never could figure out what it was. I know I played Phantasmagoria, but I never got very far.

Edit: Out of curiosity, I put on the Phantasmagoria soundtrack and I do hear some similarities here and there. The set of instruments I used for MC bedroom theme (piano, shakers, pizzicato strings, harp, synth bass, and triangle(?)) are highly represented in Phantasmagoria game's soundtrack, which might be why it sounds "in the style of." I made about 10 original pieces of music for the game and all of them are some kind of reference to something, often old adventure game OST.
 
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That's actually me playing that, unamplified. I hadn't picked up a guitar in six months when I recorded that, which is fitting since Scott is NOT supposed to be a very good guitar player lol. :cool:

If you mean the music in MC's bedroom, I was pretty sure the main piano riff was something I lift-- err "inspired" by an old Sierra game but I never could figure out what it was. I know I played Phantasmagoria, but I never got very far.

Edit: Out of curiosity, I put on the Phantasmagoria soundtrack and I do hear some similarities here and there. The set of instruments I used for MC bedroom theme (piano, shakers, pizzicato strings, harp, synth bass, and triangle(?)) are highly represented in Phantasmagoria game's soundtrack, which might be why it sounds "in the style of." I made about 10 original pieces of music for the game and all of them are some kind of reference to something, often old adventure game OST.

Damn you actually wrote the whole thing.
It turns out I might've been thinking about phantasmagoria 2 (spoony anyone?), but yeah it also does also kinda remind me of Gabriel Knight, and even Ripper.

I'm really really not just saying this, it's extremely impressive how you managed to make the gameplay, and the feel of the game, wholly original in terms of the typical structure, that one can find on this page, and the moment I have a tight overview of my economy, this is definitely a title I'm gonna support.
Kinda crazy I didn't pick up this game before.

A few criticisms/thoughts:

You kinda make fun of it yourself with the fridge moment, but it does kinda get a little iffy when stuff happens at the edge of the screen, while a lot of the locales don't run into it, it's the only 'mechanical' part of the game that sometimes annoyed me.
There were a few moments, namely in the kitchen, the garage and the bathroom, where the limited view and also the perspective kinda messed with me.

There's sort of a big difference in how well a 'sex scene' is animated, and that might have something to do with how comfortable you are with certain perspectives, I'd say they're all at least a 6/10, it's obviously all subjective. But the two POV scenes with the mom, namely the blowjob on the bed and the boobjob, are really really well animated and you show the room from a different perspective, which is very well done, so the scenes that aren't on this level stick out. Generally it's really good, because you stay committed to the artstyle, but Meredith looks a lot better in the titjob scene, than she does when you hug her in the kitchen for example, and in the future this difference in quality might get jarring.

The puzzles are too logical, you need at least one or two puzzles, that function on adventure game logic, maybe even have some 4th wall breaking memes about it. They can be hard enough, that some players have to resort to a walkthrough, especially considering that most people are just gonna use a walkthrough the moment it gets a little hard anyway.
One of the greatest things about oldschool adventure games, was that they had puzzles that were just plain illogical and stupid, but you somehow felt kinda smart when you figured it out. Jasmine/MC kinda meme about it, when you tell her the solution to the puzzle. I feel that your puzzles are a bit too easy, maybe I'm biased, because I will click on everything a billion times and pick everything up, but you know.
For example in Phantasmagoria 2, when you can't find your keys, but somehow picking up your rat, putting it under the couch and then using the granola bar on the rat, will give you both the keys and the rat back. (One of the first puzzles in the game).

lastly I really hope you stay structured (unlike this post), and focus on finishing the main story, before you add a bunch of different locales and features to the game, because this has good writing (for a porn game), it relies on the right clichés, and you actually manage to pull off the genre really well. A lot of games (not gonna mention names), are inspired by the genre, but because they lack the soundtrack, the character walking around, and the dry humour, come off as soulless, and I end up shamefully playing them through to jerk it off, while not really getting engaged in the game. This game makes me want to play it, and the porn comes as a bonus. So kudos.
 

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A few criticisms/thoughts:

You kinda make fun of it yourself with the fridge moment, but it does kinda get a little iffy when stuff happens at the edge of the screen, while a lot of the locales don't run into it, it's the only 'mechanical' part of the game that sometimes annoyed me.
There were a few moments, namely in the kitchen, the garage and the bathroom, where the limited view and also the perspective kinda messed with me.
There are a few backgrounds that were made before I knew I was going to use Unity and be able to have sprites walking around. The kitchen background is the most problematic of the ones you mention. At the time I made it, I envisioned it as a closeup for H scenes to happen, particularly centered around that big island in the middle. If I had known I was going to have sprites walking around in it, I would have drawn it very differently. Also, having a kitchen without a refrigerator in view is a big-time regret and a self-own. It's possible the kitchen will get redrawn in the distant future, but for now I feel my bandwidth needs to be spent on new content and gameplay improvements more than anything else.

I've not heard anyone complain about the "pinhole" overlay aspect of the bathroom and toolshed before. In both cases, I did the pinhole overlay perspective for a (perhaps bullshit) artistic reason. The toolshed is the easiest to try to explain. MC is very "indoorsy" and most of what he knows at the start of the game is computers and video games. Walking MC into a toolshed where there are shovels, garden hoses, and outdoor grills is (to him) like walking into an unfamiliar alien world. That's why the music is the way it is in there and why every Talk To message on every tool in there reveals to us that he doesn't do a lot of outdoor work. You're supposed to feel off-kilter in the toolshed because MC is out of his element.

There's sort of a big difference in how well a 'sex scene' is animated, and that might have something to do with how comfortable you are with certain perspectives, I'd say they're all at least a 6/10, it's obviously all subjective. But the two POV scenes with the mom, namely the blowjob on the bed and the boobjob, are really really well animated and you show the room from a different perspective, which is very well done, so the scenes that aren't on this level stick out. Generally it's really good, because you stay committed to the artstyle, but Meredith looks a lot better in the titjob scene, than she does when you hug her in the kitchen for example, and in the future this difference in quality might get jarring.
It's interesting that you view the bed blowjob scene as one of the best animated. I believe it needs some improvement. I might not disagree with you that it's well animated in the sense that the movements are fluid in that scene, but the graphics... The two main problems in that scene (for me) are that a) her hair and head look weird and b) Meredith obviously has a great rack and we should be able to see it... for inspiration for scientific purposes..

Meredith's sprite rig is in dire need of improvement. I kind of view the sprites as a vehicle to transport characters between scenes. If you ever see me use sprite rigs for a romantic or erotic moment, I'm using it as a placeholder. That hugging action in the kitchen, for example, will eventually become a closeup scene. I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

I'd be interested to know your "top 5 most in need of improvement" scenes. It sounds like you generally enjoy the POV scenes more than the 3rd person scenes. I will say MC's cumshots work much better in POV scenes than 3rd person.

The puzzles are too logical, you need at least one or two puzzles, that function on adventure game logic, maybe even have some 4th wall breaking memes about it. They can be hard enough, that some players have to resort to a walkthrough, especially considering that most people are just gonna use a walkthrough the moment it gets a little hard anyway.
One of the greatest things about oldschool adventure games, was that they had puzzles that were just plain illogical and stupid, but you somehow felt kinda smart when you figured it out. Jasmine/MC kinda meme about it, when you tell her the solution to the puzzle. I feel that your puzzles are a bit too easy, maybe I'm biased, because I will click on everything a billion times and pick everything up, but you know.
I hear you and I'm sympathetic to that point of view. However, I would bet a lot of money that if I polled on whether the puzzles should be easier or harder, easier would win in a landslide.

My current understanding of the player base is that there are three types of players:
  • Players who just want to power through the game with a walkthrough.
  • Players who want to skip past all the dialogue (thereby skipping any hints) and then open up the journal expecting it to explicitly tell them what to do next.
  • Those who don't need the journal much at all and enjoy exploring the game and click on everything and ultimately breeze through the game because there's enough hints nudging you in the right direction to advance.
Designing clever adventure game puzzles takes time and I feel it's the most underappreciated aspect of the game, even if it's done well. Brooke's two main quests, the insult quest and the fix her grades quest really service the adventure game puzzle and humor/nostalgia itches really well, but the erotic content that *should* accompany those quests suffered (imo). This past update overcorrected and leaned more into sex content and gameplay improvements, but I think the puzzles and humor (imo) weren't as good as Brooke's update.

lastly I really hope you stay structured (unlike this post), and focus on finishing the main story, before you add a bunch of different locales and features to the game, because this has good writing (for a porn game), it relies on the right clichés, and you actually manage to pull off the genre really well. A lot of games (not gonna mention names), are inspired by the genre, but because they lack the soundtrack, the character walking around, and the dry humour, come off as soulless, and I end up shamefully playing them through to jerk it off, while not really getting engaged in the game. This game makes me want to play it, and the porn comes as a bonus. So kudos.
On my SubscribeStar page (plug plug), I periodically provide a roadmap for my vision for the game's future. Assuming by "main story" you mean Meredith's route, then yeah. She is the breakout star and will be prioritized for the foreseeable future.

Thank you for the wonderful comment and thoughtful, constructive criticism. If you feel like doing so, you sound like someone who could leave a thoughtful, constructive review of the game. Cheers!
 
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There is a "bonus" vaginal sex scene with Meredith (w/creampie & possible pregnancy) that is unlocked by completing her available content, so I would say the answer to the original question is "Yes."
True, I stand corrected. There's still way to get there storywise, tough (and I can't wait to find out how and when we'll get there ;) )
 
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new post here

POLL: Side Characters (Aunt Irene and Aunt Charlotte
 

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I am also repulsed by the idea of screwing my own mom. Fortunately, Meredith looks nothing like her.

I've heard this complaint maybe a handful of times and I guess I don't spend much time thinking about how others will perceive the game who the game isn't specifically targeted at. My assumption has been that players will only come across this game and click on it if they're looking for "family style" content.

I'm not opposed to the idea of putting in an OPTION like you describe (it would default to mom/sis), but I would need to be shown that such an option has a certain level of demand, otherwise I'm spending a few days or more on something that could potentially only be used by like five people.

It would be amusing for someone to play through the game with Meredith as "landlady" and then she suddenly tells MC that he's "much bigger than his father." It sort of becomes a whole different kind of game. :ROFLMAO:


There are between 2–10 sex scenes, depending on how you define "sex scene."
Don't Listen to this guy, I am not and probably 99 percent of the people who like Mom stuff aren't interested in their own mothers, it is just a kink that I find hot. I would never and HAVE NEVER wanted to sleep with my mom in the same way that people who like to watch batman jump off of buildings and fist fight 7 armed gunman in an alley wouldn't want to do that in real life either. It is just a fantasy and one of the reasons I pledged to your Subscribestar.
 

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Don't Listen to this guy, I am not and probably 99 percent of the people who like Mom stuff aren't interested in their own mothers, it is just a kink that I find hot. I would never and HAVE NEVER wanted to sleep with my mom in the same way that people who like to watch batman jump off of buildings and fist fight 7 armed gunman in an alley wouldn't want to do that in real life either. It is just a fantasy and one of the reasons I pledged to your Subscribestar.
Thank you for the sub! Yeah, I'm sure you are correct. I've spent a little bit of time thinking about the appeal of this fetish and I think for me, the appeal seems to be... taking *a* hot mom and her son and revving up both of their engines and ratcheting up the horniness/loneliness with both of them and seeing what happens. So, from my perspective, it's perhaps a voyeuristic thing.

When new update release?
Next update will be a mini-update (v0.3.5? rather than v0.4.0)

Officially: When it's done.
Unofficially: Hopefully sometime in mid-to-late September.

What it will have?

New Content:
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Gameplay/Engine Improvements (All of which I've completed):
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