NekoMouse

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I'm actually surprised a site like steam allows incomplete games which can become abandoned on its site in the first place.

To me, steam is like Harvard. The reason it's so hard to get into Harvard is because they don't want to be known as a school with a high failure/dropout rate.

Not good for the reputation. This is true for Harvard and for steam.
Steam as an exclusive club sort of died when Steam Greenlight was born to let in quality games voted on by the community. At first it seemed like a good idea, but just like getting that little blue check mark on Twitter, people began to game the system and being Greenlit meant less and less. Rather than commit resources to curating Steam Greenlight, Steam decided to open the floodgates and pretty much any game can now get on the platform. There's pros and cons, but I think Steam saw the writing on the wall that if they didn't open their platform to most games, someone else was going to do it. Also, I wouldn't be surprised with Steam's flat corporate structure, that their decision was because no one wanted to be responsible for taming the Steam Greenlight program. It was a great program in the beginning to highlight games with potential, but by the end of it people employed bots, social media campaigns, giveaways, and more to be let on the platform despite their game being awful.
 

midn8t

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Steam as an exclusive club sort of died when Steam Greenlight was born to let in quality games voted on by the community. At first it seemed like a good idea, but just like getting that little blue check mark on Twitter, people began to game the system and being Greenlit meant less and less. Rather than commit resources to curating Steam Greenlight, Steam decided to open the floodgates and pretty much any game can now get on the platform. There's pros and cons, but I think Steam saw the writing on the wall that if they didn't open their platform to most games, someone else was going to do it. Also, I wouldn't be surprised with Steam's flat corporate structure, that their decision was because no one wanted to be responsible for taming the Steam Greenlight program. It was a great program in the beginning to highlight games with potential, but by the end of it people employed bots, social media campaigns, giveaways, and more to be let on the platform despite their game being awful.
well, when you look at this post and the name of the developer for patron its same guy who owns the steam verison, there quit few people on patron who have released their games on steam then on patron and stopped support the steam product if thats what your claim in way for this game anyways there also people who put there game on steam and never release it just use it as market for their patron accounts.

developer making that slaves of Rome or whatever has been doing last thing for last couple of years using steam as a marketing to get people sign up on patron

but I do think biggest issue with steam is when people sell product on steam and then only update their patron members which is weird because you do not have to sell game on steam you can put a subscription on it just like u do on patron.

but with flesh cult thing with steam version i guess you're paying workshop access for mods and they do have some user mods on there.
 
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midn8t

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The author hasn't updated the Steam version for over half a year now.
I don't understand what the author is thinking.
I used to sponsor this game back on offbeatr before it was shut down. In the end the author didn't even deliver on what he promised when collecting the money.
After that he sold the same unfinished game to Steam. But does not update it, counting on donations.
All this is only possible because there are almost no games in this setting.
on steam he said that game was finished, and he was going work on a diff project game so he add mod support workshop and left it to community guess he keep collecting patron dollars for it and put something out for them.

I contacted the developer on steam is same developer on patron I contacted him about this on steam but never got a reply.

I stated in my comment above and ill state agin I do not understand why devlopers chose to release there games on steam for crape amount of dollars and then decide to keep working on patron becuase they get monthly

Steam offers ability for games to go subscription service instead of retail.

so, if you want subscriptions to game why not just post the game on steam as subscription service that has same price as patron you can even have diff levels of subscription services offered like EA and origin went with for their games on steam or even other MMO games offer.

other thing is if your developer steam offers you more protection copy right why then patron does, so I do not really fully understand the view of trying to rip off steam side and only support patron side or trying to just use it for advertising or just underselling value your game on steam then having not the ability to support it due to that.

I mean you do not have to go on steam and sell game for dollar nore do you have to sell game for retail could ask montyly yearly daily can have diff levels and you post up diff version for download based on those diff levels everything patron dose steam also does with nice copy protection

I get what you are saying Slilo with the donations and stuff hence patron I just dont see why he only ask for monies subscription services on patron when he also could had it on steam doing same thing.

seems be common thing with developers some reason is what i mean and I just don't get why ur only hurting ur own revenue source
 
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huehu3hue

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I'm actually surprised a site like steam allows incomplete games which can become abandoned on its site in the first place.

To me, steam is like Harvard. The reason it's so hard to get into Harvard is because they don't want to be known as a school with a high failure/dropout rate.

Not good for the reputation. This is true for Harvard and for steam.
Bruh you using the same Steam as the rest of mankind or didnt you update the client on a perma offline pc for the last 10 or so years?

First they added Early Access, and with it came a floodwave of unfinished and abandoned games. Then they changed what youve got to do to get your "game" on Steam. Pay 100$. Yes. You didnt misread that. There is a fee of 100 bucks, thats it, then your game is in, and you even get that 100 bucks back if the game makes over 1000 USD revenue for Valve. Since then Steam has been buried under a shitflood of assetflips and card farm games, you just rarely get to see them if you only ever look at the front page and your personal recommends. This site literally has more curation than Steam. And Kickstarted probably has more successful projects that met their financial goal. Some Harvad that is. Pretty much their last taboo fell when they opened up to porn games.
 
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Bruh you using the same Steam as the rest of mankind or didnt you update the client on a perma offline pc for the last 10 or so years?

First they added Early Access, and with it came a floodwave of unfinished and abandoned games. Then they changed what youve got to do to get your "game" on Steam. Pay 100$. Yes. You didnt misread that. There is a fee of 100 bucks, thats it, then your game is in, and you even get that 100 bucks back if the game makes over 1000 USD revenue for Valve. Since then Steam has been buried under a shitflood of assetflips and card farm games, you just rarely get to see them if you only ever look at the front page and your personal recommends. This site literally has more curation than Steam. And Kickstarted probably has more successful projects that met their financial goal. Some Harvad that is. Pretty much their last taboo fell when they opened up to porn games.
lol to be honest I don't use steam. I check the message boards for help for the game on PS4/5 but if I play PC, I use GOG. I like the no DRM as the games feel like mine and not leased.

Kickstarter works as if it doesn't pick up, you get your money back. Doesn't seem to be the case for patreon. if you donate and the project is abandoned, you are out of X dollars. I'm glad people donate but as someone who won't take risks(I gambled $20 on slots with the intention of losing it all. That was it) I can't use patreon.

EDIT: I didn't realize how many people replied to my comment when I made my original reply. I had to mention WHY I came off as an idiot.

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Avaron1974

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I'm actually surprised a site like steam allows incomplete games which can become abandoned on its site in the first place.

To me, steam is like Harvard. The reason it's so hard to get into Harvard is because they don't want to be known as a school with a high failure/dropout rate.

Not good for the reputation. This is true for Harvard and for steam.
Steam had Early Access games on their site for years now. Basically dev post games in development and you buy them and report bugs. You basically pay them to alpha test their game.

A lot of those get abandoned.

Since they got rid of Greenlight they just made devs pay a small fee to post their game and that's it.

The amount of shitty asset flips went through the roof.

Steam has no quality control. Even when it comes to adult games they don't check the quality they only check to see if they pass. As long as you don't have any underage looking girls or schools in your game you should be okay.

Steam hasn't cared for it's reputation for close to a decade now. They are a multi billion dollar business and the biggest online game store.
 

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Sooo, let us talk about, you know, the actual game this topic is about >_>.

According to Patreon the latest version is 1.26 (so 5 versions ahead of here). He intends to release the new version (1.27) this month. Here is what has been done so far in it:

  • The enhanced lair descriptions are complete for all characters now.
  • A new piece of encounter music for glam-type characters.
  • Got started on improving the concubine upgrade trees. Adding more of the cool stuff that the player character gets. I also intend to do some more in-depth work to put masculine concubines on a more even footing with feminine ones.
 
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