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Pretty sure the hood futa only attacks you after sunset, though.

She can also be avoided by taking the taxi instead of walking. Even with a beginner character, you can avoid her by going to the back alleys when the sun is still up, skip time there until you can whore yourself out, and then keep going with the prostitution thing until you've got enough money for a few taxi rides.

And once you've done enough muscle training to reach muscle lvl. 2, you're strong enough to face the hood futa one on one anyway
Enemies cycle through so you dont face the same people all the time, I added more enemies for next update and now most of them don't actually rob you so it's not as hard. Also added this boss fight with this girl who is now the biggest in the game, level 6 muscle, gave the bitch a second stage too (elden ring eat my ass, I suck really bad and got destroyed by everyone). I don't even know if she's possible to beat without cheats rn lmao, will see once I get some frens to beta test.

Also yeah, you can avoid enemies with public transport, the enemies show up randomly when walking, time of day makes no difference. Though the chance to run into enemies depends on where you're going, forest and the hood having the highest chance and going home the lowest.

Currently enemies spawn randomly when walking, but what I will do for v0.2 is add more of them and make each location have its own mobs to fight kinda like elden ring, some locations having stronger enemies than others. Added some upgrades to combat in general, if you ever played darkest dungeon you'll feel quite familiar with it.
 

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ok so question, to the dev, but some of the setup of the game, what with the MRA stuff, and the fact that characterst that have level 1 muscles sprites even tough mots of them start in game at level 2 to 3, will there be a dom path where de-muscle the girls, or am I reading too much in to this?
 
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..dat would be kinda nice.....
yeah tough the idea I'm having if there are plans for like the MRA's to reverse the whole world order, to mssively sumisive women and ludicrous dominate men, I have this hope largely because society wide shenanigans are a sort of a trope of muscle growth/ weight gain games, so there is a precedent for it
 
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I think this project has promise but its just all over the place; there's a monstergirl secret war, A femboy upraising that has no effect on the "plot", the plot itself is nonexistent, our femboy Mc has no motivation or purpose and gets bullied regardless of his muscle lvl, there's no fail state at yet so that gets a pass.
I think the game should take some ques from Persona3 or True Love 95 in the life sim aspects and the story structure or at least tie everything up together in some interconnected way because as it is shit just feels thrown together.

Honestly Suzan, the Pizza Girl, Angela are my favs just on the fact that they aren't abusive cunts
 

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I think this project has promise but its just all over the place; there's a monstergirl secret war, A femboy upraising that has no effect on the "plot", the plot itself is nonexistent, our femboy Mc has no motivation or purpose and gets bullied regardless of his muscle lvl, there's no fail state at yet so that gets a pass.
I think the game should take some ques from Persona3 or True Love 95 in the life sim aspects and the story structure or at least tie everything up together in some interconnected way because as it is shit just feels thrown together.

Honestly Suzan, the Pizza Girl, Angela are my favs just on the fact that they aren't abusive cunts
Well, as a persona fan I can say implementing a persona mechanic is a very complex thing. You should have a very strict narration points and it will limit your sandbox system and then you should design narration for every variation you make. For example in fmg games, strong girls had done it and they had done and are doing a very nice job. But it is obvious how they are forced to limit many things in the game for the sake of narration working.
Another problem about a solid story line, for a tf game specially a fmg one as evil femboy said is that you should design unlimited scenarios for every growth, tf or choice in the game . It isn't impossible but it takes a lot work. The solution is you make full linear and keep sandbox as just something ornamental. The game will appear a sandbox one but in reality it isn't. Or you can define plot points and for every growth stage stick strictly to it.
The example for the first here is a mind control game by the name of take over. The first part is great but the second part the devs are forced to going full linear and because of it I think the second part the same charm that first part had.
Example for the second solution is Gina gym. By the end of chapter 2 all girls in that game will have level 4 muscle regardless of what you did in that chapter. If I remember correctly a bimbofication game by the name of candy legacy had done the same too. It isn't the ideal solution. But it is the only solution I can think of that it works and doesn't sacrifice every aspect of the sandbox format of the game.
Actually I agree with you more or less. I think evil femboy would be forced to restracturalize the whole game sooner rather than later. I only think the persona model is a little far fetched although not completely impossible. I mean atlus narration designers are monsters among monsters in the industry. They are excellent even in their worst games. The work they had done with their narration appears simple on the surface but in reality it is very complex. And it is even harder to implement in a game with transformation as a core mechanic. I mean for example the strong girls had done a nice job with implementing a persona structure on the game, but when it came down to fmg and tf they had forced to cheat their own way out like the way Gina's gym did. Even when you have a permenat tf and fmg for girls at the end of chapter 3 it is predefined regardless of which girl you date.
 
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Enemies cycle through so you dont face the same people all the time, I added more enemies for next update and now most of them don't actually rob you so it's not as hard. Also added this boss fight with this girl who is now the biggest in the game, level 6 muscle, gave the bitch a second stage too (elden ring eat my ass, I suck really bad and got destroyed by everyone). I don't even know if she's possible to beat without cheats rn lmao, will see once I get some frens to beta test.

Also yeah, you can avoid enemies with public transport, the enemies show up randomly when walking, time of day makes no difference. Though the chance to run into enemies depends on where you're going, forest and the hood having the highest chance and going home the lowest.

Currently enemies spawn randomly when walking, but what I will do for v0.2 is add more of them and make each location have its own mobs to fight kinda like elden ring, some locations having stronger enemies than others. Added some upgrades to combat in general, if you ever played darkest dungeon you'll feel quite familiar with it.
Awesome! The combat setup so far is decent but still very barebones, so expanding on that is a great idea. And Darkest Dungeon's combat setup is a good choice to emulate.

Speaking of combat: I did the "Tame the Goth II"-quest, and my muscle level was so high that I actually beat those futa bitches - but even after the 'you win'-message, everything still played out as if I had lost. Is that going to be fixed in future updates, or are we just not supposed to win this scenario?

(for that matter, I'm guessing that actually outrunning them isn't possible either? I had 5 cardio, and those futa guards ran me down just as easily as back when I was still at 1)

I love just about everything about this game so far, but it's kinda weird that we can't get with Rachel without either pursuing the stepmom or getting gangraped by futa roid monsters...

EDIT: forget that last bit, I'm an idiot - I didn't try biting the futa's balls as she tried to rape me, so I didn't see that that's how you get Rachel to intervene.
 
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Well, as a persona fan I can say implementing a persona mechanic is a very complex thing. You should have a very strict narration points and it will limit your sandbox system and then you should design narration for every variation you make. For example in fmg games, strong girls had done it and they had done and are doing a very nice job. But it is obvious how they are forced to limit many things in the game for the sake of narration working.
Another problem about a solid story line, for a tf game specially a fmg one as evil femboy said is that you should design unlimited scenarios for every growth, tf or choice in the game . It isn't impossible but it takes a lot work. The solution is you make full linear and keep sandbox as just something ornamental. The game will appear a sandbox one but in reality it isn't. Or you can define plot points and for every growth stage stick strictly to it.
The example for the first here is a mind control game by the name of take over. The first part is great but the second part the devs are forced to going full linear and because of it I think the second part the same charm that first part had.
Example for the second solution is Gina gym. By the end of chapter 2 all girls in that game will have level 4 muscle regardless of what you did in that chapter. If I remember correctly a bimbofication game by the name of candy legacy had done the same too. It isn't the ideal solution. But it is the only solution I can think of that it works and doesn't sacrifice every aspect of the sandbox format of the game.
Actually I agree with you more or less. I think evil femboy would be forced to restracturalize the whole game sooner rather than later. I only think the persona model is a little far fetched although not completely impossible. I mean atlus narration designers are monsters among monsters in the industry. They are excellent even in their worst games. The work they had done with their narration appears simple on the surface but in reality it is very complex. And it is even harder to implement in a game with transformation as a core mechanic. I mean for example the strong girls had done a nice job with implementing a persona structure on the game, but when it came down to fmg and tf they had forced to cheat their own way out like the way Gina's gym did. Even when you have a permenat tf and fmg for girls at the end of chapter 3 it is predefined regardless of which girl you date.
Mhmm, Food for thought. I do recommend play True Love 95 to really see what I'm talking about. As it relates to Tfs its more about acknowledgement n how it affects a scene rather than writing an entirely different scene, tho its nice if that is done regardless.
 
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Mhmm, Food for thought. I do recommend play True Love 95 to really see what I'm talking about. As it relates to Tfs its more about acknowledgement n how it affects a scene rather than writing an entirely different scene, tho its nice if that is done regardless.
do you mean this?

tnx for recommendation. i will play it for sure. Actually I am watching its walkthrough and gameplay videos right now. I get your point. You mean to treat the transformations like stats. And making interchangeable parts instead of rewriting the whole scene. it is ok and doable.
the problem is in this game tf isn't exclusive to mc. a few of characters have their own tf and they are interconnected in many scenes too. in a way, this the point which game unique but on the other hand it make very complex to implement atf related branching for story.
for example in the rachel dating scene if he wants to implement such a system. in simplest case he must define for mc and mia each three situation in respect to other characters: smaller size, same size and bigger size. then he must define these three factors for mia and mc but this time in respect to each other. there is also sub and dom route. if you count there will be a neat 56 version of the same scene which in the same time should be consistent and coherent. it is nearly misson impossible which even if it succeeds there is high chance that it would make game soulless and mechanical and not the fun crazy fmg world which we knew.
and again i agree with you. if evil femboy don't choose the scale of project will get out of hand and the project won't be viable soon. i think there is two clear path for him.
he could define a solid story campaign and stick growth stages strictly to his story points. and then define routs for the story like dom, sub or futanary.
or he can go full metagame and ignore all inconsistancy like a boss.
also buying a full triple a game is an option. it is within his god like powers. but if he wants to use it for such a worldly affairs or not, is completely another matter. :cool:
 
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if you count there will be a neat 56 version of the same scene which in the same time should be consistent and coherent. it is nearly misson impossible which even if it succeeds there is high chance that it would make game soulless and mechanical and not the fun crazy fmg world which we knew.
Your math ain't mathing but I see you; he'd have to be very meticulous in monitoring variation and that can be taxing for some devs but I think its worth it in the end for having a coherent story that maintains that sweet spot of immersion and goofy bs.

and again i agree with you. if evil femboy don't choose the scale of project will get out of hand and the project won't be viable soon. i think there is two clear path for him.
he could define a solid story campaign and stick growth stages strictly to his story points. and then define routs for the story like dom, sub or futanary.
or he can go full metagame and ignore all inconsistancy like a boss.
also buying a full triple a game is an option. it is within his god like powers. but if he wants to use it for such a worldly affairs or not, is completely another matter. :cool:
We gots to just wait n see
 
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