Others Forest of the Blue Skin [Build Jun] [Zell23]

[SuperHGeek]

Many people have mentioned it but...
He has never learned what good control schemes are after allllll these years.
Like, just copy the common metroidvania or action-H game control scheme and add your unique things.
Even Shiro is really awkward with the controls, but it at least tells you them (if you can read some Japanese).

Animations still great though (and Succubus Affection was fantastic but he had help making that one lol) and he actually is working on it, if he doesn't just *keep* working on it we should actually eventually get a full game.

Edit:
I looked earlier in the thread and I was glad to see many people saying what I thought a while back: Shiro should get its own thread. Plain. Simple.

 

[Supreme Dumbass of Thyme]

Absolutely OD!!
This worked instantly!
What I did was uninstall all the fuckers and then did the Jump Jump trick and it worked.
Definitely one of those things that when it works it frustrates you because of how """easy""" it was or how it should have just worked in the first damn place.

Thank you so seriously much, for real!

This is what I ended up looking like lmao
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Congrats! I'll make sure to write down exactly what you did so I can give this information to others later in case the same issue pops up for them. I think what the issue was with Jump Jump is that it couldn't download the proper things because a few files made it believe it was already there. As they say, Knowing Is Half The Battle. (G. I. JOE-)

 

[Supreme Dumbass of Thyme]

Many people have mentioned it but...
He has never learned what good control schemes are after allllll these years.
Like, just copy the common metroidvania or action-H game control scheme and add your unique things.
Even Shiro is really awkward with the controls, but it at least tells you them (if you can read some Japanese).

Animations still great though (and Succubus Affection was fantastic but he had help making that one lol) and he actually is working on it, if he doesn't just *keep* working on it we should actually eventually get a full game.

Edit:
I looked earlier in the thread and I was glad to see many people saying what I thought a while back: Shiro should get its own thread. Plain. Simple.

Navigating to see where the controls are is slightly annoying if you don't already know the controls, but FOBS does tell you what they are by default. And in fairness to Zell, the controls *are* managable. A bit too spaced out, but workable enough. Personally, I changed the jump button from Space to X and that worked wonders for me.

 

[Zane Carlson]

Definitely one of those things that when it works it frustrates you because of how """easy""" it was or how it should have just worked in the first damn place.

I know, right?
Some times I really wonder whether we are all just not smart enough to just see the easy from the get go or if we are all doomed to just endlessly overcomplicate things for ourselves.
It is an everlasting mystery indeed.

I looked earlier in the thread and I was glad to see many people saying what I thought a while back: Shiro should get its own thread. Plain. Simple.

I for one voted for a dev thread where all their games end up on.
Like FOBS, those horror projects or that alice thing although I am unsure whether they actually made it or just did the art in it.

 

[Zane Carlson]

Supreme Dumbass of Thyme For me it's:
Map = M
Speed up game = R
Masturbate = S
Dash = Shift
Jump = Spacebar
Fully fill cum bar = E
Attack = A
Switch weapons = Q (no other weapons yet)
Monster ability = D
Switch monster ability = W
Menu = Tab
Menu switching = Q/W
Menu navigation = left/right arrows

I have not changed anything ever in any build.
I could post my keybinds in order if anyone wants to copy them.

 

[Supreme Dumbass of Thyme]

Supreme Dumbass of Thyme For me it's:
Map = M
Speed up game = R
Masturbate = S
Dash = Shift
Jump = Spacebar
Fully fill cum bar = E
Attack = A
Switch weapons = Q (no other weapons yet)
Monster ability = D
Switch monster ability = W
Menu = Tab
Menu switching = Q/W
Menu navigation = left/right arrows

I have not changed anything ever in any build.
I could post my keybinds in order if anyone wants to copy them.

Yeah, like I said, this is manageable to me. The only real problem is the fact that jump is assigned to the spacebar since it's annoying even with my really lanky fingers, but it's not so egregious that being unable to use any other button would kill me.

 

[millyrainbow]

Navigating to see where the controls are is slightly annoying if you don't already know the controls, but FOBS does tell you what they are by default. And in fairness to Zell, the controls *are* managable. A bit too spaced out, but workable enough. Personally, I changed the jump button from Space to X and that worked wonders for me.

I actually dont see the problem with it tbh. Its largely the standard japanese layout. But maybe thats just me playing a ton of niche japanese games.

 

[millyrainbow]

Supreme Dumbass of Thyme For me it's:
Map = M
Speed up game = R
Masturbate = S
Dash = Shift
Jump = Spacebar
Fully fill cum bar = E
Attack = A
Switch weapons = Q (no other weapons yet)
Monster ability = D
Switch monster ability = W
Menu = Tab
Menu switching = Q/W
Menu navigation = left/right arrows

I have not changed anything ever in any build.
I could post my keybinds in order if anyone wants to copy them.

Its been a hot minute, but lets see...
All of these are Numpad except for arrow keys and pgdown obviously.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8
Directional Buttons = 4 . . 6
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
Map = -
Masturbate = ←
Dash = →
Jump = 0
CumBar Fill = pgdn
Attack = 5
Swap weapons = 7 9
Monster Ability = ↓
Menu = +
Menu Switching = 7 9
Menu nav = 1 3

This has actually been my general control scheme since i played packedrat years ago xD So im very accustomed to it.

 

[Supreme Dumbass of Thyme]

Its been a hot minute, but lets see...
All of these are Numpad except for arrow keys and pgdown obviously.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8
Directional Buttons = 4 . . 6
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
Map = -
Masturbate = ←
Dash = →
Jump = 0
CumBar Fill = pgdn
Attack = 5
Swap weapons = 7 9
Monster Ability = ↓
Menu = +
Menu Switching = 7 9
Menu nav = 1 3

This has actually been my general control scheme since i played packedrat years ago xD So im very accustomed to it.

That is a BEAUTIFUL layout. Now if only I were playing on a desktop and not a laptop-

 

[Supreme Dumbass of Thyme]

I actually dont see the problem with it tbh. Its largely the standard japanese layout. But maybe thats just me playing a ton of niche japanese games.

It's probably the latter, but fair enough. I've seen a few different layouts across Japanese games, so this being another standard one doesn't surprise me. I just haven't seen it much.

 

[Hunker453]

Its been a hot minute, but lets see...
All of these are Numpad except for arrow keys and pgdown obviously.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8
Directional Buttons = 4 . . 6
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
Map = -
Masturbate = ←
Dash = →
Jump = 0
CumBar Fill = pgdn
Attack = 5
Swap weapons = 7 9
Monster Ability = ↓
Menu = +
Menu Switching = 7 9
Menu nav = 1 3

This has actually been my general control scheme since i played packedrat years ago xD So im very accustomed to it.

Arrow keys for movement, AND being on the left side! That's kinda rare!
For decades it's always been absolute insanity to me to have directional controls on the right. I get it, the arrow keys are on the right... But so many games have been using WASD as the de-facto standard for so long yet indie developers and the odd AA/AAA game opt for arrow keys. When was the the last time you used a gamepad controller with movement on the right?
As someone else mentioned: this appears to be the lingering standard for Japan.

And I'm not saying that it's "bad"; just weird to me.
I do see the benefit if your input device has ghosting issues, and arrow keys provide some leeway for rollover.
To each their own - just use whatever is comfortable, but I'm still finding it surprising to this day.

 

[millyrainbow]

Arrow keys for movement, AND being on the left side! That's kinda rare!
For decades it's always been absolute insanity to me to have directional controls on the right. I get it, the arrow keys are on the right... But so many games have been using WASD as the de-facto standard for so long yet indie developers and the odd AA/AAA game opt for arrow keys. When was the the last time you used a gamepad controller with movement on the right?
As someone else mentioned: this appears to be the lingering standard for Japan.

And I'm not saying that it's "bad"; just weird to me.
I do see the benefit if your input device has ghosting issues, and arrow keys provide some leeway for rollover.
To each their own - just use whatever is comfortable, but I'm still finding it surprising to this day.

I just wanted to play with one hand, and i dont find it comfy to play with my left hand.
Also teeechnically it is arrow keys as directional, but its the numpads arrow keys. I use the normal arrow keys for things like dodge and abilities.
I use the arrow keys because i can rest middle finger on 5 which can be set as an action/okay/attack button and with this position, 0 is the perfect resting space for thumb, so jumping and sometimes cancel are good stuff. Its only a slight shift to the left to hit the right arrow from the 0 button too, making it a good dodge or sprint button(unless the game has sprinting and jumping being a thing...)
The rest are just convenience buttons. + is great as a menu button. - Is great for alternative menu butons (like map). 7,9 are great for abilities if theres multiples, and also good for games that let you tab through pages in a menu (like most rpg maker games)


I do have a setup for the jkl; side of the keyboard as well, but its a little different. I had to set it up for some rpgmaker games that insist on making sprint locked to shift, which autohotkeys doesnt handle well.

 

[SuperHGeek]

Navigating to see where the controls are is slightly annoying if you don't already know the controls, but FOBS does tell you what they are by default. And in fairness to Zell, the controls *are* managable. A bit too spaced out, but workable enough. Personally, I changed the jump button from Space to X and that worked wonders for me.

After looking again (after I wrote my message so I'm an asshole for that) I see that FOBS does give its controls, if you know how to navigate lmao and switch the language (but it has nice visuals so language isn't really needed), but the menu nav is also at the top.

The controls are manageable, true. However, still ass lmao

 

[Gaden Kerensky]

So, is the walkthrough on the first page out of date for the 1.0 version you can download? Like, how does one capture Harpies or those hopping monsters in the dress in that one waterfall area?

 

[Supreme Dumbass of Thyme]

So, is the walkthrough on the first page out of date for the 1.0 version you can download? Like, how does one capture Harpies or those hopping monsters in the dress in that one waterfall area?

Both Harpies and Mush have been and still are uncapturable from that build onward. That walkthrough is designed for the A and B versions of the game, which are reallly old and were made on an entirely different engine and are for all intents and purposes a complete game split in half.

 

[Gaden Kerensky]

Ah. Understood. What other monsters can't be captured?

 

[Kisama33]

Ah. Understood. What other monsters can't be captured?

If their heart in the gallery has a red cross over it they can't be captured.

Example above (from top to bottom): Captured, Not Captured, Can't be Captured (for now).

 

[Gaden Kerensky]

Ah, I see. Wait, is this version of FOBS getting further updates?

 

[Supreme Dumbass of Thyme]

Ah, I see. Wait, is this version of FOBS getting further updates?

It is. It's on a monthly cycle. The next update will most likely be somewhere around the 31st of this month.

Edit: I can tell I'm exhausted, this and my last replies are painful to read in hindsight-

 

[Gaden Kerensky]

Nah, you make sense.

Though now I'm wondering how to get these last achievements.

The ones for the Forest Dweller and the final achievement.