BiXsu69

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Hello again to everyone! I want to make one more remark. Maybe it's not important, but it still looks wrong, when GG comes to the gym, I train the lower part of the body and GG is already (with breasts, ass removed, lips too) and the gif of a man and does an exercise on the upper part of the body,,, is not correct, well, this is My personal opinion... Good luck!
 

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how i do that ?
I'll make it clearer in the next patch, but essentially, if you are too muscular, eat a bunch of junk food, if you are too fat, exercise more. It is an optional task so if you can't complete it, it's not that big of an issue

As long as it isn't nicknamed "SkyNet", we should be good. :unsure: :sneaky:
I'm afraid it owns the launch codes for my personal Hypno Blimp... Oh well, what could possibly go wrong?

Hello again to everyone! I want to make one more remark. Maybe it's not important, but it still looks wrong, when GG comes to the gym, I train the lower part of the body and GG is already (with breasts, ass removed, lips too) and the gif of a man and does an exercise on the upper part of the body,,, is not correct, well, this is My personal opinion... Good luck!
I could tweak that fairly easily, thank you for mentioning it :)
 
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BiXsu69

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Kara wanted you to wear a feminine top and bottom alongside your feminine underwear.
Am I that stupid or blind??? Which of the clothes bought in a women's store is not feminine? I've been trying to dress, bitch, in *feminine* clothes for an hour or more, and what do you think is not *feminine*??? From what you provided in the game??? Fucked up, it's stupid for a nerd! I'm shocked!!!
 

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Kara wanted you to wear a feminine top and bottom alongside your feminine underwear.
Am I that stupid or blind??? Which of the clothes bought in a women's store is not feminine? I've been trying to dress, bitch, in *feminine* clothes for an hour or more, and what do you think is not *feminine*??? From what you provided in the game??? Fucked up, it's stupid for a nerd! I'm shocked!!!
Can you give me more details? It's probably just a little bug. Please tell me what clothes you were wearing (all of them, I'll double check if there is conflict)
 

BiXsu69

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I tried all the options except latex, I hope that latex does not belong to feminine??? Although who is the judge here)))
 

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That doesn't help for troubleshooting purposes I'm afraid. This being said, are you also wearing feminine underwear (panties+bra or lingerie)? This might be the cause of the issue.
 

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So MC drops by the grocery store to pick up stuff. While there, I have them go into inventory to see what they have and what they might need. The return link from that puts MC back in the Travel Passage instead of the grocery store. Hitting return from the Travel Passage puts us back in the inventory passage. So we have to nav to somewhere other than the grocery store at this point in order to return from that and have a grocery store to get back into.
 

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So MC drops by the grocery store to pick up stuff. While there, I have them go into inventory to see what they have and what they might need. The return link from that puts MC back in the Travel Passage instead of the grocery store. Hitting return from the Travel Passage puts us back in the inventory passage. So we have to nav to somewhere other than the grocery store at this point in order to return from that and have a grocery store to get back into.
That's odd behavior, I'll investigate it.
 

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The further maddening thing is it doesn't seem to be reliably reproducible. After reporting this while doing the workaround I forgot whether I had enough food. So back into the inventory again. Exit out puts us back into the store. Bought the food and then leave the store back to Travel.

Ah, this is the problem. Going into inventory from Travel passage returns us to Travel in the context of whatever loc. So we can't go into that loc at this point. That's what bit me.

That's odd behavior, I'll investigate it.
 

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Ah, this is the problem. Going into inventory from Travel passage returns us to Travel in the context of whatever loc. So we can't go into that loc at this point. That's what bit me.
Oh, well that is intended behavior. That being said, I'll experiment with a tooltip on the buy buttons for stackable items, just for the click reduction factor.
 

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Doing the first makeup task has very little feedback. I got around to setting up MC's routines on wakup and included a makeup preset #1 of just applying a foundation. Trouble is there is zero feedback of your makeup status short of drilling into specific makeup options and verifying that foundation is marked as a "remove" rather than a "wear". Not even the makeup skill in the stats moved off of 0, although I suppose you might argue that such a thing is too trivial to even be worth a single xp point.
 

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I'll probably include this iin the profile, it feels like it would be the best option for this. As of xp, the idea was triviality, but I might make it a chance to gain xp or something else in the future. Someone is helping me for a future balance patch, so I'll shoot them a word about this to get thoughts.
 

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This late stage passage for the dance class appeared at first to be a dead end. When I threw it into the inspection console, I realized that the next passage link was actually the period at the end of the sentence. So we're resorting to "secret passages" now? :D

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<div id="passage-class2" data-passage="Class2" class="passage">Progress is slow, but you have a general idea of what you want to do. You start testing some of the more risky bit, with a camera filming, so you don't forget<a class="link-internal macro-link" role="button" tabindex="0" id="NextLink">.</a></div>
 

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Back to the playthrough again....

The shower routine and the daily routine can have conflicting wardrobe settings. I didn't spot this until I had the final crossdresser task of wearing feminine outfit and haircut/wig in public. MC gets dinged by Kara, and I originally thought it might have been a bug because I had just gotten MC over to the hairstylist for a wavy cut. It turns out that it was actually the wardrobe. I had adjusted the shower routine wardrobe to have a feminine preset, but the daily wardrobe preset was a different non-feminine setting. These routines should probably use the same wardrobe preset, because why would they be different? OTOH having a different preset depending on day of week (ie class day versus work day versus weekend) would be nice. Also there's enough real estate in the side bar to have dress state, etc or a even a "mini-me" image for looks at a glance

The transit mechanism could use a major revamp. Normally I have MC cheap out by not buying gym memberships or bus passes at first. In fact, this playthrough has MC jogging at the track and walking everywhere right up until the end of Nov. Once I had MC buy the pass, it got me thinking about how crufty this whole thing has gotten since the beginning.

Let's take the pub for example where I just had MC get inspected by Kara. There's no bus stop. So apparently MC can't get anywhere from there without walking the entire way. This doesn't make sense for several reasons. Buses are set up with routes that have frequent stops, and between that and route transfers there should be some sort of min-max solution that has a MC doing walking and riding getting pretty much anywhere else faster than just walking the whole way.

MC is stuck downtown unless they get a bus pass and can get to a location with a bus stop. The problem with this is that humans can pretty much walk anywhere in a city provided that they are relatively healthy and have time to burn. This may become a bit of a sport challenge however. U Penn students may be familar with the "Walnut Street Walk" challenge where they start at Front Street and go up Walnut Street towards campus where they have a drink at every bar on the way. They end up crossing a major river/highway/railway on the way and possibly throwing up into that major river. Not recommended for minors and people lacking professional drinker skills. Also don't try this around DisneyWorld in Florida or other "red state" cities because they often don't believe in simple things like cross walks, or have drivers who like to "roll coal"/throw things/do target practice on soft targets that don't look like their tribe.

So why do we have no way of taking the bus without coughing up for a bus pass every thirty days? I have yet to visit any city in the US or Europe where I couldn't get on a bus or subway and throw in the requisite amount of coin, scrap or shrapnel (is that only an Aussie term?) for a single fare. Day passes are pretty common too.

There's nothing about riding a bike, getting roller blades, bike and whatever shares, scooters, etc.
 

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Back to the dignity balancing act again. I knew LoC had written in a waitress job in the red light district based on my earlier comments about the gas station job being a low paying dead end until things like the secretary open up at the end of some of the college courses. By taking the dancing course, I had expected one of the clubs to open up a dancer gig at some point. The trouble is that a "proud trap" MC will keep their dignity up in the 90s if they manage to pay the rent and only have the rare amount of fun and profit at the glory hole in the gas station. I have MC at dignity 92 on this playthrough and this is taking things all the way up to christmas eve. MC can't even camwhore until dignity drops below 90 even with a purchased vpn, yet they can blow rando's at the local gas station right from the getgo. I had to look in the html to find out that even the waitress job had to have dignity down at the 90 level. I didn't even bother to look for the dignity gate for the stripper job, but I seem to recall it was down around 50 or 60.

So there's a couple of issues here. The links are invisible until you make it past the check. There's no way short of whatever might be on discord (which I don't use) or knowing how to read code to know that these jobs are actually possibilities. It would be a much appreciated ui change to at least have the links be visible but inactive with the needed gate conditions listed.

Dignity shouldn't be the end all/be all check here. It may come into play in the "dimly lit street" (another invisible "job" link) or lap dancing. But a "proud trap" can be up for the gig if their dance skills are up along with their sissification and feminization levels. It will just be a "look but don't touch" sort of thing. That would be especially true if they are more of a dom than a sub. The CamWhore should be able to make the grade once their acting skills and/or dancing skills are up high enough to be confident in being an exhibitionist.

In summary, this game hides a lot of stuff from people who may want to play a certain way.
 
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Wow, thank you for this extra batch of feedback, there's a lot to cover so I'll cover each parts separatly so I don't get too carried away.

Back to the playthrough again....

The shower routine and the daily routine can have conflicting wardrobe settings. I didn't spot this until I had the final crossdresser task of wearing feminine outfit and haircut/wig in public. MC gets dinged by Kara, and I originally thought it might have been a bug because I had just gotten MC over to the hairstylist for a wavy cut. It turns out that it was actually the wardrobe. I had adjusted the shower routine wardrobe to have a feminine preset, but the daily wardrobe preset was a different non-feminine setting. These routines should probably use the same wardrobe preset, because why would they be different? OTOH having a different preset depending on day of week (ie class day versus work day versus weekend) would be nice. Also there's enough real estate in the side bar to have dress state, etc or a even a "mini-me" image for looks at a glance
The conflict is voluntary, you choose which outfit to put with the shower routine to begin with. This allowes you to live a "Jake by day, Jane by night" lifestyle fairly easily as you can come back from school, hop in the shower and get ready to go clubbing/stripping/anything. This is also practical for going from professional to casual at the end of your day or any other combinations. It's also configurable to your liking, so I'm not sure of the issue here to be quite frank.

The transit mechanism could use a major revamp. Normally I have MC cheap out by not buying gym memberships or bus passes at first. In fact, this playthrough has MC jogging at the track and walking everywhere right up until the end of Nov. Once I had MC buy the pass, it got me thinking about how crufty this whole thing has gotten since the beginning.

Let's take the pub for example where I just had MC get inspected by Kara. There's no bus stop. So apparently MC can't get anywhere from there without walking the entire way. This doesn't make sense for several reasons. Buses are set up with routes that have frequent stops, and between that and route transfers there should be some sort of min-max solution that has a MC doing walking and riding getting pretty much anywhere else faster than just walking the whole way.

MC is stuck downtown unless they get a bus pass and can get to a location with a bus stop. The problem with this is that humans can pretty much walk anywhere in a city provided that they are relatively healthy and have time to burn. This may become a bit of a sport challenge however. [-Snip-]

So why do we have no way of taking the bus without coughing up for a bus pass every thirty days? I have yet to visit any city in the US or Europe where I couldn't get on a bus or subway and throw in the requisite amount of coin, scrap or shrapnel (is that only an Aussie term?) for a single fare. Day passes are pretty common too.

There's nothing about riding a bike, getting roller blades, bike and whatever shares, scooters, etc.
Revamping the transit system will be done in the future, there are some things I want to change myself, but I do have a "map" of the town, with the busses following a circular road within the district. Of course, realism is a thing, but perfect realism would mean a lot of extra things would have to change, some for the worst (eating 3 meals a day, sleeping more than like... 2 hours). It's a delicate balance, but I think it's something that can be improved in the future. This being said, this will probably wait until 0.1.0 as the backend will change drastically and adding new items is pointless until then.

Back to the dignity balancing act again. I knew LoC had written in a waitress job in the red light district based on my earlier comments about the gas station job being a low paying dead end until things like the secretary open up at the end of some of the college courses. By taking the dancing course, I had expected one of the clubs to open up a dancer gig at some point. The trouble is that a "proud trap" MC will keep their dignity up in the 90s if they manage to pay the rent and only have the rare amount of fun and profit at the glory hole in the gas station. I have MC at dignity 92 on this playthrough and this is taking things all the way up to christmas eve. MC can't even camwhore until dignity drops below 90 even with a purchased vpn, yet they can blow rando's at the local gas station right from the getgo. I had to look in the html to find out that even the waitress job had to have dignity down at the 90 level. I didn't even bother to look for the dignity gate for the stripper job, but I seem to recall it was down around 50 or 60.

So there's a couple of issues here. The links are invisible until you make it past the check. There's no way short of whatever might be on discord (which I don't use) or knowing how to read code to know that these jobs are actually possibilities. It would be a much appreciated ui change to at least have the links be visible but inactive with the needed gate conditions listed.

Dignity shouldn't be the end all/be all check here. It may come into play in the "dimly lit street" (another invisible "job" link) or lap dancing. But a "proud trap" can be up for the gig if their dance skills are up along with their sissification and feminization levels. It will just be a "look but don't touch" sort of thing. That would be especially true if they are more of a dom than a sub. The CamWhore should be able to make the grade once their acting skills and/or dancing skills are up high enough to be confident in being an exhibitionist.

In summary, this game hides a lot of stuff from people who may want to play a certain way.
This comes again at the fundamental misunderstanding with the stat of dignity. Having a low dignity doesn't mean you live only to be fucked all day and can't be a productive member of society. It's more about what you are willing to do that isn't "standard". While I agree there should be other ways to lower dignity than porn and fleshlight masturbation, it shouldn't be seen as a stat that needs to be upheld in case of consequences either.

The idea of showing "locked" interactions is one I'm honestly divided on, to be quite honest with you. On one hand, I can understand it is more difficult to find all the interactions, but on the other hand, some interactions can't just be shown as locked (like some variations in certain events pertaining to your choice of clothing, chastity, etc.). It is something I have to consider further, but for those that don't break immersion, it could be interesting, especially in repeatable interactions. That being said, it can also break immersion to see "Suck your landlord's dick (Need dignity <95)"...

Alternate conditions have been partially implemented so far for chastity, and it will come to other things, but I still need to figure what those alternate conditions are myself too. I know it's your battle horse in a sense, but I need to consider those further for now.

Currently, my main priority is to add more events, so when I do those major balance/backend changes, the players will still have a lot of "unexplored" content if they only had one or two playthroughs under their belt. What you suggest is noted, trust me, but until I'm satisfied with the amount of content currently available (which will be in about 3 weeks of school content, for the october update-ish), it is unlikely I will be making any of the deeper changes. The one that might come during this time frame is alternate conditions however.

Again, thank you again for the feedback, I always enjoy discussing about how the game can be improved, even if changes aren't necessarily immediate.
 
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If the Random backstory is chosen and $backstory is set to 4 the game tries to move to scene Character Creation 2a, which does not exist.
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The following variables are not initialized, so they don't do anything when browsing porn:
Code:
$BimboFail
$FemFail
$MaleFail
$RegFail
$SissyFail
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In RV3p3 there is no way to reach the lingerie reaction "Wait, you are already wearing lingerie?". This can be fixed by adding and $Lingerie is "None" to the end of the first check (the one that check for all the male underwear and Crystal's). Though this does allow a little bit of narrative conflict with the 2nd check of $Undie1 for Crystal's Panties if you were already wearing lingerie when you first received and wore her panties and didn't change clothes, as $Undie1 will be Crystal's Panties, while $Lingerie, $Undie2, and $Undie3 will still report the lingerie worn in the scene RV2p6a (again, only if clothes haven't been changed since). So the Crystal's Panties check (the 2nd check) succeeds if the player wore her panties (to get the previous scene of wearing her panties to the club) even if wearing lingerie, but succeed with the lingerie check (the 3rd check) if the player wore lingerie and did not keep wear her panties and "hands" them to Crystal in the previous scene.
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Preceding the above mentioned scene, when entering the club, the line "wearing Crystal's panties while you look for her" cannot trigger because the check is incorrect if $Undie1 is "Crystal Panties". This misspelling also occurs in RV3p3 where Kara says "I know you wore Crystal panties to get back home the other day and...".
 
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If the Random backstory is chosen and $backstory is set to 4 the game tries to move to scene Character Creation 2a, which does not exist.
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The following variables are not initialized, so they don't do anything when browsing porn:
Code:
$BimboFail
$FemFail
$MaleFail
$RegFail
$SissyFail
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In RV3p3 there is no way to reach the lingerie reaction "Wait, you are already wearing lingerie?". This can be fixed by adding and $Lingerie is "None" to the end of the first check (the one that check for all the male underwear and Crystal's). Though this does allow a little bit of narrative conflict with the 2nd check of $Undie1 for Crystal's Panties if you were already wearing lingerie when you first received and wore her panties and didn't change clothes, as $Undie1 will be Crystal's Panties, while $Lingerie, $Undie2, and $Undie3 will still report the lingerie worn in the scene RV2p6a (again, only if clothes haven't been changed since). So the Crystal's Panties check (the 2nd check) succeeds if the player wore her panties (to get the previous scene of wearing her panties to the club) even if wearing lingerie, but succeed with the lingerie check (the 3rd check) if the player wore lingerie and did not keep wear her panties and "hands" them to Crystal in the previous scene.
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Preceding the above mentioned scene, when entering the club, the line "wearing Crystal's panties while you look for her" cannot trigger because the check is incorrect if $Undie1 is "Crystal Panties". This misspelling also occurs in RV3p3 where Kara says "I know you wore Crystal panties to get back home the other day and...".
Thank you so much for the reports! I'll get those patched right way :)
 
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