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[LordOfChangeGames]

So... I'm a trans woman myself, and I'm really not liking the fact that trans women are referred to as "she" (with quotes) and male. At first it wasn't done but when I found out Chrystal was trans now everything is done in quotes for her. In the readme, it says that's done for characters who are crossdressing and don't identify as women. Are you saying that character doesn't identify as a woman? Cause that makes no sense given the images used for her are all (or at least mostly) trans women...

Crystal doesn't identify as a woman, that is correct. While images might depict Crystal as such, it is mostly done as I didn't find better media at the time. The Halloween Party event offers a

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to this. It can also be noted that most caracters have inconsistent visual representation, based on basic attributes moreso than a specific model (Kara is a brunette usually portrayed with glasses, notably), with the exception of Mrs. Holt which consistently is portrayed by Kendra James so far. Crystal's visual representation is probably one of the most inconsistent whereas Crystal uses trans female, non-binary and cisgender female models depending on the scene.

On the otherhand, Cassidy, another trans NPC that appears in an event with Crystal is described using feminine pronouns. This being said, in the future, I will be adding an option for crossdressing caracter pronouns to allow players to use the convention they prefer, as I am fully aware this move to make scenes easier to follow might not be something everyone is comfortable with.

Edit: Clarifications in certain parts of the text. Additionally, I do want to say that while Crystal doesn't identify as female, the usage of the other gender's pronouns is fairly common in crossdressing/NGC communities, which is why the pronouns aren't switched to masculine pronouns. If, by any chance, I made an event with Crystal not crossdressing, I would be using he/him in the writing.

 

[LordOfChangeGames]

Has the Gym bug been fixed ?

Yes.

 

[SuspiciousLurker]

Crystal doesn't identify as a woman, that is correct. While images might depict Crystal as such, it is mostly done as I didn't find better media at the time. The Halloween Party event offers a

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to this. It can also be noted that most caracters have inconsistent visual representation, based on basic attributes moreso than a specific model (Kara is a brunette usually portrayed with glasses, notably), with the exception of Mrs. Holt which consistently is portrayed by Kendra James so far. Crystal's visual representation is probably one of the most inconsistent whereas Crystal uses trans female, non-binary and cisgender female models depending on the scene.

On the otherhand, Cassidy, another trans NPC that appears in an event with Crystal is described using feminine pronouns. This being said, in the future, I will be adding an option for crossdressing caracter pronouns to allow players to use the convention they prefer, as I am fully aware this move to make scenes easier to follow might not be something everyone is comfortable with.

Edit: Clarifications in certain parts of the text. Additionally, I do want to say that while Crystal doesn't identify as female, the usage of the other gender's pronouns is fairly common in crossdressing/NGC communities, which is why the pronouns aren't switched to masculine pronouns. If, by any chance, I made an event with Crystal not crossdressing, I would be using he/him in the writing.

I think to me the issue is specifically the quotes around the pronoun. I know this is a porn game, and not like super serious lol but that kinda feels like a slight. It's something transphobic people often do when referring to women like myself. I realize that was not your intent, and I... hope I made that clear in my initial post (honestly if I thought you were just a massive transphobe I wouldn't bother), but it does make some of the passages a bit hard to read through.

I'm not a crossdresser, but have known a few, and yeah, when they are in dress it's common for them to go by girl/she/her.

 

[LordOfChangeGames]

I think to me the issue is specifically the quotes around the pronoun. I know this is a porn game, and not like super serious lol but that kinda feels like a slight. It's something transphobic people often do when referring to women like myself. I realize that was not your intent, and I... hope I made that clear in my initial post (honestly if I thought you were just a massive transphobe I wouldn't bother), but it does make some of the passages a bit hard to read through.

I'm not a crossdresser, but have known a few, and yeah, when they are in dress it's common for them to go by girl/she/her.

I figured as much and it is why I mentioned the planned change, it is something that is really difficult to find a sweet spot between ease of understanding and not just being mean, it was a middle ground between possible confusion and using male pronouns which genuinely felt wrong even for me. I understand it can hit close to home for certain people and that is definitely not my intention as I am aware it is something that tends to happen, unfortunately. And I also completely agree that some topic, even in an adult game, need some extra care because of those reprehensible behaviors. Thank you for voicing your concerns, it does help me figuring out what to do about it in the future.

If you don't mind, which one do you think should be the new default when it does roll out, quotations or she/her. I'll offer all gender options alongside genderneutral, but the default will be between those two. If I keep the current default, there will be a new note added just to add some context and tell players they can change this at their discretion in the settings.

 

[SuspiciousLurker]

Just she/her. I mean, if someone is playing a game like this and has a problem calling a feminine person she/her aren't they kinda playing the wrong game to begin with? XD

 

[Smallfrie]

I think to me the issue is specifically the quotes around the pronoun. I know this is a porn game, and not like super serious lol but that kinda feels like a slight. It's something transphobic people often do when referring to women like myself. I realize that was not your intent, and I... hope I made that clear in my initial post (honestly if I thought you were just a massive transphobe I wouldn't bother), but it does make some of the passages a bit hard to read through.

I'm not a crossdresser, but have known a few, and yeah, when they are in dress it's common for them to go by girl/she/her.

Let me say first it is more like an anthill under magnifing glass...
I think the dev only tried to be comical... al be it clumsy one.
As for rigid transphobic people most of them not able to adapt and/or fear the change around them. Don't take it personal. (my favorite joke targets)

 

[LordOfChangeGames]

Let me say first it is more like an anthill under magnifing glass...
I think the dev only tried to be comical... al be it clumsy one.
As for rigid transphobic people most of them not able to adapt and/or fear the change around them. Don't take it personal. (my favorite joke targets)

Oh I wasn't trying to be comical per say, it was all for ease of following the events with Crystal and other female identifying NPCs, as I explained above. It was a good intention, but it was definitely clumsy, that I admit.

 

[SuspiciousLurker]

Let me say first it is more like an anthill under magnifing glass...
I think the dev only tried to be comical... al be it clumsy one.
As for rigid transphobic people most of them not able to adapt and/or fear the change around them. Don't take it personal. (my favorite joke targets)

Eh, it's less offense taken and more just like "that... could be handled a little better" lol.

You have to get some pretty fucking thick skin to be a trans woman, and be open about it. The amount of times people just ask me about my genitals, in public, in the presence of children, is astonishing. lol I honestly laugh about it because we're the ones accused of being obsessed with peoples genitals, yet others want a look in our panties constantly. It's ridiculous. lmfao

So please do not read into my posts as me being real finger wavingly judgmental or anything like that. lol

 

[Smallfrie]

Oh I wasn't trying to be comical per say, it was all for ease of following the events with Crystal and other female identifying NPCs, as I explained above. It was a good intention, but it was definitely clumsy, that I admit.

Well... that is what comical elements(can hurt ppl depending on audience) are there for even if you are not aware that they are.

 

[Smallfrie]

Eh, it's less offense taken and more just like "that... could be handled a little better" lol.

You have to get some pretty fucking thick skin to be a trans woman, and be open about it. The amount of times people just ask me about my genitals, in public, in the presence of children, is astonishing. lol I honestly laugh about it because we're the ones accused of being obsessed with peoples genitals, yet others want a look in our panties constantly. It's ridiculous. lmfao

So please do not read into my posts as me being real finger wavingly judgmental or anything like that. lol

I'm not reading into anything aside that you are sick and tired of it. (I have a some pretty fucking thick skin and al be it not a trans woman so i can understand better the world around properly)
Pppl do stupid things even if they are smart.

 

[MK00002]

Is there any way to consistantly raise the acting skill? I've been trying what was in the hints but its showing almost no progression at all using the Cam.to and the acting classes don't seem to give any acting skill exp at all.

And Cam.to is the only thing even moving it along but its so slow that its a drag especially since you can only do it once or twice a day for very little exp to be worth it. And there is no hint on how to increase viewership or whathave you.

Its makes it almost a wasteof time to even go the acting route instead of the other routes that have more easy and firm ways of getting exp for those routes.

 

[Smallfrie]

Is there any way to consistantly raise the acting skill? I've been trying what was in the hints but its showing almost no progression at all using the Cam.to and the acting classes don't seem to give any acting skill exp at all.

And Cam.to is the only thing even moving it along but its so slow that its a drag especially since you can only do it once or twice a day for very little exp to be worth it. And there is no hint on how to increase viewership or whathave you.

Its makes it almost a wasteof time to even go the acting route instead of the other routes that have more easy and firm ways of getting exp for those routes.

There are 2 work that grants acting experience.
1.freelance acting....there is a limit to it.
2.maid cafe job it grants acting and dancing experience.

 

[StarGlider]

I like the game, and I'm not bothered in the least by a wrong pronoun here or there. It's a work of fiction.
Those that are easily offended might be in the wrong forum.

 

[Smallfrie]

I like the game, and I'm not bothered in the least by a wrong pronoun here or there. It's a work of fiction.
Those that are easily offended might be in the wrong forum.

No one got offended here seriously... the dev just forgot to google a fraze that came out with.
Let me give you an old levd example from 50s-60s : A certain American brand (no advert here lets call it N) come out with its own mineral water in England while boldly sating that it is Full of spunk.
Or here is an other one: The good old Fiat Punto did not sell at all to males in a certain country. Guess why? Cause it meant tini diclet in that language.

 

[Smallfrie]

I want to state a fact about v0.5 update.
Stupid

 

[Kohlauf]

just posting this error from the shower routine screen - it doesn't break anything but still

 

[LordOfChangeGames]

just posting this error from the shower routine screen - it doesn't break anything but still
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Fixed in the current patch, your report also made me notice it used the wrong pool to generate the list, so that's also fixed. Thanks

 

[Kohlauf]

Well if you are OK with me posting errors I see...
I am doing the dance classes and see this miscalculation after the first couple of study sessions in the library.... I'll let you know if it impacts the course result

 

[Kohlauf]

Also the pink maid outfit form icoast.com doesn't qualify for the sissy maid job from gregchart.net

 

[LordOfChangeGames]

Well if you are OK with me posting errors I see...
I am doing the dance classes and see this miscalculation after the first couple of study sessions in the library.... I'll let you know if it impacts the course result

I always appreciate bug reports, help me get those issues ironed out real quick. I'll have to look into this issue in more details, seems like some weird overflow. If you still have the save file, could you send it my way for analysis?

Also the pink maid outfit form icoast.com doesn't qualify for the sissy maid job from gregchart.net

It was made by design, the pink maid dress being more in the cutesy maid café aesthetic, but it might be confusing, I'll have to think about what I'll do about this.