Full Dive Virtual Reality

[HentaiHerald]

Been thinking about full dive VR lately, I like to get excited about it every now and again even though I doubt it'll be around anytime soon. Thoughts? Do you guys think FDVR will be around in our lifetimes? Also Would you guys prefer the world looking exactly the same, or would you want animated worlds so you could hang out with anime girls?

Would you get a chip implant for FDVR? Or just helmet/container thing?

Side note, how the fuck do you get member status on this site? I've been a newbie for 5 years, guess it's based on posts/msgs.

 

[TheeSonus]

Based on messages, yeah.

I... genuinely have no clue if it'll be around during our lifetime. I certainly hope it would, it seems like a damn interesting concept. Personally, I'd lean towards more animated style worlds. I think I have enough of this one already, considering I'm living in it.

 

[HentaiHerald]

Based on messages, yeah.

I... genuinely have no clue if it'll be around during our lifetime. I certainly hope it would, it seems like a damn interesting concept. Personally, I'd lean towards more animated style worlds. I think I have enough of this one already, considering I'm living in it.

Agreed, personally not interested in it looking realistic, things would just look off to me. Like magic, think DBZ, imagine a real guy powering up or something, would look silly to me.

 

[Winterfire]

There's a guy on youtube which tries out different vn tech, and you can actually get a pretty good result from mixing many (highly expensive) gadgets.
The only issues are the lack of games, compatibility between all the different gadgets, and of course the prices. I do not think a full dive is necessarily any more fun than that, as long as those gadgets improve, unify and drop in price.

I'd say the only useful thing of a full dive would be having more freedom in a small space.

 

[HentaiHerald]

There's a guy on youtube which tries out different vn tech, and you can actually get a pretty good result from mixing many (highly expensive) gadgets.
The only issues are the lack of games, compatibility between all the different gadgets, and of course the prices. I do not think a full dive is necessarily any more fun than that, as long as those gadgets improve, unify and drop in price.

I'd say the only useful thing of a full dive would be having more freedom in a small space.

Are there gadgets that let you fully feel everything already? Porn industry would be going crazy for these things

 

[Winterfire]

Are there gadgets that let you fully feel everything already? Porn industry would be going crazy for these things

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And in these 4 months, new stuff has come out.
Clearly not doable in a smol home, with no money (even if prices drop), and nothing to unify all those technologies.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Forget about it for a couple hundred years at best.
Full dive requires more than just technology.

 

[HentaiHerald]

W

Forget about it for a couple hundred years at best.
Full dive requires more than just technology.

What else besides technology?

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

W

What else besides technology?

Knowledge for starters.
Before creating something you need to know how to do it, learning process is slow business.
Plus, it's not like humanity knows everything there is to know about human psyche. No, true full dive will not arrive anytime soon.
Various emulations though? Will have plenty of that, and those will also be contributing to further research.

 

[InteriorCrocodile]

With the rate that technology is expanding, I think we might be able to get there within our lifetime.
The thing you need to consider however, is whether or not it will be good enough to be thought of as more than a gimmick.
Like for example, todays VR headsets are cool, but they are way too expensive and limited to even come close to replacing anything we have now.

The first thing I thought of when I got my headset was not "wow this is so cool" it was "wow this is worse than I thought."
The visuals are a bit blurry around the edges, the controls were hard to get used to and didn't really feel all that intuitive, and as cool as being able to turn my head and see the things around me was, it was impossible to do anything complex without confusing the shit out of yourself.

Also, we never know how technology will pan out. Instead of plugging our minds into a computer, full dive might just be a room in your house with advanced sensors and projectors that have you experience the exact same thing but without the risk of death or fucking around with your brain.

 

[Nagozo]

Also, we never know how technology will pan out. Instead of plugging our minds into a computer, full dive might just be a room in your house with advanced sensors and projectors that have you experience the exact same thing but without the risk of death or fucking around with your brain.

This is the more realistic possibility, but I guess it's not really what we usually mean by 'full dive'. Highjacking our brains to make us experience some sort of coordinated hallucination seems like an extremely challenging task, that I don't expect to see tackled in my lifetime. There's a whole host of fields that needs to come together to realise something like that, and I'd expect there to be a lot of pushback (ethical concerns especially) even if it does begin to see the light.

 

[anne O'nymous]

With the rate that technology is expanding, I think we might be able to get there within our lifetime.

And at which rate technology is expanding according to you ?

The concept of Machine learning appeared in 1959, when

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applied it to his checkers software, and 63 years later we still don't understand how it works. As for the AI based on it, while I recognize that they provide bluffing results, I mostly found them bluffing because it's been near to 30 years that I witness them evolve.
As for Virtual reality, the first "modern" attempt was made by

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in 1962, while the first fly simulator in virtual reality was release in 1966 by

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. So, here again it's something more or less 60 years old. And here again I past the last 30 years hearing scientists and specialists promising us that it will become a reality "soon".

In the same time, at hardware level we are reaching the limits. Not in terms of computation power, but in terms of electric supply. If you want to use the last mainstream CPU and the last mainstream GPU together, you'll need at least a 1.000 W power bloc ; you should probably look for 1.500 W if you want a Rizen. And they wouldn't be enough to handle simulated full dive VR.

The first thing I thought of when I got my headset was not "wow this is so cool" it was "wow this is worse than I thought."

And it's the result of 60 years of technology evolution... Think about it, and consider again you statement regarding the expansion rate.

Also, we never know how technology will pan out. Instead of plugging our minds into a computer, full dive might just be a room in your house with advanced sensors and projectors that have you experience the exact same thing but without the risk of death or fucking around with your brain.

Then it would be a simulated full dive, not a full dive. Same for the stimulation suits.

 

[Deleted member 440241]

With the rate that technology is expanding, I think we might be able to get there within our lifetime.
The thing you need to consider however, is whether or not it will be good enough to be thought of as more than a gimmick.
Like for example, todays VR headsets are cool, but they are way too expensive and limited to even come close to replacing anything we have now.

The first thing I thought of when I got my headset was not "wow this is so cool" it was "wow this is worse than I thought."
The visuals are a bit blurry around the edges, the controls were hard to get used to and didn't really feel all that intuitive, and as cool as being able to turn my head and see the things around me was, it was impossible to do anything complex without confusing the shit out of yourself.

That's because today's "VR" is a gimmick. Corporations saw the demand for full dive VR, knew they couldn't supply it any time soon, and gave you an ugly set of goggles that they pretend is VR. It's like taking the handle off a segway and calling it a hoverboard. It doesn't hover but people wanted a hoverboard so someone found a way to pretend that's what they were selling us.

Also, we never know how technology will pan out. Instead of plugging our minds into a computer, full dive might just be a room in your house with advanced sensors and projectors that have you experience the exact same thing but without the risk of death or fucking around with your brain.

That's not full dive. What you're describing is a holodec, which isn't even VR it's technically AR.

Been thinking about full dive VR lately, I like to get excited about it every now and again even though I doubt it'll be around anytime soon. Thoughts? Do you guys think FDVR will be around in our lifetimes? Also Would you guys prefer the world looking exactly the same, or would you want animated worlds so you could hang out with anime girls?

Would you get a chip implant for FDVR? Or just helmet/container thing?

I doubt it will be around in our lifetime. 150-250 years is my estimate, but who knows how that'll pan out. If it did happen in our lifetime I wouldn't be getting any implants. Way too early in the process to let somebody stick computer chips in my brain. Also the worlds should be somewhat cartoony. Making things too close to the real world is just begging for people to lose their grip on reality. Assuming the tech allows for realistic worlds instead of creating an uncanny hellscape.

 

[HentaiHerald]

Who knows, maybe AI will blow up and we'll get super smart AI to create it for us, I for one welcome our AI overlords. Or alien overlords

 

[Nagozo]

Honestly, if it does happen, it wouldn't surprise me if AI was involved. Wouldn't particularly give me more confidence in the tech though, since that'd only mean the people developing have a less precise understanding of how (or why) it works.
Black box models are already a big issue right now, so I can only imagine they'd be a nightmare to deal with when it comes to such impactful neurological applications.