Further Development of games in the adult industry

[Alexander Krisnov]

TLDR: very big post...... u have been warned

Development of Games​

Firstly i would like to say that i am not a developer just someone who wants to be a dev and have been playing these kind of games for a long time.
Anyways some backtracking, I found F95 back in the days when KAT was alive..... i had been an adult gamer(i guess thats what we call ourself) before but that was relegated to flash or java games only. The RPGm games f95 provided , i came to love them.
And then KAT crashed and i found this humble adobe, now as the years went on so did the number of games : roundscape, kristis revenge, to name a few and that was a good thing more games means more fun, but the RPGm just came on coming and the genre became stale, it also became clear that RPGm games were not that great at player freedom, i mean yes u can move around and interact but that was only related to either NPCs or select houses , some did try to make the games interesting but the engine always limited them.
Then we have the VN which offer more freedom (in a sense) to dialog and story driven games. So what now? where will we go now ?
The question began to bug me , then i saw some devs make games in unity or unreal even use VR tech... and the goal was clear , we have to move to a new engine , now i know its hard to move from a simplified game engine like RPGm or RenPny . Also unity and unreal has a huge learning curve but with the recent leap in tech has allowed us to do much more we have 4K CG and smooth 120fps animations that are being made by artists , yes it takes time but the time is worth it .
In the 90's games were made out of sprites and 2d platforms then we saw doom most of us have played it that was a turning point and after 23 years we got DOOM 2016 compare those two side by side and see what a difference that is.
we need to do the same for this industry too we have the tools we have the technology and we have the talent, now i am not saying go around make a 3d RPG games hell i am not even saying go and make a 2d game most devs that do this s don't even have the time to make their own games but we can try ... after all PROGRESS is what any industry should strive to do and in this bloated DLC and microtransations labled relality progress for adult games would mean a lot.
If not for us but to show normal gaming industry what progress truly looks like..... with a kinky twist :tf:.
well this is alex krisnov . Hope u at least think about it......

 

[Alexander Krisnov]

Better get comfy

 

[xןʞ]

FUTHURE.

 

[Fasder]

Tried writing something, but I ended up re-writing like five times. It's just really hard to make a 3d game that holds up well. At least for the small independent developers we see here.

 

[greyelf]

I think one of the major hurdles that an independent developer will face when creating a 3D game is the initial cost of the assets (models) requires to build the visual component of the game, because generally the standard licence provided in packages download from companies like DAZ don't cover the assets being used in 3D run-times.

(I understand that some developers acquire 'free' copies of those assets but I believe that the asset owners/creators (and those that legally distribute them) may take more notice of developers using them in 3D run-time, based on the fact that they have created special licences covering such usage.)

 

[DarthSeduction]

I'm starting small, gonna make a few games in ren'py. However, I'm a writer first, a designer second. My real goal would be to find a team who had the time, skill, and dedication to make something on the scale of Life is Strange, only with explicit adult content. I think something like that is not only attainable, but a great way to advance adult gaming in the future. I come to porn games to get something I can't get from videos of strangers fucking. A story, and characters to be invested in. Other games will likely spring into existence that will do things their way, but the choice based story game will always reign supreme for me in terms of adult content.

 

[89tasker]

There has been a sudden explosion of adult games because the first generation of gamers raised on internet porn is finally joining the job market, and have money to spend.

Unfortunately, if the trend holds, it means porn will primarily be made into cell phone apps; probably emoji humping each other.

 

[Alexander Krisnov]

There has been a sudden explosion of adult games because the first generation of gamers raised on internet porn is finally joining the job market, and have money to spend.

Unfortunately, if the trend holds, it means porn will primarily be made into cell phone apps; probably emoji humping each other.

well we already have some andriod and IOS porn apps ..... and the VN ports so...

 

[DSSAlex]

I suspect the explosion of adult gaming in the last year has more to do with a couple specific games and Patreon turning a blind eye to them. It's a lot easier to get work done when there's money involved. I suspect the parameters of what game will be successful will change now that Patreon has got it's cataracts sorted out.

If there were some alternative funding model we might be able to get away from the cycle of monthly episodic releases. I don't think that's coming super short term, tho.

 

[Alexander Krisnov]

I suspect the explosion of adult gaming in the last year has more to do with a couple specific games and Patreon turning a blind eye to them. It's a lot easier to get work done when there's money involved. I suspect the parameters of what game will be successful will change now that Patreon has got it's cataracts sorted out.

If there were some alternative funding model we might be able to get away from the cycle of monthly episodic releases. I don't think that's coming super short term, tho.

i agree with ya this money and time are very crucial to a developer... i have only started to formulate a plan for my game and i can already see what problem i have to face, my development schedule is thereby in a 3-4 year mark.... as i am a one man developer and a beginner at that i can see that the patreon monetary structure aint gonna be good for both me and the gamers.... if i could have the something like in between kickstarter and patreon it would be very good

 

[Egglock]

2D/3D porn games have been around long since, it's mainly seen in the more developed studios. If we're talking about indie dev's than it's still a long while before that gets kicking. There's too many gears turning in the pipeline. The budget to get a small team going is probably not feasible, as you're looking at, hiring an artist this includes, the 3D modeler and or texturing. The rigger, the animator, sound designer, level designer, programmer. This can quickly add up to a very expensive team. Just imagine having one person make all the 3D asset for the game, you know how exhausting that would be? Let alone having the artist create textures for assets.

Though, I am curious as to how far the advancement in VR will get.

 

[Alexander Krisnov]

Just imagine having one person make all the 3D asset for the game,

u dont have to.... i am doing texturing for all the assets...in my game

 

[robbinrobbie]

Most games we see on this site are being made by one man operations that do it in their spare time. I think if the industry moves away from Renpy and RPGM, and we (the adult gamers) require Unity or Unreal then we'll see less new devs popping up.

 

[User_215882]

u dont have to.... i am doing texturing for all the assets...in my game
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If your game is based on 40k lore I will gladly round up sacrifices for Slannash to bless you with success and fortune.

 

[Egglock]

u dont have to.... i am doing texturing for all the assets...in my game

It's okay, the grass is greener on the other side.

 

[Alexander Krisnov]

Most games we see on this site are being made by one man operations that do it in their spare time. I think if the industry moves away from Renpy and RPGM, and we (the adult gamers) require Unity or Unreal then we'll see less new devs popping up.

i think a dev can create an unreal engine/unity game.... its just that it would take more time than say 2-3 months to make and show a demo for it....

 

[Joshua Tree]

I suspect the explosion of adult gaming in the last year has more to do with a couple specific games and Patreon turning a blind eye to them. It's a lot easier to get work done when there's money involved. I suspect the parameters of what game will be successful will change now that Patreon has got it's cataracts sorted out.

If there were some alternative funding model we might be able to get away from the cycle of monthly episodic releases. I don't think that's coming super short term, tho.

Don't know how viewable it is for a creator to use Paypal though. If you look at Avenger with is SOB/Big Kuyash, you been able to get those with the use of Paypal long before they went into the whole Patreon thing. I also followed some Patreon's that got kicked out of Patreon, (not related to creating adult games), they moved onto

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no idea how that Platform would work in regards of creating adult theme games though.

There is plenty of adult themed sites on internet that can be used to create awareness of your game and attract consumers/players.

In regard of Patreon, it seems a lot does misunderstand the purpose behind it, and think they subscribe to monthly content, when they actually does it to support to creator.

 

[DarthSeduction]

Don't know how viewable it is for a creator to use Paypal though. If you look at Avenger with is SOB/Big Kuyash, you been able to get those with the use of Paypal long before they went into the whole Patreon thing. I also followed some Patreon's that got kicked out of Patreon, (not related to creating adult games), they moved onto

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no idea how that Platform would work in regards of creating adult theme games though.

There is plenty of adult themed sites on internet that can be used to create awareness of your game and attract consumers/players.

In regard of Patreon, it seems a lot does misunderstand the purpose behind it, and think they subscribe to monthly content, when they actually does it to support to creator.

Dark Silver was talking to them, but I haven't heard whether or now they got back to them. I've heard they accept things, but I have also heard that their payment provider, stripe, isn't available everywhere and has a strict no adult content policy.

The best bet would be for a major player in adult content to decide to open up a patreon alternative for adult content providers. I've heard people suggest Pornhub, and for my two cents, that would be ideal. They have a payment provider that already allows their adult content, and they're a big enough player that they have a lot of leeway. Also, Pornhub's politics tend to be pro freedom of speech

 

[Alexander Krisnov]

Don't know how viewable it is for a creator to use Paypal though. If you look at Avenger with is SOB/Big Kuyash, you been able to get those with the use of Paypal long before they went into the whole Patreon thing. I also followed some Patreon's that got kicked out of Patreon, (not related to creating adult games), they moved onto

You must be registered to see the links

no idea how that Platform would work in regards of creating adult theme games though.

There is plenty of adult themed sites on internet that can be used to create awareness of your game and attract consumers/players.

In regard of Patreon, it seems a lot does misunderstand the purpose behind it, and think they subscribe to monthly content, when they actually does it to support to creator.

in regards to the patreon system i have been wondering about possible soulutions, well for now i can only speculate on
1.cutting the middle man and directly seeking any service that provides sales gateway like eCommerce websites or CCavenue
2.making a game which can be put on steam without any major red flags and the patch can be downloaded to get the adult scenes(what most big independent japanese h-rpg makers are doing rn)
well love to know what yall think

 

[DarthSeduction]

in regards to the patreon system i have been wondering about possible soulutions, well for now i can only speculate on
1.cutting the middle man and directly seeking any service that provides sales gateway like eCommerce websites or CCavenue
2.making a game which can be put on steam without any major red flags and the patch can be downloaded to get the adult scenes(what most big independent japanese h-rpg makers are doing rn)
well love to know what yall think

For me, if I was to do that I'd still probably need to run a go fund me or something to get the project off the ground. Also, I find that most of the japanese games are very light on the adult content. I don't see a game like Coceter Chronicles or Good Girl Gone Bad doing well without their adult content already implemented. Both of those games have great worldbuilding and story, but the point in both is sexual exploration of the MC. As a result it would just be mundane tasks to fill a day leading to a buildup that fades to black.

I really think our best bet is to find an alternative to patreon that works in the same way. I don't see getting rid of the middle man working either. No matter who is handling the transactions they're gonna want to know what for. Girls that want to cam but don't want a middleman have had their accounts shut down. It's the financial institutions themselves we have to fight. So what we need is a platform that has power, and already provides adult content.