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Skullking654

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are we going to turn the queen bitch Wanda into our maso harem pet? or are we just going to ruin he rep and then forget about her?
 

BisQDev

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I really like this game so far, but one thing I find very annoying is the fact that the save folder changes with each release (at least on Android, I don't know if it's the same on Windows).
It forces you to move your save files to the new location on every update.
Can you fix that ?
Thanks.
On windows there is no such problem, on android we unfortunately do not know how to fix it :( Maybe if someone knows about android versions will tell us, it would be cool.
 

harem.king

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We may well do that if the audience wants it badly enough. Although we don't think this scene has even a drop of the Ntr that everyone is so afraid of :D
I am not "afraid". I am sitting here enjoying myself with a game. And then something comes up which is gross to me / an anti fetish and suddenly I am not having a good time anymore.

Like, if a gay guy was watching gay porn and suddenly there was a sudden unexpected dick in vagina straight sex scene. They will lose their boner and stop enjoying themselves. Does that mean all gay men are "afraid" of vaginas?
Ntr will not be in the game, what you saw is not Ntr. Familiarise yourself with the genre better.
NTR lawyers would argue it does not count because the girl in question "isn't yours, yet".
(you do not seem to be pursuing her... but then the last update ends with you blackmailing her for ??? (to be continued) which seems to strongly imply sexual things will happen soon)

But... actual people playing the game don't really care about the semantics and lawyer definitions.
harem fans really don't want to peep at other dudes getting their dick sucked, even when it is technically legally not netorare.
netorare fans enjoy peeping at other dudes getting their dick sucked, even when it is technically legally not netorare.

This is not skyrim.
This is a game you play one handed.
About a dude who fucks his mom and sisters.
There are certain expectations for certain things to conform to sexual desires and fetishes.

I specifically did not use any weeb words to describe it though.
I just said the scene where a rando dude is getting a blowjob and you are forced to watch.
Fully describing the events instead of putting it into a singular word.

If it is absolutely necessary for the plot, then I would rather you just state with words "I recorded wanda sucking a drug dealers cock for some drugs" without actually showing us the scene. (or at least give us a choice between seeing the scene and reading the single sentence description)

But personally, since this is all an unrealistic fantasy to begin with, I would prefer to go a step further and have a fantasy where this was not integral to the plot.
could have easily just gotten her on camera buying the drugs. or selling drugs. No blowjob necessary.

And it would have gone down a lot easier if there was at least a choice to opt out.
 
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Belphegor007

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Aug 23, 2016
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I'm always find it odd when a random character will get a blowjob or sex scene easier than the MC.
Barely any sex content with the MC and instead we watch someone else get a blowjob.
I don't consider the scene NTR at the moment but if we are going have her have a route than I sure as fuck would count it as that plus I don't want to interact with her at all.
 

Belphegor007

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I am not "afraid". I am sitting here enjoying myself with a game. And then something comes up which is gross to me / an anti fetish and suddenly I am not having a good time anymore.

Like, if a gay guy was watching gay porn and suddenly there was a sudden unexpected dick in vagina straight sex scene. They will lose their boner and stop enjoying themselves. Does that mean all gay men are "afraid" of vaginas?

NTR lawyers would argue it does not count because the girl in question "isn't yours, yet".
(you do not seem to be pursuing her... but then the last update ends with you blackmailing her for ??? (to be continued) which seems to strongly imply sexual things will happen soon)

But... actual people playing the game don't really care about the semantics and lawyer definitions.
harem fans really don't want to peep at other dudes getting their dick sucked, even when it is technically legally not netorare.
netorare fans enjoy peeping at other dudes getting their dick sucked, even when it is technically legally not netorare.

This is not skyrim.
This is a game you play one handed.
About a dude who fucks his mom and sisters.
There are certain expectations for certain things to conform to sexual desires and fetishes.

I specifically did not use any weeb words to describe it though.
I just said the scene where a rando dude is getting a blowjob and you are forced to watch.
Fully describing the events instead of putting it into a singular word.

If it is absolutely necessary for the plot, then I would rather you just state with words "I recorded wanda sucking a drug dealers cock for some drugs" without actually showing us the scene. (or at least give us a choice between seeing the scene and reading the single sentence description)

But personally, since this is all an unrealistic fantasy to begin with, I would prefer to go a step further and have a fantasy where this was not integral to the plot.
could have easily just gotten her on camera buying the drugs. or selling drugs. No blowjob necessary.

And it would have gone down a lot easier if there was at least a choice to opt out.
I would question why there is now blackmail and drug dealers in what seemed like a furry harem game with incest.
I didn't really expect the game to go this route and the dev also says Wanda will have a submission path for her.
This is also why you never back anyone until you have a full idea of what a game will become.
 

BisQDev

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Feb 19, 2024
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I am not "afraid". I am sitting here enjoying myself with a game. And then something comes up which is gross to me / an anti fetish and suddenly I am not having a good time anymore.

Like, if a gay guy was watching gay porn and suddenly there was a sudden unexpected dick in vagina straight sex scene. They will lose their boner and stop enjoying themselves. Does that mean all gay men are "afraid" of vaginas?

NTR lawyers would argue it does not count because the girl in question "isn't yours, yet".
(you do not seem to be pursuing her... but then the last update ends with you blackmailing her for ??? (to be continued) which seems to strongly imply sexual things will happen soon)

But... actual people playing the game don't really care about the semantics and lawyer definitions.
harem fans really don't want to peep at other dudes getting their dick sucked, even when it is technically legally not netorare.
netorare fans enjoy peeping at other dudes getting their dick sucked, even when it is technically legally not netorare.

This is not skyrim.
This is a game you play one handed.
About a dude who fucks his mom and sisters.
There are certain expectations for certain things to conform to sexual desires and fetishes.

I specifically did not use any weeb words to describe it though.
I just said the scene where a rando dude is getting a blowjob and you are forced to watch.
Fully describing the events instead of putting it into a singular word.

If it is absolutely necessary for the plot, then I would rather you just state with words "I recorded wanda sucking a drug dealers cock for some drugs" without actually showing us the scene. (or at least give us a choice between seeing the scene and reading the single sentence description)

But personally, since this is all an unrealistic fantasy to begin with, I would prefer to go a step further and have a fantasy where this was not integral to the plot.
could have easily just gotten her on camera buying the drugs. or selling drugs. No blowjob necessary.

And it would have gone down a lot easier if there was at least a choice to opt out.

Your position is clear to me, giving the option to hide this scene will not be a problem, we will work on it in the next update
 

BisQDev

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Feb 19, 2024
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I would question why there is now blackmail and drug dealers in what seemed like a furry harem game with incest.
I didn't really expect the game to go this route and the dev also says Wanda will have a submission path for her.
This is also why you never back anyone until you have a full idea of what a game will become.

There are a lot of characters in the game at the moment, and that's not all of them yet, a bit more are planned. Accordingly, for each character, the story of interaction with the gg will be completely different. Everyone will be able to find something interesting.
 

harem.king

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Aug 16, 2023
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Your position is clear to me, giving the option to hide this scene will not be a problem, we will work on it in the next update
Thank you.
You know, I have been thinking about it, and part of what bothered me here is how this completely alters the nature of Wanda as an LI.

Wanda was shown thus far as a bratty bully spoiled princess. Who was spoiled rotten by wealth and familial position which she leverages to act as a bully. even personally humiliating MC and his sister, as such a perfect target for some punishment.
10/10, hits so many buttons. please let us apply some correction to that bratty princess.

But now we found out that Wanda is also a drug addicted whore, literally selling her body for a hit.
This makes her extremely unappealing.
This kind of person makes me think of the "faces of drugs" campaign. In just a few years of drugs her looks and mind will be ruined by drugs. No willpower to her (making her less appealing conquest). And who knows what diseases she got from drugs.

If I could make a suggestion, I think that instead of the current situation of
> You follow Wanda and film her:
> sucking cock for drugs

You instead have
> You follow Wanda and film her:
> (optionally) sucking her boyfriends cock
> then buying drugs. Maybe drug dealer tries to pressure her for sex and she laughes at him. "I am not one of your drugged up sluts. These are not even for me". he caves and sells it for cash.
> then re-selling the drugs she bought... maybe for favors instead of money. (part of her "network")

Such an altered scenario still hits similar notes:
1. you got blackmail on her.
2. still peeping at her sucking someone else's cock (really not my thing... but I am trying to be constructive and impartial here. my personal preference was if this wasn't even a thing).

But now you got that blackmail and blowjob recording in a way that does NOT turn her into a drug addicted whore.
It does however up her "evil bitch" factor... which means more desire to "punish" her.
 
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Soulpuppet

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Ntr will not be in the game, what you saw is not Ntr. Familiarise yourself with the genre better.
Doesn't matter. I said you're dipping your toes in to see if you can get away with pushing the envelop. Nobody wants to see someone who is going to be a love interest, which you confirmed, giving someone else a blowjob. I don't need to familiarize anything better.
 

Belphegor007

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Aug 23, 2016
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I don't really like or trust the dev now.
From their patreon.

"Guys, we see some complaints from a certain group of players regarding the scene with Wanda and OH NO! Big and terrible NTR content. First of all, we want to let you know right away that this game is not aimed at NTR content at all and will never be. Believe us, if we wanted to create an NTR game, you would have understood this from the very first update, this is a completely different direction. The scene with Wanda is not NTR by any means, since Wanda is not the main character's partner, is not the subject of his adoration or at least something that would hint at some feelings, which is what the NTR genre is built on. Let us remind you that in reality people have sex, not all the women in the world fuck you alone, this is normal. The scene with Wanda is necessary for the plot, since there will be an interesting line of corruption with her."

Also the is getting a route so by this sites rules it counts as NTR despite being not real NTR because she has a route.
Also the dev being extremely passive aggressive and combative is a great way to make people like you.
I wanted incest and a harem but now their is a drug addicted whore who has a domination route if you don't understand why people really wouldn't enjoy this revelation than maybe think about what the early content implied.
Also I sure love random characters getting sex while the MC just jerks off constantly

"Let us remind you that in reality people have sex, not all the women in the world fuck you alone, this is normal."
Everyone knows this and that not all girls will be virgins but you don't have to show other people have sex or describe how they got fucked by other people.
 
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morty2301

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guys, I get not liking NTR or anything like that but this getting kinda aggressive with the criticism. Like they even gave in and said they were gonna include an option to hide that scandalous content for that very short scene, yet there's still people not letting it go that the game may or may not have NTR saying people shouldn't trust the dev over such a short scene
 

Belphegor007

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guys, I get not liking NTR or anything like that but this getting kinda aggressive with the criticism. Like they even gave in and said they were gonna include an option to hide that scandalous content for that very short scene, yet there's still people not letting it go that the game may or may not have NTR saying people shouldn't trust the dev over such a short scene
I was going to be done with it but the patreon post pissed me off.
Like no shit real life is different.
I also don't care about ntr games as people can play what they want, but I do care when games add them in later plus I dislike devs just saying you are wrong.
 
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Soulpuppet

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I don't really like or trust the dev now.
From their patreon.

"Guys, we see some complaints from a certain group of players regarding the scene with Wanda and OH NO! Big and terrible NTR content. First of all, we want to let you know right away that this game is not aimed at NTR content at all and will never be. Believe us, if we wanted to create an NTR game, you would have understood this from the very first update, this is a completely different direction. The scene with Wanda is not NTR by any means, since Wanda is not the main character's partner, is not the subject of his adoration or at least something that would hint at some feelings, which is what the NTR genre is built on. Let us remind you that in reality people have sex, not all the women in the world fuck you alone, this is normal. The scene with Wanda is necessary for the plot, since there will be an interesting line of corruption with her."

Also the is getting a route so by this sites rules it counts as NTR despite being not real NTR because she has a route.
Also the dev being extremely passive aggressive and combative is a great way to make people like you.
I wanted incest and a harem but now their is a drug addicted whore who has a domination route if you don't understand why people really wouldn't enjoy this revelation than maybe think about what the early content implied.
Also I sure love random characters getting sex while the MC just jerks off constantly

"Let us remind you that in reality people have sex, not all the women in the world fuck you alone, this is normal."
Everyone knows this and that not all girls will be virgins but you don't have to show other people have sex or describe how they got fucked by other people.
Yep very untrustworthy and very passive aggressive. Makes a soon to be LI suck some dick. Says hey everyone doesn't just have sex with you in this incest harem game, we got to make a plot were the MC just jacks off while other characters get some action. Also your mom talks about her BF's with huge dicks with you, your sister is a cam whore and now another LI is out there sucking and fucking and we get to see it! Exciting! Top notch Harem game! Talk about a dev that has no idea what harem lovers enjoy.
 

morty2301

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Maybe because you guys aren't just a friendly suggestion something that should be done with this game anymore or at least it doesn't feel like it, it feels like your more demanding that they have to do something about that scene from the game or there will be consequences in an aggressive manner no less.
 
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