Games isn't a good media format for porn

[eroGio]

And it do it way more than with the said old porn movies, because you can take all the time you want for this build up. Even games that are pure fuck feast tend to provide a pretense and make the character meet each others.

Quality episodic TV content has made it hard to even watch normal movies now. There's only so much you can do with only 2 hours of screentime. They just end up feeling shallow. I think games are doing the same thing to actual porn.

 

[kintarodev]

I see it the medium with most potential to create a sense of self-immersion. The key is having all the necessary skills either individually or within a group: game designing, writing, coding, music direction, art direction, drawing, modelling, and so on. Eventually this make it also the medium with the highest costs production-wise.

Tricky.

 

[hakarlman]

I've never been a fan of porn games and I want to understand why people enjoy it.

I've come to think about this with the artist Animopron's game currectly in WIP.
He is developing a third person action game kind of like Tomb Raider. With this example in mind, I don't understand how can porn and games work well together.
While playing porn games do you hold your d*ck/p*ssy in one hand and your keyboard or mouse in the other ?
The goal of porn is to jerk off so how are you supposed to do it whilst playing a game ?
I understand that there will be cutscene with only porn and no action required but then why bothering making a game if the best part is the movie part ?

The only argument I can think of to counter my point is : 'Playing the character in between cuscence could create better immersion'
So I guess the playing part has to be separated from the cuscenes part. For me switching between these two parts would break the immersion.
It's like trying to merge two medias in one it doesn't stick together.

I can understand VR "games" porn has long as it is close to a first person film. You benefit from a better immersion with VR and upgrades from a classic video.
Which complete my point that only films/book/images --> Media that don't require actions are great for porn.

I think video games are working well only thanks to cutscenes part. Otherwise how would you imagine a porn game that is action only ?

I understand your concern. I agree with the need for one handed optimization for porn games. It sounds like nearly all the porn games you've tried weren't programmed with one handed optimization; allowing one to play the entire game with the left or right hand.

The good news is that there are game with one hand optimization.
- NLT Media; has about 15,000 patreons; they boast 1-hand optimization right on their website.
- Wild Life Single Player - AdeptusSteve considered it, but it wasn't promised. He saw how it can be convenient, and he pulls in around $100,000.00 a month in revenue.

As of 2022-2023, big game devs are starting to see the importance of 1-hand optimization. NLT Media was ahead of the curve.
By 2030, every porn game should have one handed optimization built into it. That's the future.

RPG Maker games can be played left or right handed, making them optimized for one handed game play mostly already.

Ren'py games do not have one handed optimization built in already. I talked to the creator of Ren'py a few years back, and he scoffed at the idea, but he has no clue how big the porn game industry is now compared to years ago. Whether he wants to or not, one hand gameplay optimization is coming to Ren'py.

(Anyone who reads this, don't respond to me looking to "be right", respond to me with the mentality of genuinely want to find what's right. I don't give a fuck if I'm right, or you're right, I only give a fuck about finding what's right, to make a better product, to make the end user happy, that's all I give a shit about. So if you make a good point, I'll agree with it, because it will help me. )

 

[Ying Ko]

With this example in mind, I don't understand how can porn and games work well together.

It was just simple question in my mind.

 

[Meaning Less]

Ren'py games do not have one handed optimization built in already. I talked to the creator of Ren'py a few years back, and he scoffed at the idea, but he has no clue how big the porn game industry is now compared to years ago. Whether he wants to or not, one hand gameplay optimization is coming to Ren'py.

Every RPGM and RENPY game can be played 1-handed by default, unless the dev changed the basic controllers or added more without considering alternate layouts, so I'm not sure what you are talking about here.

This concept is already so old that it comes baked into game engines and people don't question about it because everyone knows how to use it, except for some people completely new into the scene like OP...

 

[AlternateDreams]

Most people enjoy the arousal and build-up of games, the deeper immersion and psychological connection with the characters, world and story, or simply the gameplay itself in some cases!

I think this is a really good summary.

I understand your concern. I agree with the need for one handed optimization for porn games. It sounds like nearly all the porn games you've tried weren't programmed with one handed optimization; allowing one to play the entire game with the left or right hand.

The good news is that there are game with one hand optimization.
- NLT Media; has about 15,000 patreons; they boast 1-hand optimization right on their website.
- Wild Life Single Player - AdeptusSteve considered it, but it wasn't promised. He saw how it can be convenient, and he pulls in around $100,000.00 a month in revenue.

As of 2022-2023, big game devs are starting to see the importance of 1-hand optimization. NLT Media was ahead of the curve.
By 2030, every porn game should have one handed optimization built into it. That's the future.

RPG Maker games can be played left or right handed, making them optimized for one handed game play mostly already.

Ren'py games do not have one handed optimization built in already. I talked to the creator of Ren'py a few years back, and he scoffed at the idea, but he has no clue how big the porn game industry is now compared to years ago. Whether he wants to or not, one hand gameplay optimization is coming to Ren'py.

(Anyone who reads this, don't respond to me looking to "be right", respond to me with the mentality of genuinely want to find what's right. I don't give a fuck if I'm right, or you're right, I only give a fuck about finding what's right, to make a better product, to make the end user happy, that's all I give a shit about. So if you make a good point, I'll agree with it, because it will help me. )

At first I thought I understood what you meant by "one handed optimization" but I'm not sure now (maybe it's a language problem because it's not my mother tongue)
I thought you meant "games that can be played with one hand".
If this is the case then most Ren'py games are playable with only a mouse.

Now for games where you move your character in a 3d environment, I wonder what's the best solution to solve this problem?
I think adding a gallery is an easy way to solve it partially : this way you play the game with both hands and if at some point you want to fap you just use the gallery.

But making the game playable with one hand... I think some games propose a way for your character to move with only a mouse (I think I saw this in Illusion Games). Like you just hold the left/right click to move forward and move the mouse to turn.

Or maybe by adding a "pathfinding" option where you could play a simplified version of the game where you choose the next NPC to talk to in a menu and your character go there by himself (or even simpler : you just skip the walking and teleport the player near the NPC)?

It's an important subject but I guess it deviates a bit from the original topic.

 

[Meaning Less]

Now for games where you move your character in a 3d environment, I wonder what's the best solution to solve this problem?

Indeed, only actual 3D environment games are the ones that might not support 1-handed interactions by default, because they often require the mouse to look around.

But as a coomer I do have a personal solution even for those, you can either:
a)use a mouse with extra side buttons, that's what I do in most cases since you can often move around with "w" alone, plus another button to interact/attack, depending on the game you might need more buttons on your mouse.
b)use a controller if the games supports it, controllers have all buttons close by so it is pretty doable to one hand in exchange of some dexterity.

 

[tanstaafl]

 

[ChadChan3D]

I see it the medium with most potential to create a sense of self-immersion. The key is having all the necessary skills either individually or within a group: game designing, writing, coding, music direction, art direction, drawing, modelling, and so on. Eventually this make it also the medium with the highest costs production-wise.

Tricky.

It really is a multi-disciplinary artform.

This thread brings to light that adult games are about adult experiences.

If you want a fap, videos are quicker. If you want a story, comics are easier reads. So adult games truly live in a niche where immersion, build-up and a feeling of self-direction are important.

 

[ChadChan3D]

Ren'py games do not have one handed optimization built in already. I talked to the creator of Ren'py a few years back, and he scoffed at the idea, but he has no clue how big the porn game industry is now compared to years ago. Whether he wants to or not, one hand gameplay optimization is coming to Ren'py.

Is Renpy not already a one-handed game engine, given its nature as a "click through slides" VN maker?

 

[tanstaafl]

Is Renpy not already a one-handed game engine, given its nature as a "click through slides" VN maker?

Not only is it one-handed, it allows the ability to switch hands comfortably. Space or left click to progress.