Games that are rated low but are actually pretty good/great

[SteelyDan14]

I've never seen a porn game above a 3/10 story-wise, and on average it's a 1. Porn novels are hard to write because you have to be generally sparing with it. Action movies don't consist of solely 2 hours of people getting killed. To be fair though, most normal video games don't make good stories.

I almost always steer clear of visual novels due to how bad with gameplay/interaction they are. Your choices matter less than in a choose-your-own-adventure book, secrets consist of a single pixel that you must click for part of a series of renders, and the minigames are just a bunch of quicktime events. Gameplay should come first, otherwise it's not much of a game. Granted, few people know how to 3D model, fewer write, and even fewer create and make games.

It is hard to find good quality overall even in VNs. There are a ton of crappy VNs out there... but are also some really good ones. Granted, you have to be willing to be engaged into the story so if you are just looking for fapping then the good VNs are probably not going to do it for you, but there are serious stories with limited content and there are corruption/crazy stories with a ton of content. It's like the sandbox games... just because there are a lot out there that are horrible, there are some that are pretty good.

At the end of the day, I think there is something for everyone, but we are not all going to agree. That's why I think it's not fair to slam people (in general, I am not talking about you specifically) who like VNs or Sandbox or Unity or RAGS or whatever. We all like different things and one is not necessarily better than the other. Especially considering all of the different kinks out there. For example, I automatically steer clear of Loli, incest and femdom, but I have nothing against those folks who do like them.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

I am here to game.
If you just want a story go watch or read porn.

Kind of the ultimate pleb take to tell everybody who enjoys visual novels to "just watch porn lol." It's the most popular type of adult game for a reason. The amount of people who want gameplay besides dialogue choices is a tiny minority.

 

[Deleted member 229118]

Kind of the ultimate pleb take to tell everybody who enjoys visual novels to "just watch porn lol." It's the most popular type of adult game for a reason. The amount of people who want gameplay besides dialogue choices is a tiny minority.

Your point?

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

Your point?

Complaining about no gameplay in adult games is equivalent to whining that not every game is about your niche fetish. It's cool if you're into that, but the majority of people don't want that and it's ridiculous to expect differently.

 

[obibobi]

This.
And i hate it.
I am here to game.
If you just want a story go watch or read porn.

This is one of the dumbest comments on this site. Porn games are all about the story, they are just called games as a throwback, you sure as fuck don't watch porn for story.

 

[obibobi]

The game should be judged on its own merits, not on the amount of content it's gotten in the past year or whatever else. You're rating the game, not the dev.

Can't fully agree with you there, build time can factor in, I now completely ignore 2 games I would have once supported, games that would have been in my top 5, now I wouldn't even play them for free. I wrote a review once that factored that in, that recommends the game if you've never played it before but that for existing players its a bust.

The future of a game is part of it.

 

[Meaning Less]

Complaining about no gameplay in adult games is equivalent to whining that not every game is about your niche fetish. It's cool if you're into that, but the majority of people don't want that and it's ridiculous to expect differently.

You probably missed the point.

Most people that look for games aren't going to vns and posting reviews that they lacks gameplay, they just don't play those games in the first place as it is easy to distinguish vns from games (there is a huge [VN] prefix in them).

The whiners are the ones going to GAME threads and complaining they aren't VNs. They completely ignore the lack of [VN] prefix and go on to complain they are not VNs or Kinetic Novels... Like what?

There is just a huge number of people that have no idea how to read tags and prefixes.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

You probably missed the point.

Idk, did I? I wasn't talking to "most people that look for games," I specifically responded to somebody saying "If you just want a story go watch or read porn." If you prefer games with actual gameplay, that's your thing and it's fine, but telling people they should "just watch porn lol" because they like VNs is just cringe.

 

[Meaning Less]

I wasn't talking to "most people that look for games," I specifically responded to somebody saying "If you just want a story go watch or read porn."

But that was a response to the main issue posed by OP, which is that lots of oblivious VN enthusiasts keep sinking the score of decent games with redundant reviews.

Whenever there is a game tagged with sandbox you usually see lots of 1 star reviews saying in a nutshell "I don't like sandbox".

I mean, you shouldn't be playing games with the sandbox tag if you don't like sandbox... Or at least stick to the ones also tagged with [VN] because those will have limited sandbox.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

But that was a response to the main issue posed by OP, which is that lots of oblivious VN enthusiasts keep sinking the score of decent games with redundant reviews.

What? That's not what the thread was about at all.

Whenever there is a game tagged with sandbox you usually see lots of 1 star reviews saying in a nutshell "I don't like sandbox".

How surprising. 98% of sandbox "games" are dogshit. That has nothing to do with liking sandbox or not. I can take it or leave it, it's just that most devs are way too shit to make a decent sandbox game.

 

[Meaning Less]

it's just that most devs are way too shit to make a decent sandbox game.

Or have you considered that there might be also a huge number of people that enjoy those "dogshit" sandbox games which is why devs keep making them? You are basically just doing what you accused the other user of doing...

Not everyone likes the same stuff, it is just a matter of knowing what you are looking for. Like you mentioned if to you 98% of them are shit then you obviously should be avoiding the sandbox tag as well.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

Or have you considered that there might be also a huge number of people that enjoy those "dogshit" sandbox games which is why devs keep making them? You are basically just doing what you accused the other user of doing...

There's a difference between disliking a genre and recognizing that a dev made a bad version of it. Devs "keep making them" because a) they think it's popular and b) they are incompetent first time devs, of course their sandbox is going to be shit.

 

[Meaning Less]

There's a difference between disliking a genre and recognizing that a dev made a bad version of it.

But lets face it, if to you 98% are bad, then you for sure dislike the genre... the 2% you like are the exception and probably not what someone looking for sandbox would like in the first place.

a) they think it's popular
b) they are incompetent first time devs, of course their sandbox is going to be shit.

And why would they assume (a) is true out of thin air? Unless of course their favorite games are sandboxes in which case it would explain why they are also making (a) exactly the way the like it...

And if they are incompetent first time devs, why are they spending the extra trouble of creating a sandbox which is a lot harder to implement?

Both statement sounds a bit contradictory to me.

 

[Canto Forte]

Everyone should DL and play the Arkham Asylum Demo, still around some corners of the net.
That small preview to the actual game features more action and more gaming and more cutscenes than full completed ”VN”s or ”Games” we get around here.

Many a small game that are completed make for small fun bites to make for a happy gaming session.

 

[Deleted member 229118]

Complaining about no gameplay in adult games is equivalent to whining that not every game is about your niche fetish. It's cool if you're into that, but the majority of people don't want that and it's ridiculous to expect differently.

Complaining about no gameplay in games is the equivant of whining not every game is my niche?

You do know that games need gameplay to be games right?
Now you can argue that visual novels arent games(something i agree with)
But nothing i said was wrong.
There are porn stories i read and porn movies i watch with plot that was way better then 99% of the visual novel crap they keep putting out.

Most people that look for games aren't going to vns and posting reviews that they lacks gameplay, they just don't play those games in the first place as it is easy to distinguish vns from games

I coudnt have said it better myself.

This is one of the dumbest comments on this site. Porn games are all about the story, they are just called games as a throwback, you sure as fuck don't watch porn for story.

Backroom facials, hypnotrick, bareback studio's, mcstories, an archive of our own, Hanime.tv, etc.
All these disagree with you.

There is a simple fact that visual novel fanatic's want to denied in my experiance.
That porn stories are accauly better written then visual novels who are with a very few execption all shit.

 

[nulnil]

Porn games are all about the story.

Visual novels are not games. You clearly need to go play Alien Quest Eve, Degrees of Lewdity, or any other actual porn game. Would you consider a choose-your-own adventure book a game? What a great game for family night, huh? Exactly.

A (video) game needs a gameplay loop, as vague as that is, to be considered a game. Go fight monsters, complete puzzles, shoot the bad guys, ect. VN's have no real gameplay, or even interaction. Most "choices" in VN's boil down to staring at a girl's ass or not. No, the one-off mini-games in VN's don't give it gameplay either.

The reason VN's even have good ratings is because people who want gameplay don't go in and vote it down because that's stupid. It's like going into a futanari game and then complaining about it. But then you have the people jump in and downvote games that have gameplay because you can "just go view the gallery LOL". Wow, it's almost like I wanted to play a game.

 

[Paco Loco]

Lately I've been trying some games that have had low ratings and found that I enjoy them quite a bit. Usually I realize the low rating has to do with single issue things, such as a lack of animation, or the inclusion of some (usually avoidable) fetish that pissed a group of people off. What are some examples of games that are rated low, but are actually quite fun if you're able to look past the low reviews?

I'll start off with one that had me hooked for a bit. Admittedly I'm a sucker for grindy games that slowly release their H-content by means of gradual corruption of the LIs, very similar to how trainers operate.

Room for Rent - https://f95zone.to/threads/room-for-rent-v16-beta-celavie-group.33328/

Goddamn can this game get frustrating, and the threads loosen the further you go into the game, but I find myself unable to pull away from the grind and always craving the next step up in corruption. I would call this a game I enjoyed, despite it not being a "good" game because of its anti-fun mechanics.

I don't know if those games fits in your criteria, but I think there are several games are good enough to deserve better ratings:

- New Coral City (VN) - It is not a regular VN, far from it. Even being the classical 'straight man trying to fuck anything that moves', it is complex and full of options, branchs and potential LIs.

- Long Road Home (VN) - It is a classical harem VN with a biker gangs story. Quite enjoyable and underrated.

- Khan: Vae Victis (VN) - Conquer, ravish, breed - If you want to throw the rules out the window and be the king of all pussies, this game is for you. Totally underrated.

- Lisa (RPGM) - One of the few rpgm games I still play. Full of lewd scenes and enjoyable. There is a unofficial Renpy version for who doens't like the RPGM enviroment. Seriously underrated front of another female MCs VNs.

- Casey's Fall (VN) - Story of a potentially hardcore exhibitionist girl on a dystopian scenario. If you like girls who doesn't look as a porn actresses (fuckin' balloon tits and else), you may like it. Completely underrated.