Gay's limits in games

[Higurashika]

Hi, folks. Suddenly I realized that I don't understand gay people's limits and the perception of the opposite sex. For example, what are limits for lesbian: can she give handjob? Blowjob? Is her red line a romance and kissing but she doesn't mind just sex (at least in threesome)? Or she will never touch cock?

I mean, what gay people dislike in opposite sex? Is it only about emotions or genitals and bodies too? I'd like to understand details to make lesbian MC in my games more real.

 

[Meaning Less]

Just evaluate your feelings the other way around, if you are heterosexual how far would you go with someone of the same sex?

But even so different people are going to have different lines, that's just how sexuality works.

 

[Count Morado]

Hi, folks. Suddenly I realized that I don't understand gay people's limits and the perception of the opposite sex. For example, what are limits for lesbian: can she give handjob? Blowjob? Is her red line a romance and kissing but she doesn't mind just sex (at least in threesome)? Or she will never touch cock?

I mean, what gay people dislike in opposite sex? Is it only about emotions or genitals and bodies too? I'd like to understand details to make lesbian MC in my games more real.

And you're going to philosophize on sexual preference on a site that is overwhelmingly biological males who identify as men and a majority who consider themselves heterosexual, some who enjoy watching two women intimate moments - damn the reality?

You know ... this is a simplification, but I assume that based upon how you are asking, you consider yourself as mostly/completely attracted to the opposite sex and gender. Ask yourself what your limit is on having sexual intimacy with a person of your gender or sex -- and you'll have your answer for someone who is on the opposite end of the spectrum as yourself.

That said, it is a spectrum. The answer to all of your questions are "depends on the person."

If you want to write lesbian characters that are more real - build friendships with women who prefer sex with other women. Read works by lesbian writers. Watch lesbian movies, tv shows, and plays/musicals which are created by lesbian artists. At the minimum, play adult games by lesbian creators and watch adult movies created by studios who are devoted to doing it right for representation of sexuality.

 

[Higurashika]

Just evaluate your feelings the other way around, if you are heterosexual how far would you go with someone of the same sex?

Hmmm. Is it really so simple?

Read works by lesbian writers. Watch lesbian movies, tv shows, and plays/musicals which are created by lesbian artists.

It's pointless as they mostly are about love toward the same sex. I've never met in lesbian romance info about how they see males. Exept of "i don't feel anything".

Ask yourself what your limit is on having sexual intimacy with a person of your gender or sex -- and you'll have your answer for someone who is on the opposite end of the spectrum as yourself.

Why I do think that's not exaclty like this: your body has physical and mental reaction on opposite sex. If you're gay, you have mental reaction on the same sex, but no physical (by this i mean no arousal, but hormonal answer). That's why we can't compare reactions so straight between gay and straight people. But I'd like to hear their thoughts, not straight people assumptions.

 

[Count Morado]

It's pointless as they mostly are about love toward the same sex. I've never met in lesbian romance info about how they see males. Exept of "i don't feel anything".

Then you are not doing due diligence in your research. There are a ton of studies, memoirs, etc. Again, sexuality is not an Either/Or process - with absolutes on the ends, but the vast majority of people of all sexes and genders live and love somewhere between.

If you're gay, you have mental reaction on the same sex, but no physical (by this i mean no arousal, but hormonal answer).

You are overemphasizing pheromones, as well as the patriarchal concept of the urge most/all women have to reproduce.

 

[Higurashika]

You are overemphasizing pheromones

You don't know the difference between hormones and pheromones, do you? That's why I can't rely on your words in this discussion as you're simplifying things in wrong way.

 

[Count Morado]

You don't know the difference between hormones and pheromones, do you? That's why I can't rely on your words in this discussion as you're simplifying things in wrong way.

No, I know what I mean and I do know the difference. Hence why I brought up the patriarchal concept of a woman's hormonal urge to procreate. What I'm trying to figure out is where you are getting your information from - because you are presenting ideas that are over 40 years out of date in terms of human sexuality - and has very traditional-based views towards LGBTQIA sexuality. It appears you are attempting to validate your belief that all women have some level of attraction to men, but that is not the case. It is a spectrum.

 

[moskis22]

Those limits are unclear even for heterosexuals, even more for gay's...
I read that women are more open towars things like kissing other women, and men not
I don't know for sure if it is true, but i think it is

 

[Higurashika]

No, I know what I mean and I do know the difference.

Yet I see that you have no idea about it. If a man touches a woman's breast, the body begins to produce progesterone, if a woman does the same, progesterone is not produced. That is hormonal answer of our body that doesn't depent on our sexuality. Because it is part of a natural mechanism that aims to bring females and males closer together. It exists out of our sexuality.

very traditional-based views towards LGBTQIA sexuality

Please, stop assuming about their sexuality if you're not one of them. Because what I see that you're a straight male who tries to convince me that you know what gay people feel. Am I wrong?

Those limits are unclear even for heterosexuals, even more for gay's...

I don't want to dig deep, it's not my goal. I just want to understand how many people that choose gay route will ignore straight sex activities (lets call it like this) and why.

 

[anne O'nymous]

I've never met in lesbian romance info about how they see males. Exept of "i don't feel anything".

Wait, someone here haven't read a single one of Ava's angry rants ?

As for the "I don't feel anything", isn't it explicit enough for you ?
If a guy can't get hard when facing another guy, because he's heterosexual and not gay, doesn't this explicitly imply that he also have absolutely no sexual interest for guys ? Same for girls that, to quote Ava, "would stay Sahara dry" face to another girl ?

As to answer your question, the limits for a lesbian are relatively clear: If it have a dick, then she'll not touch it, period.
There's straight women who are bi-curious and can french kissing another girl, caress her, possibly suck her nipples (after all, every breastfeed girl did it before, it's not necessarily sexual), and possibly go as far as fingering her. But there's way less lesbians that are straight curious. It's something that mostly only happen in porn and, if she isn't bisexual, the girl will earn more just to touch the dick, that you'll earn working a full year.

But like I'm a straight cis white male, I'll summon the resident lesbian, she'll answer better than me, and correct me if needed. Avaron1974

 

[Higurashika]

Wait, someone here haven't read a single one of Ava's angry rants ?

No. But maybe I should give it a run.

As to answer your question, the limits for a lesbian are relatively clear: If it have a dick, then she'll not touch it, period.

Mb I explained it not correctly. Because I see that my point is unclear. I need the opinion about details such as would a lesbian give a blowjob for a bet? Or is it too much for her? Because, again, I can understand when a guy can't kiss anpother guy even for a bet or a money. But I find it hard to believe that a woman can't touch a man/or vise versa because of sexuality. Do I see it totally wrong maybe?

 

[Deleted member 229118]

Mb I explained it not correctly. Because I see that my point is unclear. I need the opinion about details such as would a lesbian give a blowjob for a bet? Or is it too much for her? Because, again, I can understand when a guy can't kiss anpother guy even for a bet or a money. But I find it hard to believe that a woman can't touch a man/or vise versa because of sexuality. Do I see it totally wrong maybe?

Everyone is different.
One might because of her pride or ego.
One might out of fear.
One might refuse.

It depends on the person in question.
None would enjoy it but money+desperation+fear make great motivators.

For example:
You could pay me a million to kiss a guy and all that would happen is you being murdered for even suggesting it.
Now pay me to break a sissy in.
That is different.
You still end up dead but i would consider it for 5 seconds just because i like breaking people.

So motivation matters a lot more then sexualty.
After all you dont need to like it.
You just need to do it.
And with the right motivation a lot of people will do it.

 

[Avaron1974]

It's pointless as they mostly are about love toward the same sex. I've never met in lesbian romance info about how they see males. Exept of "i don't feel anything".

Genuine question, why would lesbian romance show you how they feel about males?

Males have no place in lesbian romance.

As for the longer version, it is a lot deeper than "I don't feel anything" but that is pretty much what it boils down to basically. I don't find men attractive at all. I can tell when a man is good looking and a lot of men are but it does nothing for me.

I know there are some rather idiotic lesbians around that run around yelling about how much they hate men and they are repulsed by them but that's not the case for me or them if they were really honest.

I find men rather pleasant to talk to, I tend to get along with most men I meet as they are able to have banter where a lot of women can't and I love banter.

I've always found femininity to be beautiful. I'm drawn to it. I just don't find men sexually or romantically attractive, they do nothing for me.

As for straight sex scenes, it's dependant on the scene and the people/characters taking part.

A lot of the time the focus is on the woman and I do enjoy seeing a hot woman getting fucked. It isn't what I jill off to but I do enjoy watching it at times.

The reason men aren't brought up in lesbian romance is because it's not what we are interested in. It can be quite off putting.

Imagine as a straight person someone forcing gay sex scenes on you. It's not going to do anything for you nor is it what you wanted to see. I've even seen some straight men have hilarious over the top reactions like saying they want to throw up at the mere sight of 2 men kissing and how angry it makes them. I don't believe it for a second, they are protesting too much.

I guess it comes down to that dreaded imaginary "friend zone".

I have no problems being friends with men but i'd never date one.

Even when it comes to the old biological clock, I don't need a man around for it. We have artificial insemination and adoption. I'm not interested in having kids of my own but if the need ever did crop up there are clinics and turkey basters.

I've been with my girlfriend for over 5 years now. Assuming we don't have another world crisis in the next year we should, hopefully, be able to start back up planning out wedding again which covid delayed so fuck you covid.

Long story short. I don't hate men, I don't find them repulsive and I don't dislike straight sex to any major degree it's just not something that I have any desire for.

Then again this is all coming from a full time lesbian. I was never confused about who I was, I never had to experiment to find myself. I've always known I was a dyke and i've always been drawn towards women. It isn't something I made a conscious choice about it just is what it is.

Mb I explained it not correctly. Because I see that my point is unclear. I need the opinion about details such as would a lesbian give a blowjob for a bet? Or is it too much for her? Because, again, I can understand when a guy can't kiss anpother guy even for a bet or a money. But I find it hard to believe that a woman can't touch a man/or vise versa because of sexuality. Do I see it totally wrong maybe?

Yes, you do see it totally wrong.

As a lesbian i'm as attracted to women as straight men are. If a straight man wouldn't suck a cock for a bet why the fuck would I?

No, no I wouldn't. I may not find men repulsive and I may not hate them but I don't ever want to touch their cocks. That's just weird.

 

[Higurashika]

Yes, you do see it totally wrong.

Thanks for such a good answer. Now I better see what lesbian might considered as a forced action that she'll find unattractive.

 

[Higurashika]

If a straight man wouldn't suck a cock for a bet why the fuck would I?

But it depends on person, right? So there is a possibility of lesbian doing it? It's not a taboo?

 

[User4862]

But it depends on person, right? So there is a possibility of lesbian doing it? It's not a taboo?

considering a lesbian is a homosexual female, thats attracted exclusively to females, what youre talking about, by definition, wouldnt be lesbian. the line between homosexual and bisexual is pretty clear.

 

[Avaron1974]

But it depends on person, right? So there is a possibility of lesbian doing it? It's not a taboo?

Of course there is a possibility.

It's easier to say there are degrees of gay.

You have the extreme end of the scale like me that have always been lesbian and then there are some that have, and do still, experiment.

I guess it's easier to explain as bisexuality but it's not the whole truth.

There are lesbians I know that only date women but have invited a man into the bedroom on occasion.

It's not seen as taboo as say a straight man doing something with another man but it's also not something all lesbians will ever do.

Of course you will always be able to find those that do, there have even been women that started as lesbian and ended up with men. That also works vice versa.

My ex only ever dated men until she started experimented with women and switched teams. That was about 7 years ago and she's still only dating women but we broke up due to her being batshit insane. To be truthful men owe us a thanks for taking that one off their hands.

So, yeah, while there are pure lesbians like me that won't do anything sexual with men there are those that will. It's not something that's a big taboo, it's all down to the individual and what they are comfortable with.

 

[redknight00]

It's okay if a lesbian kisses her male friends as long as she says 'no straight' after.

 

[Rafster]

Hi, folks. Suddenly I realized that I don't understand gay people's limits and the perception of the opposite sex. For example, what are limits for lesbian: can she give handjob? Blowjob? Is her red line a romance and kissing but she doesn't mind just sex (at least in threesome)? Or she will never touch cock?

I mean, what gay people dislike in opposite sex? Is it only about emotions or genitals and bodies too? I'd like to understand details to make lesbian MC in my games more real.

It's a hard question if you see it from a straight male perspective, but at least it's good to see you're asking and making your investigation for your game. Avaron already gave you the answer you seek, but I also want to add that is also true for the opposite side. You can't say that every gay out there will run scared of women, pussy or boobs. Some of them like feminine guys, or even M2F trans people. Some of them wouldn't mind a threesome with a woman, but I don't know if that's more like bi territory.

Even in my case, I like masculine men and I wouldn't touch a woman, but I fapped with vids of masculine F2M trans, where they still have their pussy. Hell, I included one on the next update of my game for fucks sake.

There are no hard limits for gays, and I guess the same can be said of lesbians, bisexuals or even straight people.

 

[OsamiWorks]

It's okay if a lesbian kisses her male friends as long as she says 'no straight' after.

Haha, ive said something similar before kissing the homies goodnight