General portrayal of futa in vids/games

[tanstaafl]

I have a few questions on general portrayal of futa in games and vids. Or more particularly, why certain traits have come to almost be the norm.

There's a small list of traits, so I'll just list them here. The "WHY?" part can be inferred from each bullet point.

• Dick's so big that they would cause severe hemorrhaging at best and death at worst.
• Portrayed as more aggressive than the worst male predators in existence.
• Single minded determination to cuck everyone.
• Overwhelmingly rapey.

It's just odd to me.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Over the last few months I've caved in my avoidance of futa content in games. It's not my thing, but there's just so damn much of it these days it got to be a pain to try to avoid it.

There's more than 14,000 games available, with only 1,344 with either a futa/trans character or a futa/trans protagonist. And if you limits to the 3,794 games in progress, there's only 541 with futa/trans content.

How the fuck can it be a pain to avoid less than 15% of the games ?

 

[Lerd0]

There's more than 14,000 games available, with only 1,344 with either a futa/trans character or a futa/trans protagonist. And if you limits to the 3,794 games in progress, there's only 541 with futa/trans content.

How the fuck can it be a pain to avoid less than 15% of the games ?

...a lot of those aren't even futa......that tag is a bit of a mess.....

 

[tanstaafl]

There's more than 14,000 games available, with only 1,344 with either a futa/trans character or a futa/trans protagonist. And if you limits to the 3,794 games in progress, there's only 541 with futa/trans content.

How the fuck can it be a pain to avoid less than 15% of the games ?

It's almost as if lately the number of futa vs non futa games has skewed higher than in previous times. Or do you expect that all ratios remained static over time? (You don't do you, you normally seem rational.)

The less snarky answer is 1. I don't filter 2. I check story desc first 3. click download if that interests me. (Tags are a quagmire). The result of this is more futa and/or futa optional than previously. Could just be an uptick in the last few months due to coincidence. I'm pretty sure we've both talked about trends and spikes before in previous threads.

Now that the pedantry is out of the way, why don't you try answering the actual question? lol

 

[tanstaafl]

You know what? I'll just edit out the filler text of the OP and just leave in the actual question. Wouldn't want to offend your sensibilities by implying an uptick of a tags occurrence over a few months without statistical proof.

 

[Rafster]

...a lot of those aren't even futa......that tag is a bit of a mess.....

Yeah, that's a glaring defect of the tag. The tag also covers trans people.

Take my game for example, a gay game where there's only one or two major woman characters, and have the tag because I have one scene with a trans FtM man.

 

[tanstaafl]

Yeah, that's a glaring defect of the tag. The tag also covers trans people.

Take my game for example, a gay game where there's only one or two major woman characters, and have the tag because I have one scene with a trans FtM man.

I will say that the games I come across with actual trans in them are miles better story wise in general (imo). They also lack the weird exaggerations that tend to crop up that are so off-putting. But, it took years for this site make change from an incorrect tag (NTR) to an even more incorrect combination of tags (netorare and announce "Netori is just cheating"), so I wouldn't get my hopes up there.

 

[anne O'nymous]

It's almost as if lately the number of futa vs non futa games has skewed higher than in previous times. Or do you expect that all ratios remained static over time? (You don't do you, you normally seem rational.)

I am someone rational, in the present case it's you who aren't.

Saying that there isn't more game with futa/trans content would be a lie. This even if Lerd0 is right, nowadays it's more an increase of trans content that we face, than an increase of futa content.
But in the same time it's why I shown two metrics. The total number of games, that have less than 10% of futa/trans content, and the number of games currently in progress, that have a bit more than 14% of futa/trans content. And it happen that if 14% is high enough to be noticed, it's still fucking low and easy to avoid.
It also happen that there's good stories with this content, like by example My New Memories, Futagenesis unveiled, or Shattered. This even if only the second is effectively about futa, the two others having transgender content.

The result of this is more futa optional than previously.

It pass from 9.6% when you look at all the games, to 14.25% when you only looks at those currently in progress. I'll not do the math, because it's past 3AM here and I'm lazy, but it's what ? A ~30% increase for in the end what still stay a small difference.

The issue isn't that there's this more futa/trans content, but that good/creative authors are now more pron to add transgender characters, when not directly futa. What mean that effectively, by filtering on the description, and therefore only caring about interesting games, you are probably facing a bigger increase.
But in the same time, like you said yourself, it's optional content. Therefore it have near to no impact on the pleasure you can get from the game and its story. In My New Memories by example, because for the two others it's the MC who's trans or futa, since the trans character is one of MC's daughters, you can't totally avoid the subject. You'll have to accompany her on her transition. Yet it's just story wise, it will not imply sex or anything ; you'll just be a caring father and avoiding sexual interaction with this particular character will not deprive you of the well wrote and handled story.

Now that the pedantry is out of the way, why don't you try answering the actual question? lol

Because you're just pointing the overused trope.

Yes, historically speaking futa are expected to be over sexualized characters ; the male tendency to dominance and the female sexual appetite, all this served by a big dick. But when you look at the recent games, it's also a fading trend.
There's the diehards, that will never change this because it's what interest them. But there's also those who want to build something, and therefore need to goes out of the cheap cliché, because they lead nowhere and drastically limits the personality and story development. You don't go far with "me futa, me fucking you again and again", and it's hard to make the characters don't looks like clones when they only think and act that way.
But even a futa addict like Icarus Media , is writing more "natural" characters. While the mother is the typical futa, the grandma is more on the side of the typical woman. She don't hesitate to have sex, but it's mostly because she haven't had some since long. And while they have a big dick accordingly to real life standard, it's not really bigger than MC's one.

 

[TessaXYZ]

I have a few questions on general portrayal of futa in games and vids. Or more particularly, why certain traits have come to almost be the norm.

There's a small list of traits, so I'll just list them here. The "WHY?" part can be inferred from each bullet point.

• Dick's so big that they would cause severe hemorrhaging at best and death at worst.
• Portrayed as more aggressive than the worst male predators in existence.
• Single minded determination to cuck everyone.
• Overwhelmingly rapey.

It's just odd to me.

I'm a futa dev. None of those traits apply to my game. I can name a bunch of other futa games where none of those traits apply either, and they all rate pretty high (suggesting that people actually enjoy the opposite of your proposition). Is your blanket statement really representative of the genre, or are you picking out egregious examples in how you think about this? Are you actually sampling the entirety of futa in making this statement, or have you honed in on a particular subset because it correlates with some other kinks you're also drawn to?

 

[tanstaafl]

It pass from 9.6% when you look at all the games, to 14.25% when you only looks at those currently in progress. I'll not do the math, because it's past 3AM here and I'm lazy, but it's what ? A ~30% increase for in the end what still stay a small difference.

~30% is roughly 1 in 3 more than the prior to the last 12 months. Minimal math requried. Thanks for supporting my argument I guess?

Because you're just pointing the overused trope.

Well, yeah. Because it's overused. That's how that works.

But when you look at the recent games, it's also a fading trend.

Since I guess I would consider myself new to partaking of futa content I haven't had time to notice anything fading or not. But if what I'm seeing is after the fading has started then it has a pretty long way to go.

But even a futa addict like Icarus Media , is writing more "natural" characters. While the mother is the typical futa, the grandma is more on the side of the typical woman. She don't hesitate to have sex, but it's mostly because she haven't had some since long. And while they have a big dick accordingly to real life standard, it's not really bigger than MC's one.

I don't think I've played any of their games, so I wouldn't know, but I get the gist of what you are saying. And, if true, that's something to look forward to (the trend towards normalcy that is).

 

[tanstaafl]

I'm a futa dev. None of those traits apply to my game. I can name a bunch of other futa games where none of those traits apply either, and they all rate pretty high (suggesting that people actually enjoy the opposite of your proposition). Is your blanket statement really representative of the genre, or are you picking out egregious examples in how you think about this? Are you actually sampling the entirety of futa in making this statement, or have you honed in on a particular subset because it correlates with some other kinks you're also drawn to?

Wasn't meant to be a blanket statement, I believe I said general portrayal. A generality isn't a rule it's just a majority. If you don't participate in those trends then great! And I'd probably play the games you make (depending on if I like the story). But what I don't understand is why so many people try to pretend that what I described isn't a major part of how a lot of futa content is presented?

 

[hrimthyrs]

Yeah, that's a glaring defect of the tag. The tag also covers trans people.

Take my game for example, a gay game where there's only one or two major woman characters, and have the tag because I have one scene with a trans FtM man.

Sadly, there's a million threads discussing the need to split out trans content, and they always get derailed by the willfully ignorant claiming the distinction isn't clear (never mind that one exists IRL and there are members of that demographic who would want to easily find games they can self-insert into same as every other demographic, the other is probably impossible and certainly never documented), mods who construct little men of straw to kick over by saying obvious nonsense like "it's just stupid to add 50 new tags to account for all variations of girls with dicks", and transphobes who use those threads as conduits to find the few open trans users and harass them until they delete their accounts.

There's also a trap tag which is defined in such a way that it's not clear if they mean crossdressing (in which case, just call it "crossdressing" FFS) or "we who define the tags are transphobic assholes, but we're not honest enough to just put a 'no transes allowed' sign on the front page, so trans players can be lulled into a false sense of security, sign up, and get harassed while we look the other way".

 

[redknight00]

It pass from 9.6% when you look at all the games, to 14.25% when you only looks at those currently in progress. I'll not do the math, because it's past 3AM here and I'm lazy, but it's what ? A ~30% increase for in the end what still stay a small difference.

One thing to note is that futa is strangely rare in weeb games (at least the ones on the site), so that skews the recent data as western games tend to pop up more often if you order by time due to promotion of updates.

 

[qwsaq]

• Dick's so big that they would cause severe hemorrhaging at best and death at worst.
• Portrayed as more aggressive than the worst male predators in existence.
• Single minded determination to cuck everyone.
• Overwhelmingly rapey.

These are traits that are fairly common among "dominant" characters in general. And futa characters tend to be doms because "why give them a dick if you don't intend for them to use it?"
The kind of people who would dedicate their energy to making a niche fetish porn game tend to be exactly the people who are into the most extreme versions of whatever their niche fetish is. You do the math.

And yes: exceptions abound. Broad strokes, fuzzy boundaries, etc. But asking why futas in games are often rapey degenerates with goliath cocks is like asking why "dominant" men in games are often rapey degenerates with goliath cocks.

 

[tanstaafl]

These are traits that are fairly common among "dominant" characters in general. And futa characters tend to be doms because "why give them a dick if you don't intend for them to use it?"
The kind of people who would dedicate their energy to making a niche fetish porn game tend to be exactly the people who are into the most extreme versions of whatever their niche fetish is. You do the math.

And yes: exceptions abound. Broad strokes, fuzzy boundaries, etc. But asking why futas in games are often rapey degenerates with goliath cocks is like asking why "dominant" men in games are often rapey degenerates with goliath cocks.

Good points. Though conflating the futa tropes I mentioned with some common male dom tropes is a bit lacking. I'd go a step further by saying that the futa tropes try to "one up" the male dom tropes in some cases. I.E. Bigger dicks, more rapey (can that even be a thing? lol), etc. Still, it would answer a lot of my questions.

 

[Meaning Less]

I disagree that they are "more agressive than males".

You just have some bias against futa, what makes you pay closer attention to when they are depicted dominant, meanwhile when males are depicted exactly the same in other games you don't even notice it...

 

[tanstaafl]

I disagree that they are "more agressive than males".

You just have some bias against futa, what makes you pay closer attention to when they are depicted dominant, meanwhile when males are depicted exactly the same in other games you don't even notice it...

Sure, that may be the case (Not being sarcastic, I probably do have some bias against futa, though I'm not aware of anything overt). Or maybe it's the reactions to the "rapes". In male dom games the LIs being raped at least try to resist most of the time. In many (not all) futa games they're just "Oh woman with huge dick...ohhhh". That may be swaying my thoughts a bit as well.

 

[Meaning Less]

In male dom games the LIs being raped at least try to resist most of the time.

To be fair I would bet it is because of the game type you played and less about the futa since you mentioned them cucking others as well, in any ntr game the girls being stolen don't resist enough if you ask me, be it male or futa...

 

[tanstaafl]

in any ntr game the girls being stolen don't resist enough if you ask me, be it male or futa...

truth

 

[Icarus Media]

But even a futa addict like Icarus Media , is writing more "natural" characters. While the mother is the typical futa, the grandma is more on the side of the typical woman. She don't hesitate to have sex, but it's mostly because she haven't had some since long. And while they have a big dick accordingly to real life standard, it's not really bigger than MC's one.

To be fair I do have some of the stereotypical big dick predatory futanari but I like to balance that out, so yeah the Grandma has the same size as her grandson and pretty much can control herself if needs be. Her daughter on the other hand is the very stereotype.

But even in my old game of Dickgirl Dorm I had ones that politely asked and could be told no, and even some that left you and your spouse alone.

I realised the implications of the stereotype long ago and in my universe created the concept of Huntresses, a biological evolution who are immune to their pheromones and far stronger and faster than them. Who sometimes hunt and kill them for sport, or just to keep the peace.

Also I'm not an addict I can quit anytime I want!