VN Ren'Py Giant Guardians [v0.3.67] [Giant Guardians]

[Misfit scout]

Oh yes what a grand world...A certified fun steppe vacation...Though then again the Guardians might be the protectors of their kingdoms...But it is said there are other authorities, like kings, councils and the like that decide such matters as going to war

The more we talk about how strong the giantesses are, the more I realize how much safer this world would be without them

 

[Chumgum]

The more we talk about how strong the giantesses are, the more I realize how much safer this world would be without them

Yeah but, they have giant boobs I can fit my whole body into.
So it evens out.

 

[secretlyness]

The more we talk about how strong the giantesses are, the more I realize how much safer this world would be without them

I mean, they do help in some kingdoms, though. In the angel place, Regina's kingdom, the Queen's area, and maybe the underwater place, the giantesses are generally friendly and helpful. It's just the other kingdoms and neutral areas where they are pretty awful, but then again, ordinary people have also been awful in plenty of places. If giantesses were gone, there would still be plenty of god-awful kingdoms to live, and probably would have a lot more wars. Plus, the good kingdoms with giantesses would very likely deteriorate significantly without them.

 

[Misfit scout]

I mean, they do help in some kingdoms, though. In the angel place, Regina's kingdom, the Queen's area, and maybe the underwater place, the giantesses are generally friendly and helpful. It's just the other kingdoms and neutral areas where they are pretty awful, but then again, ordinary people have also been awful in plenty of places. If giantesses were gone, there would still be plenty of god-awful kingdoms to live, and probably would have a lot more wars. Plus, the good kingdoms with giantesses would very likely deteriorate significantly without them.

Yeah I know, but there's a great difference in a bad person who is the size of an average human, and the bad person who is taller than a house

 

[F1r3Guy]

The more we talk about how strong the giantesses are, the more I realize how much safer this world would be without them

maybe but lets also remember they are the equivilent of nukes in that verse one of them can ruin a kingdom but can also keep one alive and such that and its a game so

 

[secretlyness]

Yeah I know, but there's a great difference in a bad person who is the size of an average human, and the bad person who is taller than a house

Yes, but there's also a massive difference between a bad person or group with weapons and an average person. A group of bandits, some corrupt noble's army, or even some random person with a weapon could just as easily kill the average unarmed person. All Giantesses do is add a layer above that. Giantesses are pretty much like how modern day countries could easily kill their own citizens with modern weaponry with little to nothing they could do about it. Maybe they would be less likely to do something like slaughter a whole village, but modern countries still do very awful things to very many people with that technology, and even did long before modern guns came around. Giantesses being stronger also works both ways. Actually good giantesses, like Mayren (with the eyepatch on) or Regina can deter bad people and make things safer. That's why the Heaven kingdom and the Queen's place are generally very good places to live. There are also multiple times in this game that giantesses deal with bandits attacking a village, which would be a lot harder to do with regular-sized people. Overall, if there were no giantesses, there would still be bad people doing bad things, since the average person is super vulnerable, so it vastly just depends on how good the area is to live at.

 

[verdammen]

Never watched Attack on Titan, what would be the "rumbling"?

 

[verdammen]

Loads of really big boys going on a stroll

Them going on a stroll wasn't the end
Them emitting enormous amounts of heat was the main problem
You could only survive underground or be lucky to get/have a plane
They burned all plant life and animals to feed humans

In here, probably there aren't that many giantesses and probably most are from normal building-sized to a tall building-sized
And I think underwater kingdom would be against that done in their waters

 

[Silver_Crow117]

is the new update dropped yet though it looks like we got more shina
castle life
and the cow womens

That’s uh… an interesting guess

 

[Chivalry/Honor]

Yes, but there's also a massive difference between a bad person or group with weapons and an average person. A group of bandits, some corrupt noble's army, or even some random person with a weapon could just as easily kill the average unarmed person. All Giantesses do is add a layer above that. Giantesses are pretty much like how modern day countries could easily kill their own citizens with modern weaponry with little to nothing they could do about it. Maybe they would be less likely to do something like slaughter a whole village, but modern countries still do very awful things to very many people with that technology, and even did long before modern guns came around. Giantesses being stronger also works both ways. Actually good giantesses, like Mayren (with the eyepatch on) or Regina can deter bad people and make things safer. That's why the Heaven kingdom and the Queen's place are generally very good places to live. There are also multiple times in this game that giantesses deal with bandits attacking a village, which would be a lot harder to do with regular-sized people. Overall, if there were no giantesses, there would still be bad people doing bad things, since the average person is super vulnerable, so it vastly just depends on how good the area is to live at.

But there is one thing these so called bad people, or groups or whatever have that the Giantesses don't: Accountability. Trying to make them answer for their crimes and actions is doable, while trying to make a Giantess do the same is almost impossible unless the one who does it is another giantess...There is also the fact that Giantesses are not just weapons, but living, breathing, thinking people. When one decides to be compassionate, its all well and good...But when one decides to throw their conscience to the gutter they will wind up creating an ever increasing body count with no end in sight...Its one of the reasons Homaspernia remains a kingdom on the continent...They have the highest amount of giantesses out of any kingdom(God help them all...)...Couple that with unscrupulousness, malevolence, terror tactics and, unlike Lycalis, subterfuge and deceit...Yeah.

 

[F1r3Guy]

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[Chivalry/Honor]

Any word on the update?

 

[secretlyness]

But there is one thing these so called bad people, or groups or whatever have that the Giantesses don't: Accountability. Trying to make them answer for their crimes and actions is doable, while trying to make a Giantess do the same is almost impossible unless the one who does it is another giantess...There is also the fact that Giantesses are not just weapons, but living, breathing, thinking people. When one decides to be compassionate, its all well and good...But when one decides to throw their conscience to the gutter they will wind up creating an ever increasing body count with no end in sight...Its one of the reasons Homaspernia remains a kingdom on the continent...They have the highest amount of giantesses out of any kingdom(God help them all...)...Couple that with unscrupulousness, malevolence, terror tactics and, unlike Lycalis, subterfuge and deceit...Yeah.

You could literally switch the word giantess for the word noble in your post (except for the very bottom) and it would be basically the exact same. Nobles in fantasy stuff are often only held accountable by nobles, and get away with some awful things to commoners. If Giantesses were removed, whatever same-sized people were in power would still be doing awful things and frequently get away with it, just like the giantesses now. Something like Homaspernia is pretty much the giantess-equivalent of a fantasy country with absurdly strong noble privilege where nobles kill commoners that annoy them or kidnap pretty commoner women off the streets with no repercussions. A lot of fantasy media have something like that, and there's nothing suggesting this game's world wouldn't if there's no giantesses. That's just how these somewhat exaggerated fantasy worlds are, depending on the writing.

 

[Misfit scout]

You could literally switch the word giantess for the word noble in your post (except for the very bottom) and it would be basically the exact same. Nobles in fantasy stuff are often only held accountable by nobles, and get away with some awful things to commoners. If Giantesses were removed, whatever same-sized people were in power would still be doing awful things and frequently get away with it, just like the giantesses now. Something like Homaspernia is pretty much the giantess-equivalent of a fantasy country with absurdly strong noble privilege where nobles kill commoners that annoy them or kidnap pretty commoner women off the streets with no repercussions. A lot of fantasy media have something like that, and there's nothing suggesting this game's world wouldn't if there's no giantesses. That's just how these somewhat exaggerated fantasy worlds are, depending on the writing.

Yeah but to be honest, some random guy can kill the noble, or an enormous group of people can start a revolution to build a new state

The same thing can't be done with giants, as they can easily just step on everyone and show that their power is not only political or economical, but biological and magical

Edit: not saying that killing a noble is easy, is very hard (principally nowadays), but between an noble and a giant, you know very well who is more difficult to kill

 

[YouShallNotLol]

You could literally switch the word giantess for the word noble in your post (except for the very bottom) and it would be basically the exact same. Nobles in fantasy stuff are often only held accountable by nobles, and get away with some awful things to commoners. If Giantesses were removed, whatever same-sized people were in power would still be doing awful things and frequently get away with it, just like the giantesses now. Something like Homaspernia is pretty much the giantess-equivalent of a fantasy country with absurdly strong noble privilege where nobles kill commoners that annoy them or kidnap pretty commoner women off the streets with no repercussions. A lot of fantasy media have something like that, and there's nothing suggesting this game's world wouldn't if there's no giantesses. That's just how these somewhat exaggerated fantasy worlds are, depending on the writing.

A huge BUT. You can kill a noble with one stab of a dagger. And to kill a giantess you need at least another giantess. Your comparison is not fair at all.
A noble's power comes from their servants, if nobody is willing to serve a noble, they are a single human in the end.
But a giantess is an army of one, you literally need an entire army to take one of them down.

 

[secretlyness]

Yeah but to be honest, some random guy can kill the noble, or an enormous group of people can start a revolution to build a new state

The same thing can't be done with giants, as they can easily just step on everyone and show that their power is not only political or economical, but biological and magical

While possible to kill a noble, they typically have stuff like knights with them, along with most people they go after not being in a position to retaliate easily, making that very unlikely. Plus, they tend to do stuff like killing the friends and family if you resist, making people far less willing to do so. People in power have always found plenty of ways to make their targets afraid to retaliate, and the very miniscule possibility of successful revenge from peasants in a medieval fantasy settings is barely even a factor.

As for revolution, while that is true, giantesses being in charge does help stop bad changes in government as well. There are plenty of times in fantasy stories that a decent ruler gets killed or replaced by a worse one, leading to countries becoming worse off. There are times when new bad people end up overthrowing good ones, so it's not entirely a good thing to have more vulnerable governments. The giantesses being split into their kingdoms with the guardians are far more stable in that regard, so good kingdoms tend to stay good while bad ones tend to stay bad. Heaven kingdom and the Queen's place will pretty much always stay good places to be, while Homaspernia will always be awful. If giantesses were gone, whether the new kingdoms that sprouted up afterwards would be overall safer or not would be purely a matter of writing, and it could change very frequently whenever the rulers do.

 

[Misfit scout]

While possible to kill a noble, they typically have stuff like knights with them, along with most people they go after not being in a position to retaliate easily, making that very unlikely. Plus, they tend to do stuff like killing the friends and family if you resist, making people far less willing to do so. People in power have always found plenty of ways to make their targets afraid to retaliate, and the very miniscule possibility of successful revenge from peasants in a medieval fantasy settings is barely even a factor.

As for revolution, while that is true, giantesses being in charge does help stop bad changes in government as well. There are plenty of times in fantasy stories that a decent ruler gets killed or replaced by a worse one, leading to countries becoming worse off. There are times when new bad people end up overthrowing good ones, so it's not entirely a good thing to have more vulnerable governments. The giantesses being split into their kingdoms with the guardians are far more stable in that regard, so good kingdoms tend to stay good while bad ones tend to stay bad. Heaven kingdom and the Queen's place will pretty much always stay good places to be, while Homaspernia will always be awful. If giantesses were gone, whether the new kingdoms that sprouted up afterwards would be overall safer or not would be purely a matter of writing, and it could change very frequently whenever the rulers do.

You are pretty much explaining how life is relative, in our debate neither I or you are the wrong ones, it really depends in what we are basing our views

If we start looking at the heaven kingdom, yes, it's very lucky to have giantesses to defend it against bad people

While Homaspernia is indeed very bad, that it really makes you think if would turn into a better place, as humans beings tend to focus on what they want, and not what they need

We can pratically use real life events as an example, as some revolutions were good and necessary, some.just turn out to the worst, and revealing to be more of someone wanting to have power rather to improve their state

 

[secretlyness]

You are pretty much explaining how life is relative, in our debate neither I or you are the wrong ones, it really depends in what we are basing our views

If we start looking at the heaven kingdom, yes, it's very lucky to have giantesses to defend it against bad people

While Homaspernia is indeed very bad, that it really makes you think if would turn into a better place, as humans beings tend to focus on what they want, and not what they need

We can pratically use real life events as an example, as some revolutions were good and necessary, some.just turn out to the worst, and revealing to be more of someone wanting to have power rather to improve their state

Overall, though, this debate is about whether or not it would be safer with the giantesses gone. The initial post I was replying to was " The more we talk about how strong the giantesses are, the more I realize how much safer this world would be without them", and I was trying to say it would likely be pretty similar or a bit random whether or not it's safer instead of guaranteed.

 

[Misfit scout]

Overall, though, this debate is about whether or not it would be safer with the giantesses gone. The initial post I was replying to was " The more we talk about how strong the giantesses are, the more I realize how much safer this world would be without them", and I was trying to say it would likely be pretty similar or a bit random whether or not it's safer instead of guaranteed.

As I said, it's relative in my opinion

 

[Florrr]

Vai'Klis, Nyx, and Kendra. It makes sense their last update was around 6 updates ago (I guess 0 technically now), Kendra update is unfortunate but makes sense, but damn, that's a lotta variations for 2 scenes. I wonder if it's another group scene?