Also the fact that the most powerful states are just kinda magically immune. I wouldn't be surprised if the same goes for Timfalme.
Who will be there to judge them?
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Who will be there to judge them?
The existence of no man's land called "neutral territories" in the first place is one of Orphelith's biggest crimes. If the status quo wasn't being enforced by Orphelith, the "neutral territories" would have become parts of kingdoms, and enjoyed law enforcement.
Or, what is much more likely, the "neutral territories" WERE parts of the kingdoms, but then were annexed by Orphelith and turned into lawless hellscape they are now.
And I don't even have to come up with arguments for the latter theory. Literally most armed conflicts in the last 50 years that were "solved" by UN intervention - were by creating the no man's land demilitarized zones, stalling the conflicts indefinitely and letting those wars smoulder forever. Just like "neutral territories" in GG.
LOL why? Naya 100% represents most citizens of her country. Have you seen how all the other giantess and even most tinies act? It's Madea who's the oddball in the beast kingdom. Naya represents her people well while Madea is a good second in command whose support is esential for diplomacy.
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Yeah...
-From treating The Neutral Territories as a buffer for when kingdoms go to war, subjecting their citizenry to the marching armies of the kingdoms while refuges have more time to evacuate;
-Showing a callous disregard for the lives of The Neutral Territory people, saying that she'd have killed'em all if there weren't any innocent people there.
-Thinking and making it seem like it's entirely made of lawless, criminal and mostly anarchic land of evil-doers, while other stories like Croixelle and Naya's make it clear its not the case. Some of those people are innocents or people driven out of the Kingdoms thanks to its harsh laws(Kive's story demonstrates how damaging they can be in regards to her mom) and insufficient lively hoods.
-Refusing to prosecute any wandering giantess for rampaging and murdering The Neutral Territories people for the sake of political expediency, leaving the judgements at the hands of the giantesses respective kingdom, which is something none of them have any reason to do so, thereby giving her tacit approval while washing her hands off entirely.
-Refusing to hold her agents accountable to Timfalme's laws whenever they venture out into Neutral Territory, giving them permission to behave in a similar manner to Kendra against hostile criminals.
Orpelith is someone who, in the process of trying to create peace and enforce a stable status quo, has lost touch with her humanity, choosing to disregard morality for the sake of political expediancy. Her treatment of the Neutral Territories is not just saying its 'not her problem' and leaving it at that. They are treated as expendable fodder in her eyes, a release valve for the conflict in the five kingdoms.
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(From treating The Neutral Territories as a buffer for when kingdoms go to war, subjecting their citizenry to the marching armies of the kingdoms while refuges have more time to evacuate)
It's not the Queen's fault that the neutral territories are full of people. It is literally said that they are mostly criminals of the worst kind.
(literally are those whose lowest crime is murder.)
And yes, I also know that there are innocent people; such as those who are engaged in resource extraction, as well as those who are afraid of giants.
(I have always wondered why there are no cities in the kingdoms exclusively for little ones)
but it is a risk that they themselves took knowing the situation there.
(Showing a callous disregard for the lives of The Neutral Territory people, saying that she'd have killed'em all if there weren't any innocent people there)
It does not show contempt because they live in neutral territory, but because it is mostly criminals who live in those territories.
(Thinking and making it seem like it's entirely made of lawless, criminal and mostly anarchic land of evil-doers, while other stories like Croixelle and Naya's make it clear its not the case. Some of those people are innocents or people driven out of the Kingdoms thanks to its harsh laws(Kive's story demonstrates how damaging they can be in regards to her mom) and insufficient lively hoods)
The queen herself says that there are innocent people in the neutral territories and she never makes it seem as if only bad people live there. in fact that's why she says she doesn't annihilate them, because she knows there are innocents. Besides how can you say harsh laws when they locked up Kive's mother for murder?
(Refusing to prosecute any wandering giantess for rampaging and murdering The Neutral Territories people for the sake of political expediency, leaving the judgements at the hands of the giantesses respective kingdom, which is something none of them have any reason to do so, thereby giving her tacit approval while washing her hands off entirely)
True, but I wouldn't stick my hand in if someone killed the giantess in neutral territory either.
(Refusing to hold her agents accountable to Timfalme's laws whenever they venture out into Neutral Territory, giving them permission to behave in a similar manner to Kendra against hostile criminals)
well... yes, but that's how laws work, isn't it?
but also that's not over thinking Sheina's words, maybe it was just a threat. besides I don't think Timfale's soldiers go around the neutral territories acting like USA, Russia or the former British empire.
(Orpelith is someone who, in the process of trying to create peace and enforce a stable status quo, has lost touch with her humanity, choosing to disregard morality for the sake of political expediancy. Her treatment of the Neutral Territories is not just saying its 'not her problem' and leaving it at that. They are treated as expendable fodder in her eyes, a release valve for the conflict in the five kingdoms)
Orpelith is first and foremost the queen of Timfale, obviously she will act first for her kingdom rather than for third parties. She acts out of political expediency knowing that she has several people behind her to watch out for. If she acted as you want her to act, she would end up starting the very wars she wants to avoid. just look at how the conflict between Licalis and Virindice is starting and that there is possibly a hand behind starting that conflict. besides it is not the queen's fault the presence of innocent people in those kingdoms. Yes, she has problems that provoke those situations, but blaming her alone is not fair knowing the immensity of how problems are provoked.
Also, if you want to hate the queen there are other ways like:
-she's human?
-No
-Then there is nothing to talk about
It's not the Queen's fault that the neutral territories are full of people. It is literally said that they are mostly criminals of the worst kind.
(literally are those whose lowest crime is murder.)
And yes, I also know that there are innocent people; such as those who are engaged in resource extraction, as well as those who are afraid of giants.
(I have always wondered why there are no cities in the kingdoms exclusively for little ones)
but it is a risk that they themselves took knowing the situation there.
(Showing a callous disregard for the lives of The Neutral Territory people, saying that she'd have killed'em all if there weren't any innocent people there)
It does not show contempt because they live in neutral territory, but because it is mostly criminals who live in those territories.
(Thinking and making it seem like it's entirely made of lawless, criminal and mostly anarchic land of evil-doers, while other stories like Croixelle and Naya's make it clear its not the case. Some of those people are innocents or people driven out of the Kingdoms thanks to its harsh laws(Kive's story demonstrates how damaging they can be in regards to her mom) and insufficient lively hoods)
The queen herself says that there are innocent people in the neutral territories and she never makes it seem as if only bad people live there. in fact that's why she says she doesn't annihilate them, because she knows there are innocents. Besides how can you say harsh laws when they locked up Kive's mother for murder?
(Refusing to prosecute any wandering giantess for rampaging and murdering The Neutral Territories people for the sake of political expediency, leaving the judgements at the hands of the giantesses respective kingdom, which is something none of them have any reason to do so, thereby giving her tacit approval while washing her hands off entirely)
True, but I wouldn't stick my hand in if someone killed the giantess in neutral territory either.
(Refusing to hold her agents accountable to Timfalme's laws whenever they venture out into Neutral Territory, giving them permission to behave in a similar manner to Kendra against hostile criminals)
well... yes, but that's how laws work, isn't it?
but also that's not over thinking Sheina's words, maybe it was just a threat. besides I don't think Timfale's soldiers go around the neutral territories acting like USA, Russia or the former British empire.
(Orpelith is someone who, in the process of trying to create peace and enforce a stable status quo, has lost touch with her humanity, choosing to disregard morality for the sake of political expediancy. Her treatment of the Neutral Territories is not just saying its 'not her problem' and leaving it at that. They are treated as expendable fodder in her eyes, a release valve for the conflict in the five kingdoms)
Orpelith is first and foremost the queen of Timfale, obviously she will act first for her kingdom rather than for third parties. She acts out of political expediency knowing that she has several people behind her to watch out for. If she acted as you want her to act, she would end up starting the very wars she wants to avoid. just look at how the conflict between Licalis and Virindice is starting and that there is possibly a hand behind starting that conflict. besides it is not the queen's fault the presence of innocent people in those kingdoms. Yes, she has problems that provoke those situations, but blaming her alone is not fair knowing the immensity of how problems are provoked.
Also, if you want to hate the queen there are other ways like:
-she's human?
-No
-Then there is nothing to talk about
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That ending is good, after all you are not cheating on her, when I talked to Kive she told us that we are special to her for the fact of not being... a jerk... that made my heart happy, and Margarita's interpretation of destiny is even deeper in this route... seriously how beautiful
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Yes, Naya represents her people well... A WILD ONE... they are not aware of the politics or the law that are transcendental for foreign relations. SHE HERSELF SAYS THAT SHE DOES NOT FEEL QUALIFIED, she recognizes it and it is fine, she did not ask to be born with that weight, but even so she is trying to do everything possible to keep things under control (being a beast it is difficult). I loved that background of Naya. 8/10