VN Ren'Py Giant Guardians [v0.3.92] [Giant Guardians]

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The "presently no wars" part is quite literally a "calm before the storm" type of situation. Like the couple decades of peace between WW1 and WW2.
And to point out - these rules don't work. Wars did happen in the past, during Queen's rule, and are going to keep happening in the future.
Dunno man, there's no suck thing in "calm before the storm"

Between WW1 and 2, there were some crazy wars/events

Before WW2, we had USSR killing Ukrainians, Spanish civil war,and Germany black mailing other countries, and Japan conflict between their empire and china's empire (alright, no need to say everything "history teacher")

Using this example, a thing we can say, it's that it never has a calm before the storm, there is a fake sensation o peace, the two kingdoms were doomed to be in war the exact moment they made a forced peace agreement. Every bullshit that happened during this peace, was just a fuel to a worst war.

Sadly, the game didn't explored this very well (principally because the war didn't even happened yet)
 

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Dunno man, there's no suck thing in "calm before the storm"

Between WW1 and 2, there were some crazy wars/events

Before WW2, we had USSR killing Ukrainians, Spanish civil war,and Germany black mailing other countries, and Japan conflict between their empire and china's empire (alright, no need to say everything "history teacher")

Using this example, a thing we can say, it's that it never has a calm before the storm, there is a fake sensation o peace, the two kingdoms were doomed to be in war the exact moment they made a forced peace agreement. Every bullshit that happened during this peace, was just a fuel to a worst war.

Sadly, the game didn't explored this very well (principally because the war didn't even happened yet)
The things you pointed out aren't exactly disproving my argument.
Lycalis and Viridice do have border skirmishes, even tho the war isn't declared yet. Homaspernia is preparing to invade Keisiema, even getting their guardian to meet with Timfalme's princess in secret - to discuss some shady business.
Not to mention that incursions into neutral territories from some kingdoms is an everyday occurrence.
 

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The things you pointed out aren't exactly disproving my argument.
Lycalis and Viridice do have border skirmishes, even tho the war isn't declared yet. Homaspernia is preparing to invade Keisiema, even getting their guardian to meet with Timfalme's princess in secret - to discuss some shady business.
Not to mention that incursions into neutral territories from some kingdoms is an everyday occurrence.
Yeah, I didn't really disagree with you, my point is more to add something rather than to deny yours
 
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Dunno man, there's no suck thing in "calm before the storm"

Between WW1 and 2, there were some crazy wars/events

Before WW2, we had USSR killing Ukrainians, Spanish civil war,and Germany black mailing other countries, and Japan conflict between their empire and china's empire (alright, no need to say everything "history teacher")

Using this example, a thing we can say, it's that it never has a calm before the storm, there is a fake sensation o peace, the two kingdoms were doomed to be in war the exact moment they made a forced peace agreement. Every bullshit that happened during this peace, was just a fuel to a worst war.

Sadly, the game didn't explored this very well (principally because the war didn't even happened yet)
I'm not a historian, but I can say that period between WW1 and WW2 was not a "calm before the storm". Germany being totally destroyed by peace agreement (Treaty of Versailles), Russian Empire was falling apart, then The Soviet-Finnish War. Rise of radical political movements in countries. Not the calmest time. The end of WW2, however, marked a short era of relative peace. Kind of obivous, nobody would like to repeat after 26,6 millions of deaths worldwide.

USSR killing Ukrainians
Wasn't Ukrainian SSR a part of USSR? USSR was killing itself? What?
 

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It's more of a confederacy she's running- and just in case, no, a confederacy isn't a government that supports slavery (necessarily) it's a nation with a weak central government, with its states or districts given greater autonomy to rule themselves. I think it's pretty evident that there will be a reveal on her or another route saying that she probably did have a heavier hand in the past, and it led to some catastrophe- the writers are pretty good about justifying character behaviors.
That all said, you're still just saying "do better" which is still worthless, like what would you do? What would you do to get everyone on the continent to hold hands and sing kumbaya and all play getalong games like the Teletubbies?
How about the equivalent of the geneva convention? Or a court of some kind? Like, if Lycanis and Veridice went to such court and said "we don't wanna fight each other but the other side is sabotaging us" that'll at least let them know that something's up as both don't want to fight and yet are making actions that will lead to it
 
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Yes? Did you never hear of the Holodomor or are you implying repressive regimes are incapable of killing their own citizens?
Im actually pretty sure that between 1931-33, Ukraine wasn't really part of the USSR, as they didn't want to, but because of the Holodomor, they needed to give up their will against Stalin, so they just accepted his demands
 

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I'm not a historian, but I can say that period between WW1 and WW2 was not a "calm before the storm". Germany being totally destroyed by peace agreement (Treaty of Versailles), Russian Empire was falling apart, then The Soviet-Finnish War. Rise of radical political movements in countries. Not the calmest time. The end of WW2, however, marked a short era of relative peace. Kind of obivous, nobody would like to repeat after 26,6 millions of deaths worldwide.


Wasn't Ukrainian SSR a part of USSR? USSR was killing itself? What?
Nah man, literally after finishing WW2, cold war started, and in the 50's alone we had Korean war and vietnan war, and in the 60's we had the Cuba missile crisis, and a lot of fascism in south america financed by the USA
 

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do you guys think croxielle is meeting with yakuu to talk about the war. because dont they have declare war and then be approved by the queen(also i forgor the name of the law is it queen decree or guardians decree think it was one of them)
 

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do you guys think croxielle is meeting with yakuu to talk about the war. because dont they have declare war and then be approved by the queen(also i forgor the name of the law is it queen decree or guardians decree think it was one of them)
If it was why would Croixelle meet Yakuu in the middle of the night, in the middle of neutral territory and in disguise?
My guess is it's just a red herring, I think they're going to discuss something minor like the vampires immigrating to homaspernia.
 
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If I get it right, people don't like her because she don't do anything to prevent the war (sorry if I am wrong, I got a bit bored by the game, and I only played the Naya update so far)

It's like seeing the UN don't do shit seeing two nations about to explode each other

But to be fair, it took 2 world wars to the UN to be created/successful, so I think she just doesn't really until the enemy is kicking her door
 
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