shockspacer

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We plan to come up with something, we just havn't found something we like yet, that we feel works the way it will need to.
Well the corruption stat is just my 2 cents suggestion. It also makes it easier for players who want to cheat to manipulate it as its a numerical value as oppose to some kind of trigger. That said, unless you tied the stat in to all sex acts in general growing the corruption stat (which isn't entirely unrealistic), it would be a pain in the ass to have to go back and flag all the different sex acts/events that the devs feel would desensitize Sveta. Although it wouldn't be much of an issue for new material.

Personally I think any kind of sex act and a large number of events densitizing Sveta is both realistic and the easiest option to code.

Who said she is afraid of Sveta? Yes she lost a fight and yes that makes her a bit unsure and she isn't eager to lose again. So she stops bullying Sveta. That doesn't mean if Sveta starts to bully her she wouldn't stand up for herself.

People just don't go from having a dominate personality to submissive after losing a single fight. If she ever gets a submissive story it will be a on going process where she is mentally beat down over a long period of time. This also assumes she doesn't starting training super hard and next time they come to blows she wins.

Right now her story is written where she bullies Sveta and others, Sveta stands up to her and wins a fight. That is where her story ends right now. Where her story goes next is up to Anya who is writing her story.
I think there is quite a bit of popularity among players to dominate someone like Christina. A sort of achivement that Sveta can reach by dominating a dominant bitch so to speak.

Christina being a closeted switch or sub makes a certain amount of sense. Like most of her current dominant personality being false bravado or her overcompensating.

Another alternative is as you mentioned a much longer process of beating her down over time rather than just a single fight. It would be a longer storyline, and perhaps a more difficult route, but it could be there for players who like the challenge.
 

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Natasha scolds Sveta when she apparently discovers the dildo with the suction cup in the bathroom. She tells Sveta that she discovered it in the morning. Which of course is impossible in this case, because Sveta only bought it a few hours ago in the afternoon. And when Natasha tells her this, Sveta is just coming out of the bathroom, where she used it for the very first time, meaning that Natasha had no opportunity to find it anyway, and therefore couldn't have known that it even existed.

The end result, is that Sveta loses the dildo she spent 1000 roubles on, even though it's impossible for her mother to have found it.

As I've said before, the woman obviously has psychic powers.
 
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Last couple times I fought her I just used berserker rage right before the fight started. One kicked Christina into what probably should've been a coma or death. Can't really expect the devs to write Sveta's absolutely ridiculous magic ability into every non magical event though. An even half ass built mage Sveta could get her way in any event without even breaking a sweat, let alone a fully built succubus. Building around that would trivialize pretty well any concept of consequences too much.
As I said later, Sveta doesn't need to use magic on Christina, because being a succubus makes her non-magical capabilities much greater than anything Christina could conceivably achieve. It doesn't matter how hard she trains, her human capabilities are limited, whereas Sveta's aren't. Because Sveta is gradually becoming more fae than human
 

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That is one of the downsides to having a magic and non magic side to the game. Eventually we will need to figure out something to do, personally I am in favor of toning down the magic side of the game a lot, to make it easier to make content for both. Right now all to often the magic stuff makes the rest trivially easy and anything made to be a challenge for the magic side would be impossible for a non magic Sveta.

I personally just work on the non magic side, every great once in awhile I add a little to the magic side but not to often. Like I rewrote parts of the city intro for the magic starts last release for example. But I honestly don't know much about the magic side of the game so I can't say much about it. I will say Anya who is writing Christina is currently writing it for a non-magic side of the game, I have no clue what her plans are to handle the magic side, only she could answer that.
Maybe you should make it, so that it takes a lot longer for Sveta to learn magic? The game is likely to go on for years to come, so perhaps she could only reach very high stats after years of training? According to Tatiana, Sveta has an almost unlimited capability to develop her magical skills, so it stands to reason magical training for her should be a continuous ongoing thing, throughout the entire life of the game, and potentially beyond it.
 

Alaratt

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I know many people enjoyed turning the school bully into a sub, but doing so created a fair amount of issues, both from a coding/writing perspective as well as a story perspective.

One of the things we try to keep consistent is personality. The biggest reason for this is because we have many writers who come and go, adding in their own take on things. For them to do this well, they need to know the npc they cameo in their stories doesn't change dramatically. Having Christina be a domme or a sub means everything that involves her needs a minimum of 3 variations (Domme/Sub/Neutral), which can be a real pain in the ass. Things like track team and cheerleader content. Is she a domme to you? Then why would she let you run against her? Is she a sub? Would you really let her race against you? Is she outcasted and no longer a cheerleader? Cheer content would have to remove her from events if she was. Any content that involved her.

From a story perspective, you don't beat up a girl that's been a dominate bully for years and turn her into a sub overnight. That compounds on the problem above, as it would have to come in increments. Say an example of three increments, she barely listens, she starts to listen, she does whatever you say. Now that's 3 more variations of any event that involves her as a sub, then her being a domme, or you haven't done her quest and she is neutral. So now it's a total of five variations.

Another thing to keep in mind is this is all happening in 1 game year, out of probably 8 planned game years. If she ever has her sub content reintroduced, it will be over time, with a complete breakdown of her will, social, and personal life. During UNI is a better time to do something like that, as the social clique isn't as important, and the schoolmates aren't as directly linked.

Right now I am expanding her domme content, which fits her personality, giving her proper reasons for behaving in the fucked up way she does, and along the way am able to explain how Lariska and Lina ended up under her control. I also have a great many other projects to do, and don't have time to make new stories for both paths at the same time.

Does Sveta need more opportunities to be the domme? Yes. Is Christina gonna be her sub? No, or at least not for a long time.
 

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I accidentally put a good bra in storage... any way to get it out of there? i can see it but i cant take it away from there.

EDIT: Additional questions: what kind of makeup do Gopniks like? What about sluttiness, in wikia it says gopniks want Sveta to dress slutty for party, but from my experience you can't become complete slut.
Ahh, that's a problem. I'm not sure you can or that there should be a storage option currently. I'll probably just remove that and the check for it so everything goes back to being available again before release.
So I had a look and I've put the links in for switching between the sections too. Its at teh top of the page when you first go to bras.

Gopnik like heavy makeup but are least fussy group (after nerds that don't care) and you'll lose 1 point for light or none, gain a point for heavy.
 
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Nutluck

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Well the corruption stat is just my 2 cents suggestion. It also makes it easier for players who want to cheat to manipulate it as its a numerical value as oppose to some kind of trigger. That said, unless you tied the stat in to all sex acts in general growing the corruption stat (which isn't entirely unrealistic), it would be a pain in the ass to have to go back and flag all the different sex acts/events that the devs feel would desensitize Sveta. Although it wouldn't be much of an issue for new material.

Personally I think any kind of sex act and a large number of events densitizing Sveta is both realistic and the easiest option to code.
The problem with that is not all sex acts should. I mean if it is with a BF that loves her, no matter how many times they have sex why would it desensitize her? Certain sex acts, being dominated, humiliated eventually would, but not all of them. Which is the problem. I don't know what we will end up doing, we might end up doing something like you suggest but it would not just be sex but certain types of events which would have to be seeded. We will see, but honestly it is a low priority for us at the moment.

I think there is quite a bit of popularity among players to dominate someone like Christina. A sort of achivement that Sveta can reach by dominating a dominant bitch so to speak.

Christina being a closeted switch or sub makes a certain amount of sense. Like most of her current dominant personality being false bravado or her overcompensating.

Another alternative is as you mentioned a much longer process of beating her down over time rather than just a single fight. It would be a longer storyline, and perhaps a more difficult route, but it could be there for players who like the challenge.
I get that, just like a lot of people want to kill Dimka and to a point you can get some revenge on him, or Niko is another example. But we like presenting a believable world. Sometimes bad people get away with stuff and there isn't a lot you can do about it. If we make a NPC that people hate who is suppose to be disliked and people get frustrated they don't get what's coming to them. Then I think we actually did a good job, as it is making people emotional over our work.

Like most people seeing the "good guy" win can be satisfying, but honestly some of my favorite movies or tv shows are about shades of grey and the good guy doesn't always win.
 

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Maybe you should make it, so that it takes a lot longer for Sveta to learn magic? The game is likely to go on for years to come, so perhaps she could only reach very high stats after years of training? According to Tatiana, Sveta has an almost unlimited capability to develop her magical skills, so it stands to reason magical training for her should be a continuous ongoing thing, throughout the entire life of the game, and potentially beyond it.
The goal is to make things be harder and take longer as we get more years in the game. Pesonally I want to do it now, which would mean it would be impossible to max your stats in the game right now or even remotely come close. More of the devs think it is better to let the players be able to hit the max in the time we have. It has been a ongoing debate. Long term it will take several years for you to max Sveta's stats even if you work hard on raising them.
 

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The problem with that is not all sex acts should. I mean if it is with a BF that loves her, no matter how many times they have sex why would it desensitize her? Certain sex acts, being dominated, humiliated eventually would, but not all of them. Which is the problem. I don't know what we will end up doing, we might end up doing something like you suggest but it would not just be sex but certain types of events which would have to be seeded. We will see, but honestly it is a low priority for us at the moment.


I get that, just like a lot of people want to kill Dimka and to a point you can get some revenge on him, or Niko is another example. But we like presenting a believable world. Sometimes bad people get away with stuff and there isn't a lot you can do about it. If we make a NPC that people hate who is suppose to be disliked and people get frustrated they don't get what's coming to them. Then I think we actually did a good job, as it is making people emotional over our work.

Like most people seeing the "good guy" win can be satisfying, but honestly some of my favorite movies or tv shows are about shades of grey and the good guy doesn't always win.
yeah i can see how that would track
 

Nutluck

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Just not 50 shades of grey, fuck that shit.
I was more thinking of shows like the recent Arcane. Bad stuff happens to a lot of the characters both good and bad, I could understand everyones views on that show even if i didn't agree with them, I understood why they felt that way. And it didn't have a "happy" ending but it was one hell of a tv show.
 

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Is there plans for any more Anya or Kolka content soon?
yes and yes. Next release the Rex parties which feature heavily in Anya's story will get revamped and lurk is working on adding more Kolka stuff but he is REALLY slow at making content so I don't know if he will get it done in time for next release or not, all I can say is he is working on it.
 

Zara Scarlet

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If you stay at the hotel in St Petersburg, the Standard Room is identical to the Royal Suite. The first cost 1500 roubles a night, while the second cost 10,000 roubles a night. But there is no difference whatsoever between the two rooms, even though the hotel description claims the royal suite comes with a separate sitting room. But it doesn't. So why would anyone pay an extra 8500 roubles for the same room?

I didn't pay extra by the way, I used a save just to check out the difference. Thank goodness I did. What a scam!
 

Edebernd

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Hm, tried to download the All in One version. Worked so far that I could start it. Did the Study route, but after the character creation and basically in the university when the game should "start" it gives me the message

Location: Outdoor
Area: on visit
Line: 125
Code: 113
Desc: Label not found

So do I still have to download some image files or am I missing something else? Played an older version with the school route a few months back and it always worked good.

BTW, I only have that in the University route. Can still start and play both of the other routes. So I guess I just miss some file
 

ciderapple

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I remember there being a vaginal sex scene with the horse in a different version of this game. Are they ever going to put that back in?
 

Nutluck

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I remember there being a vaginal sex scene with the horse in a different version of this game. Are they ever going to put that back in?
No, for a variety of reasons, all beast stuff was removed by request of the majority of players, who mostly wanted it gone for legal reasons of having such images on their computer was illegal where they live. It was turned into a mod and you now have to install the mod if you want that content.
 

WalkTheEdge

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Hm, tried to download the All in One version. Worked so far that I could start it. Did the Study route, but after the character creation and basically in the university when the game should "start" it gives me the message

Location: Outdoor
Area: on visit
Line: 125
Code: 113
Desc: Label not found

So do I still have to download some image files or am I missing something else? Played an older version with the school route a few months back and it always worked good.

BTW, I only have that in the University route. Can still start and play both of the other routes. So I guess I just miss some file
Download the 0.8.6.2 (2nd fix) QSP and use that instead
 

ciderapple

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No, for a variety of reasons, all beast stuff was removed by request of the majority of players, who mostly wanted it gone for legal reasons of having such images on their computer was illegal where they live. It was turned into a mod and you now have to install the mod if you want that content.
Lets hope no one in china ever gets this game then, because all porn is illegal in china. Would make the game pretty boring ;D
 
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