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yeah if you can it is a bug and we will have to look into it.Tried entering the Casino, there's still no age restriction. Sveta can still enjoy underage gambling.
yeah if you can it is a bug and we will have to look into it.Tried entering the Casino, there's still no age restriction. Sveta can still enjoy underage gambling.
There was a time when busking could get fetch you as high as ₽3000+. The current build cuts it to 1/10th of that. But busking revenue isn't stable, even livestreaming can fetch you 0 rubles. I think the fees paid in modeling are kind of exploitative, the bastardsOnly tried busking once this version in Petrograd. Got like 100+ rubles (but with performance being low, 25 I think). To be fair I don't think busking should been able to compete with modelling or porn at $ per week either.
(I wish the game had a violin too, not only guitar.)
Huh, weird one that. I guess testers had money stashed and never saw it. Posting that fix!I don't know if this has been fixed yet but here is a small text bug:
stat_display - line 130 - add a <br> to the front of the text:
$stat_msg += '<br>You have <b><<money>> ₽</b> in your '+iif(bag > 0, 'purse.', 'pockets.')
Otherwise 'You' is on a separate line no matter how much you resize the window. I'm not sure why that is but it does look funny.
This job is too good to be true, that's why you can only get away with it by save scumming. We can't account for people save scumming.PS: To the devs... I personally think the cost / reward of the smuggling job is too good right now. Especially since save scummers can get around the 200k debt cost and only adding a few extra seconds to repeat the scenes without losing the envelope. To balance it better, I would add a slut / prostitution fame hit every time your Sveta goes into the porn studio. Possibly starting out as a minimal value the first time enter, but have exponential (or at least rapid) growth. After all, if a girl kept getting seen going into a porn studio in real life, people would start thinking she may be filming sex acts. Even if she is simply working innocently as a bookkeeper or in this case smuggling as a carrier in presumably a money laundering scheme.
True, I still would like to suggest the balancing by adding city fame though. Even without the save scum aspect I feel it should be added... and I have an in-game reason to support that.This job is too good to be true, that's why you can only get away with it by save scumming. We can't account for people save scumming.
We don't try and balance things for people that decided to cheat. I mean we have a money cheat. So no reason to savescum to get money, when you can just go into the cheat menu and give yourself millions of dollars.PS: To the devs... I personally think the cost / reward of the smuggling job is too good right now. Especially since save scummers can get around the 200k debt cost and only adding a few extra seconds to repeat the scenes without losing the envelope. To balance it better, I would add a slut / prostitution fame hit every time your Sveta goes into the porn studio. Possibly starting out as a minimal value the first time enter, but have exponential (or at least rapid) growth. After all, if a girl kept getting seen going into a porn studio in real life, people would start thinking she may be filming sex acts. Even if she is simply working innocently as a bookkeeper or in this case smuggling as a carrier in presumably a money laundering scheme.
Thanks, fix on repo.Another double screen bug:
sitrPar - between lines 91 and 92 - add a cls
Code:elseif locat['Mother'] = 24: cls '<center><img <<$set_imgh>> src="images/characters/pavlovsk/resident/mom/uborka1.jpg"></center>'
No one from school would know that she specifically when to a porn studio. This is the other issue, to be outside that studio to she her go in you have to already be in the Red Light district. Are you really going to gossip about the girls you see while hanging around there?True, I still would like to suggest the balancing by adding city fame though. Even without the save scum aspect I feel it should be added... and I have an in-game reason to support that.
Gossip at school currently already talks about how a certain girl is seen going into the city every week like clockwork and the girls think she is doing something involving sex. Now imagine if the gossipers witnessed Sveta entering that porn studio several different weeks, or even just once for that matter...
The pic on the phone is nude but we decided instead of showing you guys a dick we would show you what your Sveta was doing.Got this after the 27th time Kolka seen Sveta showering (was in the morning btw)
"Times you were exposed to others' nudity: 1"
EDIT: Ok, it doesn't seem restricted to Kolka. Reloaded a save and seduced stepfather which drove the incestuous counter up and "others' nudity" appeared too, but I thought it made sense there. Yet afterwards when I got another Kolka seeing Sveta in the showers, it didn't add to "other's nudity". Hmm, must be something with the 27 (incestuous sex counter) number...
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Worst random scene in school:
Adds "others' nudity" to stats, pic isn't nude. Pretty annoying when you're trying to avoid everything.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Also what's with the post-wall "girl"? Looks like 50yo or something.![]()
the one in the pic, those wrinkles, that plastic mouth. She belongs in the retirement home, not in highschool. Did that sveta repeated 30 years?The pic on the phone is nude but we decided instead of showing you guys a dick we would show you what your Sveta was doing.
Also what post-wall girl are you talking about.
You are right specifically about the porn studio. A normal unassuming doorway just wouldn't call attention to itself. Unless they had some kind of advertising outside the door saying what was inside it would be walked right by without investigation.No one from school would know that she specifically went to a porn studio. This is the other issue, to be outside that studio to she her go in you have to already be in the Red Light district. Are you really going to gossip about the girls you see while hanging around there?
Yeah, at the same time you see gossip about "muh so boring here, I can't wait to get to university in petersburg to fuck in dorm parties" or something like that. Gossip is still so and so. Got one where "muh swear I saw a porn star that looks like Sveta". The fuck? Famous top 5 fashion model, never had any sex, never seen lewd and this is what I hear in school? Not, "Wooow, how the fuck is that amazing girl an outcast still? Looks divine, famous model, spotless rep..."See gossip pieces about possible Baba Yaga curse, possible demon curse, and a witch who was killed for being too sexual so cursing all nearby to that. See gossip comparing sex rates with Moscow. See gossip about cousins who live outside the region entirely.
The gossip is just that, some of it is true, most is losely based on the truth and some is flat out false, either because the people gossiping got it wrong or someone started a vicious rumor to hurt someone. So a porn star that looks like Sveta could easily have been started by Christina for example or maybe it is true.Yeah, at the same time you see gossip about "muh so boring here, I can't wait to get to university in petersburg to fuck in dorm parties" or something like that. Gossip is still so and so. Got one where "muh swear I saw a porn star that looks like Sveta". The fuck? Famous top 5 fashion model, never had any sex, never seen lewd and this is what I hear in school? Not, "Wooow, how the fuck is that amazing girl an outcast still? Looks divine, famous model, spotless rep..."
"Well, she's a loner goth, maybe it's her choice? "
(btw I digress, but treatment from other NPC in school is based too much on clique)
back on topic, the bottom line is that the gossip in school is all over the place IMO
Man, that would be awesome.The stuff you mention below is more about reactions which is something we are working on this release. Where NPC's comment and react to Sveta fame, clothing, boob size, style of clothes etc. It won't all be done this release but once the framework is done we will slowly add more which will include adding more Sveta specific gossip both good, bad and neutral just commenting on her, like if she is dressed like a goth etc.
That's quite the wall of text. However fame in Pav based on what happened in the city is handled in the mechanics of the fame system. All that is input directly is fame gained in a region from acts in that region. So its not a question of someone in Pav school seeing her go into the porn studio, its a question of the people of St Pete's seeing her go in to a porn studio. The point about people already in the red light district not caring about seeing someone else there go in to the porn studio holds up in this case. This also means anything based on school gossip is not relevant as the gossip in the city doesn't involve any schools in the game.You are right specifically about the porn studio. A normal unassuming doorway just wouldn't call attention to itself. Unless they had some kind of advertising outside the door saying what was inside it would be walked right by without investigation.
But as for the red light district itself I have three rebuts... basically a big huge essay that can be summarized by saying, "You're wrong. In this game world of Pavlovsk at least they SO would do that especially if it meant a girl was the one gossiped about."
First rebuttal is the easiest. Most gossipers when ashamed to admit their own involvement simply add a degree of separation. "A friend of mine saw", "Someone I know well swears that", "It's true! one of my relatives saw it!", etc.
Second rebuttal is that your point would dismiss most normal (keyword will get into in third rebuttal point) girls from being the origin of the gossip... but the guys? Not every one of them of course, but at least a few would probably brag about visiting a red light district yes. And gossip is not just a girl thing - although admittedly for boys it tends to be more about self bragging and less about cutting down others. IC it would however not be even close to the first piece of gossip that spread from boys to girls - or even vice versa. (See gossip about "someone" - which later becomes a slut shame for Sveta after she actually has sex with those younger boys - watching porn and then having sex with Sveta's brother and his friends as told to the gossiper by her younger brother. See gossip about who various males claimed to have had sex with. Plus countless examples of boys talking about bisexual or lesbian girl encounters.
For that matter, even in a regular school there is almost inevitably going to be at least one person, usually a girl, with a really trashy oversexed rep that the whole school knows about anything she did remotely scandalous. And most boys will probably know about where the strip clubs are at and will brag about going to them despite being under-aged.
I remember when I was in 6th grade one time while changing classrooms I walked by a bunch of boys talking about visiting such a place after school. The reason I bring this up, about half an hour or so after school ended that day I was hanging out where my ride was supposed to pick me up at, but they had called to let me know they were going to be a work for at least another hour. Sitting there bored, I happened to witness a few of those same boys in a group passing by me, and with nothing else better to do with my time I followed them at a distance of a block or two away out of curiosity. Sure enough they eventually led me over to a building that was somewhat hiding on a back alley. It had neon lights saying things like "HOT HOT HOT" "GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS" and pink lips on its blacked out windows which was called if I remember correctly Starlight Emporium Lounge. Or at least it was some fancy name that was way over the top for its location and type of business. I never revisited the place as I had no interest, but apparently those boys and various others in the school did since it was not the last time I overheard someone quietly (or in some cases loudly bragging) talking about the place and rumors of a club nearby the school that featured nudity.
Yes, I never told anyone at school about following them there that day like you suggested about why Sveta wouldn't get told about. But my silence was not because I was afraid of my own rep, but rather because I didn't think anyone would think anything was wrong about those boys doing that, and I felt no need to boost those boys' reps. But if while there that time I had happened to see the school's Miss Popular or some such going in... well, I can almost guarantee you that I'd have told someone. Yes, it is a double standard, But it's one that we all lived with. Or at least in those days we did.
Third rebuttal, what exactly makes you say even the girls are truly not going to admit to it? After all, this is the community of Pavlovsk. A place which even the individual teens living there are well aware is extremely oversexed compared to other regions and even gossips about it. (See gossip pieces about possible Baba Yaga curse, possible demon curse, and a witch who was killed for being too sexual so cursing all nearby to that. See gossip comparing sex rates with Moscow. See gossip about cousins who live outside the region entirely.)
Now, the gossip about this is probably a tongue in cheek way of fourth wall admitting that the usual community is a bit more circumspect than basically a porn game makes them be just to give power to the mighty fap. But taking it as is in an in-character way, the curse itself doesn't even actually need to exist for it to have effected the population. Just by the mere rumor existing it acts as an excuse for behavior. I am going to semi quote a gossiper, "After all if there is a curse then it isn't my fault, right?"
History has abundantly proven that when humans have an excuse for bad behavior, that they then are more likely to become bolder in displaying that behavior. We know for a fact that some girls are uncaring about their reputation when it comes to being sexual beings (see Anushka for example,) and we also know that other girls are very quick to spread gossip (especially Lizaveta) gathered by others.
My points being that even if I tend to agree with your point in a normal school environment, I do not agree with it in this game's school perspective. In a place where people boldly have sex or imitate it in front of everyone, where people actively brag about visiting a brothel (See gossip again.), where girls routinely use their bodies to tease people (boys, other girls, and even adults,) and further wherein the inhabitants are constantly looking for something to say about others (especially if the targets are female,) it all adds up to a summation for me that I personally find too empowered to ignore.
I find it actually bizarre that schoolgirl Sveta could get away with going to the porn studio hundreds of times and risking being seen going into the district twice each time, without some kind of reputation getting applied. Even adult post-school Sveta I am unsure whether it could entirely be ignored. After all, Bella gets gossiped about merely for being seen going to the city every week. And that's just the city industrial not the red light district, yet even still the gossip claims she's sucking someone off just because it makes the gossip more salacious and with zero proof. (OOC I realize it is a way of warning Sveta's player that singing lessons risks sex acts from the instructor.)
Finally, I honestly feel like you are getting too caught up in the real world rather than remembering that this is an ero world / fap world where different societal rules and behaviors exist. Sveta hasn't a chance to avoid a rep of being a constant weekly visitor to the red light district.
True but also keep in mind most of the Pav kids don't go to the city and when they do, they tend to go to specific places like the mall etc. Not many are just going to be wandering around the industrial area.You are right specifically about the porn studio. A normal unassuming doorway just wouldn't call attention to itself. Unless they had some kind of advertising outside the door saying what was inside it would be walked right by without investigation.
But as for the red light district itself I have three rebuts... basically a big huge essay that can be summarized by saying, "You're wrong. In this game world of Pavlovsk at least they SO would do that especially if it meant a girl was the one gossiped about."
First rebuttal is the easiest. Most gossipers when ashamed to admit their own involvement simply add a degree of separation. "A friend of mine saw", "Someone I know well swears that", "It's true! one of my relatives saw it!", etc.
Very true and some of the gossip in school is boys talking.Second rebuttal is that your point would dismiss most normal (keyword will get into in third rebuttal point) girls from being the origin of the gossip... but the guys? Not every one of them of course, but at least a few would probably brag about visiting a red light district yes. And gossip is not just a girl thing - although admittedly for boys it tends to be more about self bragging and less about cutting down others. IC it would however not be even close to the first piece of gossip that spread from boys to girls - or even vice versa. (See gossip about "someone" - which later becomes a slut shame for Sveta after she actually has sex with those younger boys - watching porn and then having sex with Sveta's brother and his friends as told to the gossiper by her younger brother. See gossip about who various males claimed to have had sex with. Plus countless examples of boys talking about bisexual or lesbian girl encounters.
In GL that is Anushka, who has a oversexed rep, mostly because she is so open about it, while the rest of the girls tend to be a lot more discrete about any sex with they have.For that matter, even in a regular school there is almost inevitably going to be at least one person, usually a girl, with a really trashy oversexed rep that the whole school knows about anything she did remotely scandalous. And most boys will probably know about where the strip clubs are at and will brag about going to them despite being under-aged.
Yes some of the guys going there from time to time wouldn't be out of question, especially some of the gopniks. But still the odds of Sveta running into them wouldn't pretty low, as they would have to be in the same area of the red light district at the same time, when non of the pav kids would go all that often there, but a chance sure.I remember when I was in 6th grade one time while changing classrooms I walked by a bunch of boys talking about visiting such a place after school. The reason I bring this up, about half an hour or so after school ended that day I was hanging out where my ride was supposed to pick me up at, but they had called to let me know they were going to be a work for at least another hour. Sitting there bored, I happened to witness a few of those same boys in a group passing by me, and with nothing else better to do with my time I followed them at a distance of a block or two away out of curiosity. Sure enough they eventually led me over to a building that was somewhat hiding on a back alley. It had neon lights saying things like "HOT HOT HOT" "GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS" and pink lips on its blacked out windows which was called if I remember correctly Starlight Emporium Lounge. Or at least it was some fancy name that was way over the top for its location and type of business. I never revisited the place as I had no interest, but apparently those boys and various others in the school did since it was not the last time I overheard someone quietly (or in some cases loudly bragging) talking about the place and rumors of a club nearby the school that featured nudity.
Yes, I never told anyone at school about following them there that day like you suggested about why Sveta wouldn't get told about. But my silence was not because I was afraid of my own rep, but rather because I didn't think anyone would think anything was wrong about those boys doing that, and I felt no need to boost those boys' reps. But if while there that time I had happened to see the school's Miss Popular or some such going in... well, I can almost guarantee you that I'd have told someone. Yes, it is a double standard, But it's one that we all lived with. Or at least in those days we did.
I made all those and they was more tongue and cheek, 4th wall breaking of me making fun of the game I work on. But there is a kernel of truth in them, the magic side of the game exist in the non magic play through. Just Sveta is unaware of it and unless it was change something did happen long ago in the magic side of the game that effect the whole region around Pav including the city but to a lesser degree, that makes people overly sexual.Third rebuttal, what exactly makes you say even the girls are truly not going to admit to it? After all, this is the community of Pavlovsk. A place which even the individual teens living there are well aware is extremely oversexed compared to other regions and even gossips about it. (See gossip pieces about possible Baba Yaga curse, possible demon curse, and a witch who was killed for being too sexual so cursing all nearby to that. See gossip comparing sex rates with Moscow. See gossip about cousins who live outside the region entirely.)
Now, the gossip about this is probably a tongue in cheek way of fourth wall admitting that the usual community is a bit more circumspect than basically a porn game makes them be just to give power to the mighty fap. But taking it as is in an in-character way, the curse itself doesn't even actually need to exist for it to have effected the population. Just by the mere rumor existing it acts as an excuse for behavior. I am going to semi quote a gossiper, "After all if there is a curse then it isn't my fault, right?"
I will end with, you do get a reputation for going to do modeling or porn. It is part of the city slut rep and it bleeds over into Pav at a reduced rate. So what you are talking about already happens, what doesn't happen currently is there is no blatant content that points it out, it just adds a little to your pav slut rep as well which impacts how the kids in school react to you. With that said we are building a reactions code this release, it will this release mostly just be the framework and some reactions. But the idea is to add tags so NPC's will start to react to things about your character. Obviously it will be limited on where and when they react and we have to write all the reactions so it will take us a long time to get them all done but it is coming and things like this could be added after that. Like a small chance each time Sveta goes that it can trigger a new school rumor like what you suggested, but it won't be any time soon and we are unlikely to write a event where Sveta is caught red handed so to speak.History has abundantly proven that when humans have an excuse for bad behavior, that they then are more likely to become bolder in displaying that behavior. We know for a fact that some girls are uncaring about their reputation when it comes to being sexual beings (see Anushka for example,) and we also know that other girls are very quick to spread gossip (especially Lizaveta) gathered by others.
My points being that even if I tend to agree with your point in a normal school environment, I do not agree with it in this game's school perspective. In a place where people boldly have sex or imitate it in front of everyone, where people actively brag about visiting a brothel (See gossip again.), where girls routinely use their bodies to tease people (boys, other girls, and even adults,) and further wherein the inhabitants are constantly looking for something to say about others (especially if the targets are female,) it all adds up to a summation for me that I personally find too empowered to ignore.
I find it actually bizarre that schoolgirl Sveta could get away with going to the porn studio hundreds of times and risking being seen going into the district twice each time, without some kind of reputation getting applied. Even adult post-school Sveta I am unsure whether it could entirely be ignored. After all, Bella gets gossiped about merely for being seen going to the city every week. And that's just the city industrial not the red light district, yet even still the gossip claims she's sucking someone off just because it makes the gossip more salacious and with zero proof. (OOC I realize it is a way of warning Sveta's player that singing lessons risks sex acts from the instructor.)
Finally, I honestly feel like you are getting too caught up in the real world rather than remembering that this is an ero world / fap world where different societal rules and behaviors exist. Sveta hasn't a chance to avoid a rep of being a constant weekly visitor to the red light district.
It's coming, it just will take awhile. This release will be getting the code work and some reactions, after that each release we will add a little more but it will take while to get even most of them done. As we don't plan to focus on it, just add a little at a time each release, because focusing on seeding one thing tends to burn people out.Man, that would be awesome.