VN - Ren'Py - Give Me a Sun [v7.5] [Namco15]

The animations and characters all look great, The first taste of story seems very promising.
But what the hell is going on? There are flashbacks within flashbacks then you never get back to what was happening in the first place. This game seemed solid for the first bit then just went into a fever dream of flashbacks all happening at different time periods until you end up confused not even sure what is happening or has happened meanwhile the cliff hanger from the previous flashback never gets resolved.

I was really looking forward to a game full of sexy elves but all i got was really confused.

I guess I'll join the "... what the fuck is even happening" ranks here.
It was easy enough to follow in the beginning, but more and more people and past events are introduced without any context or explanation and it just keeps happening. I've only just finished what looks like the first episode/chapter, and I already have no idea what's happening or who is who, or what even the current goal of the MC is.
There's a really solid story in here, I can feel it, but the way it is told just makes it completely impossible to follow.

v7.5
Severely underrated...
Ignore the past low ratings about the story...
Pay attention, read, it's not difficult to see what's going on in the scenes, and when it is supposed to have occurred.

In the past, yeah, the story might have been a struggle with the flashbacks, and the updates hadn't gotten the story back to the "present", yet. But, the story has made it back to "now", the pieces are fitting together nicely and the bigger picture, path going forward is clearer...

There are a couple of "update breaks", that should probably be removed to make the story more seamless. But, they're kind of like commercial breaks, and don't take anything away from being able to follow the events.

Overall, excellent story, excellent renders.
And well, if you're having trouble with the story...stick to coloring books and comics... This isn't a click through to the sex scenes kind of VN...

I like the renders. It does have good renders. Yes- Indeed it does have very good renders. That's most of it.

Let me begin by saying that I want to like it. I really do. Sci-Fi with Fantasy?! What's not to like?- Besides the constant reminder of whatever comes to the mc's mind (even though, she will elaborate it out loud, then proceed to act on it), the pety drama, lack of interpersonality and... why is everybody emotionaly unstable?

Now, on the story-telling side: It takes way to long to conect the dots, which makes all the randomnes even more confusing. But fortunately it can't be compared to those names that every time I try to pronounce I feel like I'm reading a new generation slang.

Again, I see potential in the project. There's a lot in it: Solid background, elfs, conflits (some just look like excessive drama, but still...). There are things that aren't feasable to see in a single project and should problably be avoided, but who knows, maybe you'll surprise us. I want to see what it will become in a few years, but for now, outside the renders that are very good- Indeed, beautiful renders. There's nothing more appealing.

i was in love with the game at first, and the first flashback activated, and i hit control to see how many time it lasted, and i stopped the game after seeing minutes of speed up text, and flashback after flashback.

It's sad to see the first story they shown you is stopped with no reason for multiple flashback and story so complicated by so many move in time that i decided to drop.

Sad as i would have supported the story before actual the first flashback (to the hand cut (for no spoil))

I have absolutely no idea what is supposed to be happening here. This has to be the most confusing thing I've ever tried to play. Flashbacks within flashbacks, mixing of worlds and genres, and really just no discernable story whatsoever.

It's too bad, really. Love a cute elf girl. Even more so an apparent city full of them. But it's impossible to like when even aside from the story, the MC's personality is all over the place. Confident and commanding to shy and pitiful in an instant.

I'd love to say this could get better, but I really don't think I could force myself to pay attention long enough to see any improvements.

V7.0 Reviews
I don't understand the storytelling method. The background of the story is confusing, while the narratives and flashbacks make the story even more confusing. I guess the author tried to use a cinematic method to tell the story, but the sudden transitions/ flashbacks with unexplained plots just make me unable to understand what the author wants to tell.
A world with monsters, Mid Ages' scenarios, and modern technologies really cuts apart the stories badly.
The only worth being mentioned part is the graphics.

honestly... i have a feeling that 99% of the story so far was unplanned. how the hell did we go from naive yet fun lesbian elf saves redheads to... whatever this is?

why was everything we saw a flashback? and flashbacks within flashbacks? why should i root for whatever Celeste wants to do (which is allegedly protecting her 'loved ones') when i can't even tell who she loves and who she doesn't? the whole Isolytra (whatever her name was) plot seems to be leading to an execution/betrayal by Celeste and the hacker girl or something. why the hell is hacker girl such a bitch? TELL HER WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH HER! this is why i'm getting 'we're planning to kill you' vibe.

and why the hell is Celeste meeting her niece behind her mother's back? i don't really care about contrived plot reasons the longer you put off admitting you're related to her, and meeting her the right way with her mother present, the less she'll trust you when she finally finds out, and this is without her even knowing about the secret meetings mind you, which again is very fucked up. DON'T MEET OTHER PEOPLE'S KIDS IN SECRET GUYS!

and this was, again, all flashbacks! circling back to the first sentence, this is why this feels unplanned. its like there was an attempt to JUST do a "i'm sure you're wondering how i got here" flashback but it spiraled and spiraled into whatever this is. weird pointless drama, mystery, backstabbing, and intrigue that feels like it has no stakes cuz well... come on, no one is killing our MC or her fan favorite harem. flashbacks made it clear she always wins and is badass and is so cool omg u guys... which i have no issue with when i'm just looking to jerk it mind you.

and dev if you read my retarded ramblings (thx) plz know im not trying to be mean im just blueballed... i can count the sex scenes with one hand, the other is wiping away the tears on how little sex there was. and when there's little sex i focus on the story... and i have VERY high standards when it comes to storytelling.

also amazing renders and artstyle, 10/10.

EDIT version 7.5 :
This AVN (kinetic novel) remains my undeniable favorite, as the graphics are so successful and the heroine is so beautiful! The theme and the city... great! However, I must say that this latest version (7.5) is not as good as the previous ones! Unfortunately, the overuse of flashbacks reveals a major weakness in the narrative construction! So yes, the story is complex, but it is up to the developers to help us grasp things, so rather than making flashbacks upon flashbacks, it would be better to create a prologue or even include a manual or glossary in the game to help the reader find their way around!
Finally, the overuse of connotations: Roman, medieval, Viking... are starting to harm the story. You have to choose and not spread yourself too thin! Finally, there is a huge lack of erotic and intimate scenes! How can you have such a gem in your hands and manage to make it indigestible and devoid of eroticism!
Developer, pull yourself together!!! My rating remains 5/5 for the moment because the whole thing is so promising. I'm still a contributor for the moment (not under this pseudonym, obviously) until the next update.

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This original version is a wonderful discovery.
The characters are among the most beautiful I've ever seen. The story is a little confusing, but there's some progression in the construction, and it's original. There's no vulgarity or overabundance of monstrosity, latent eroticism, and no over-the-top pornography. The biggest criticism is the length of the flashbacks, which end up slowing down the pace, but it must be admitted that sometimes it's very useful for giving meaning to the story and really understanding certain characters.
On the other hand, as I already said, the aesthetic is excellent, so I say BRAVO; we become attached to the central characters, especially the MC, who is magnificently done. I'm a fan! 4/5 because it's not finished yet.

I went into this game blind just off the visuals. The visuals are absolutely amazing. But the story is a god awful mess. You meat these sisters at the beginning they are pretty awesome really. Then it introduces the heroine okay so far. Then you reach the city and it is a complete and utter cluster f***k after that. Character after character gets introduce, you are in different genre's Here's viking here's that here's this setting. And Those nice sisters just disappear from the story. This is like an author took every idea they ever had and just went yeah that will fit. they clearly want to tell a story. But even in professional writing or movie telling flooding the material with characters is almost always a death sentence. It becomes to hard to know or remember who anyone is. I really wanted to like this one.

"Confusing" as a critique usually is the result of "the expectador wasn't really paying attention" Not in this case. I started lose my focus because i wasn't understading what the fuck was going on, and instead of being a

"Look, something mysterious is happenning" and going to something else, leaving it to marinate and show more context later, it just
keeps
fkng
going


The MC is weirdly written, is she shy or confident? Strong or weak? Dominant or passive? Honestly, i don't know. It is thrown all over the place, with little explanation on the inner toughts to guide you if she is pretending or what, or why she have such mood swings.

Choices seem to be mostly 1) Do you want content or 2) nO ThanksU!!

The written is kinda bland, not too bad, but adds to the overall negative impression, excessive haha and ! are kinda pet peeve of mine so, didn't really work out.

I like the renders. I like the characters. I like the world that the story is built in. But I have never been more confused playing through a VN as I have with this one.
It seems to jump from different timeliness and I can't get a grasp on wtf is actually going on and just got kinda frustrated.

Version 0.4.5

First impression:
*An pós apocalyptic world with only full-lesbian women. And they're fucking beautiful!! Seriouslly, the models are the best I ever seen in any game on this Forum!

* Then there is men in this world too. (ok I can cope with that)

* But then there is a shirtless men... (thats disapointing)

* The world is well written and the characters are complex (but the dev don't know how to actually tell the story so it's all fucking confusing and I don't have a clue of what is going on...)

I really want to like this game and at least finish this version but my brain hurts... Maybe I'm just too dumb for it, so I give up '-'

Usually when I cannot decide between 4 stars or 5, I go with 4. In this case I felt like that wasn't quite right, and I should wait for one more update before reviewing, and I'm glad I did.

There are two problems with this game- some bad ESL stuff (using "his" instead of "her" for instance) and the fact that the plot is huge, convoluted, and confusing as fuck.

The first one I decided I could forgive because the author is making a conscious effort to get more proofreading in, and with each release things get better.

The second one ebbed when I realized (a) the game was not SUPPOSED to make sense yet, we only have a little of the picture and (b) it's going to be a multi-playthrough kind of game and that's just all there is to it.

Once I made peace with the idea that fully enjoying this game was going to take a serious commitment I was able to get past my concerns and just really appreciate how fucking *good* the game is. Here's what I like about it:

* The art. Namco15 has been around for a while and has a reputation for amazing 3D work, and this is his best stuff yet. The girls are just..... beautiful. And not in a plastic idol kind of way, he is a master of posing - their body language and expressions make them seem so very real.

* The subject matter. Sci fi world building is great when done well, and this ain't bad. H-wise, it's a lesbian harem -- and *what* a harem. I _like_ the characters, they are amazing, and every one of them is a stunner.

* Intangibles. Namco is just a nice guy, and he runs the community well and is good to his patrons. Sure, it'd be nice if he released more often, but given the massive sizes of the updates and the very high quality of the content, it's overall very good.


Anyway, I figured I owed the game 5 stars when I found myself actually getting emotional at someone that hurt the MC. Not just like "Oh, that sucked", but like really outraged. If a game can suck in someone as jaded as I am, it's pretty fucking good.

Short summary:


Very strange setting, that intrigues with uniqueness, but ends up just disappointing for not being developed well. Writing is bad. Some girl models and some renders are nice. Hard to follow or care for what’s going on.



Good Things

• Some girls are pretty hot
• Some kissing and lewd scenes are hot

Bad points

• Story is fucked up and all over the place
• No believable relationship buildup
• Cartoony character models

This is a really decent game, I prefer adult VN with an actual story to tell, this is one is a really well made, that has a pretty decent plot, the renders, the music has all been put together really nicely, on the plus side that you can play as a lesbian which I prefer, only downside is, the writing, but, as with everything in life, it can be improved over time, but it does not put me off the story or the game, I understand the story, loving the characters, wish nothing but the best for the future of this game.

I love this story line. Might be the best I've encountered (amongst many other great stories) on this website. It's confusing to begin with but starting to take shape with each update. Orchestrated like a good novel. Worth the wait. And yes, the graphics are just as good. Keep up the amazing work!

The story is a mess. What the developer has ended up doing is building a prologue of the story into the middle of this story as one huge confusing flashback. It got so bad that can't make heads or tails out of it at all.

So what you end up with is too many characters with the past of Celeste who did not start out the protagonist but apparently must of become the protagonist and the 2 girls who are Red and was the story is no longer the story.

This is a disaster for any novel and fails miserably as a story.

If you don't mind this nonsense it has great art and scenes so you can just fast forward to see that if you want, but I just want a story that is good and can be followed.

Man, I really like what they are going for. No dicks, matter of fact casual nudity and an incredibly ambitious story... which is where the game falls flat on its face and as a result it unfortunately is just about as sexy as someone faceplanting into a turd. The game starts out with a warning about the western sensibilities and explicitly humor of it's writer and then proceeds to pay homage to straight up copy jokes from manga and anime. (mostly Naruto, from which it seems to lift heavy story inspirations as well) I was way too invested in wondering how that could've possibly been lost on them or which direction they thought they would have to travel to reach Japan from their (likely German) point of origin, to even think about rubbing one out. And yeah, their English is terrible. That even gets acknowledged at some point (I think, it's at the end of the first release), just as they acknowledge the obvious "inspiration" by Naruto. But they also seem to think that their laguage skills are the issue (It's not good, granted), when in fact this convoluted mess of time jumping exposition dumpery would be atrocious in any language. They have something here, but to make it comprehensible, I'd encourage them to give the script to someone impartial or at least try to explain what's going on to someone and take note whenever they say "what?". Most games available here aren't masterpieces of literature, but I can't remember looking at a scene I should find really hot, with the dialogue just killing it dead.

Written as of version: 0.3.1
Score: 4,5/5
Tldr: The game is very confusing.

Weak points: very confusing; limited choices.
Neutral: good lesbian scenes; only partially covered by good music and sounds; amount of content; lack of animations; lack of voice acting.
Strongpoints: beautifully looking and interesting, rather chaotic characters, MC included; captivating and chaotic story; mysteries; graphic; performance

Play, if you: want to feel confused/disoriented, think of yourself as an intelligent/wise person, like mysteries/unanswered questions (mostly not directly introduced), like lesbian porn. Possibly sapiosexual people may enjoy it.

Warning: Don’t play, if you tend to overthink, unless you are a masochist with lots of free time.

1. Confusing.

The game could use codex or at least summary. Even some games that didn’t need it, use it. This game needs it very much. I get a feeling that the game is based on dreams that were partially forgotten and glued together by imaginary connections. Chaos everywhere.

Some things that account to chaos:
1) Mostly construction, where we have retrospectives in retrospect, getting back into previous retrospect, and adding new retrospect into it and so on. That’s much more chaotic than One Thousand and One Nights construction. Players sometimes can force MC to not retrospect, but it only causes them to miss lots of content and information (from essential to trivial and miscellaneous). Game could use a chronologically sorted summary after each chapter. At least something like a buildable summary, that is going to be a full summary after all chapters, because dev is jumping on the timeline extensively.

2) What’s more, there are a lot of mysteries and questions and MC is a schemer. And dev isn’t using all opportunities to explain schemes to players, not even only MC’s schemes.
It’s also hard to classify MC’s mind. I’m not even sure if her mind can be judged as “female mind” or “male mind”.

3) Also, English in the game isn’t perfect. There is a visible difference in quality between english till 0.3 and in the 0.3 part, but even in the proofread part I saw at least two cases where “her” and “his” were used incorrectly. At least I hope so, because if characters were referring to some other characters in the conservation with different gender, I had no idea who they referred to (it wasn’t clearly stated in these already confusing conversations).

4) References. Funny thing is that even if you know the references it doesn’t help, but makes everything more muddy, because usually it serves as distractions, not the explanation to anything (at least those that I deciphered).

5) Setting.
Setting should be almost the sole confusing factor and rest should be worked on imo.

2. Choices
They are only used to determine whether the MC is romantically interested in the given character and whether the player wants to see the retrospec.