Good gameplay in adult games

[eroticview]

What do you think about adult games that have a lot of good game mechanics like in roleplay games, they're suppose to be games, but I've seen people who just skipped it and go right to the sexual content or that they think is annoying. So, do you like to have gameplay, and if so, what kind of gameplay mechanics do you prefer?

 

[Thanescara]

I prefer games that keeps me engaged in terms of gameplay either by having deep RPG mechanics ( like LonaRPG ) such as corruption stats, combat stats, bounty and etc. Or a compelling metroidvania platformer like ( like Crisis Point: Extinction ).

Interesting Themes & OST is also a plus like Alice in Cradle

 

[Hagatagar]

but I've seen people who just skipped it and go right to the sexual content or that they think is annoying.

Oh, you mean like the cookie cutter unimaginative combat systems of the RPGMaker games? Which are often so terrible and repetitive (especially if the dev doesn't give a shit about adapting the combat system to his world or even change anything from the default settings) and all they then do is to artificially extend the playtime with their needless grind and to stand in the way of the story and porn?

Nooo, I would never skip those...

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

I very rarely play VNs, I want some kind of meaningful gameplay though my standards are far lower compared to non-H games. Here are the ones I've enjoyed.

 

[eroticview]

Oh, you mean like the cookie cutter unimaginative combat systems of the RPGMaker games? Which are often so terrible and repetitive (especially if the dev doesn't give a shit about adapting the combat system to his world or even change anything from the default settings) and all they then do is to artificially extend the playtime with their needless grind and to stand in the way of the story and porn?

Nooo, I would never skip those...

Alright, if you are talking about the v.0.1 is the first update and of course is not complex right now. It have zero grinding because is entirely optional to do it to complete the update. I actually thought to erase it after the first fight you have to do, you can even avoid it if you escape the battle , but I left those game mechanics in case some people want it to explore those maps and see more combat.

I do adapt the combat system to the overall mechanics by connecting the "real world" and the other dimension. You get money in the other dimension and you spend the money in the "real world" to buy items, and later on will be a lot more like weapons, armors and so on. Also, the explorations is connect between those realities, by finding the "portal" that connect the 2 realities.

I do change pretty much everything of the default setting, I even used some plugins to improve the combat, every skills has their own name and ability, the enemy have a unique weak point. Also, If you look at the default setting you see the damages and lives stats are completely different from my game. Moreover, I used plugins to show enemies lives: and make quality of live improves and add mechanics that I want to implement, like skills that requires to spend life points.

I appreciate all your feedback. Thank you for your comment.

 

[GPoint]

As a player: I only play visual novels and I DO NOT like it when the author adds mechanics that complicate one-handed gameplay or interrupt the story so much that you fall out of immersion and storytelling.
An example of a bad mechanic is the pizza delivery grind in Summer Saga. Or the combat system in Being a Dick, it’s generally unclear why it’s there. Cut it out and you won't lose anything. The plot has nothing to do with this. I came to read and jerk off my dick, not my brain and nerves. Therefore, from what I have seen in VN - different lines of behavior depending on the answer options - is the best I have seen if it leads to a significant change in the plot. But... If it’s just playing out 10 phrases, which will then return you to the main thread, then what the hell is it for.

When I started making my game, I tried to add a relationship system with characters that would then change the content as the game progressed. But I VERY quickly realized that this inflates the amount of work by 3-4 times, while the player who chose his line of behavior will not see 70% of the game, because he chose one of the paths. And it turns out that you spend a lot of time and effort on content that no one will see. The question is - why? It’s better to make the main story that you personally like longer and of better quality.

This is actually why my first project quickly got rid of these elements and became an almost purely kinetic VN.
The next one will be a little more difficult technically, but not much.

 

[MarshmallowCasserole]

So, do you like to have gameplay, and if so, what kind of gameplay mechanics do you prefer?

Good ones.

However, in my experience, good art in adult games is easy to come by, good writing is rarer, and a good game designer is a unicorn. There are a lot of games with decent art, a sizeable fraction of them with decent writing, and at best only a couple percent with good gameplay. So I can understand people who say they don't want gameplay at all, because an average game would benefit from gameplay simplified or disabled. Because on average it is just BAD. All those cookie cutter RPGM games with "combat" are trash.

Personally, I love games with interesting mechanics. But I think there's a pretty high bar, these mechanics have to stand on their own. One of the fundamental concepts in game design is called MVP: minimum viable prototype. It's a version of the game stripped down to the core mechanics, with no content. And it has to be fun.

I feel most adult game devs do not make MVPs at all, they start with a concept of a story or just sex scenes and treat game mechanics as a vessel to deliver or gate porn. Which is why their gameplay sucks big time.

 

[GPoint]

Good ones.

However, in my experience, good art in adult games is easy to come by, good writing is rarer, and a good game designer is a unicorn. There are a lot of games with decent art, a sizeable fraction of them with decent writing, and at best only a couple percent with good gameplay. So I can understand people who say they don't want gameplay at all, because an average game would benefit from gameplay simplified or disabled. Because on average it is just BAD. All those cookie cutter RPGM games with "combat" are trash.

Personally, I love games with interesting mechanics. But I think there's a pretty high bar, these mechanics have to stand on their own. One of the fundamental concepts in game design is called MVP: minimum viable prototype. It's a version of the game stripped down to the core mechanics, with no content. And it has to be fun.

I feel most adult game devs do not make MVPs at all, they start with a concept of a story or just sex scenes and treat game mechanics as a vessel to deliver or gate porn. Which is why their gameplay sucks big time.

If someone can come up with good original game mechanics, then it would be more rational to make a game without porn. There will be a larger audience. This is probably why there are almost no of them here, only those who really want to make a porn game.

 

[MarshmallowCasserole]

If someone can come up with good original game mechanics, then it would be more rational to make a game without porn. There will be a larger audience. This is probably why there are almost no of them here, only those who really want to make a porn game.

Larger audience, but also higher saturation with good game designs.

On the other hand, a lot of successful WEGs have gameplay, or have ambitions goals about gameplay. So it's worth considering, at least.

 

[anne O'nymous]

If someone can come up with good original game mechanics, then it would be more rational to make a game without porn.

Just the novelty for the game engine is already enough to make them want to target a bigger market. Reason why RPG Maker games and Ren'Py ones tend to all feel the same. If you're good enough to overpass the limits of those game engines, you generally want the whole world to witness it, not just a bunch of pervert that will perhaps not even notice it.

 

[GPoint]

Just the novelty for the game engine is already enough to make them want to target a bigger market. Reason why RPG Maker games and Ren'Py ones tend to all feel the same. If you're good enough to overpass the limits of those game engines, you generally want the whole world to witness it, not just a bunch of pervert that will perhaps not even notice it.

I wouldn't call my audience a bunch of perverts In my opinion - wonderful people At least - most of them Even they don't just jerk off to the monotonous porn from Pornhub, they need a plot! Connoisseurs, not perverts!

 

[Room34]

Pro-gameplay games can't really blend well with pro-porn stuff.

Things like choices, point and click stuffs, achievements, minigames, etc.. (aka the things that can be beneficial for the story while using only one hand) peak gameplay for adult games.

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or VR type tools can change the way we play those games though.

 

[rk-47]

Gameplay that is good is if it has rpg elements (minigames, activities and bonus extras to do) where you can earn money, improve character stats and get h side content that isnt to do with the main story, all this in a renpy games (not rpgm) makes it much more fun to play, for example, man of the house enables this on a time based system, as does summertime saga

 

[Deleted member 4771842]

What do you think about adult games that have a lot of good game mechanics like in roleplay games, they're suppose to be games, but I've seen people who just skipped it and go right to the sexual content or that they think is annoying. So, do you like to have gameplay, and if so, what kind of gameplay mechanics do you prefer?

Let's be honest, pervs are mostly among young people, which prefer more action and less thinking.
If you wish to satisfy needs of most perverts, go for less thinking and more action. But most people are not perverts, or at least they are scared to look like them, because social opinion is a pain in the ass. It is more profitable to look after people with free time and common needs.

But what do you truly wish? Satisfy people's needs for material compensation or let your creativity flourish with a risk to not gain any material compensation?

 

[anne O'nymous]

I wouldn't call my audience a bunch of perverts In my opinion - wonderful people At least - most of them Even they don't just jerk off to the monotonous porn from Pornhub, they need a plot! Connoisseurs, not perverts!

There's no shame in being a pervert, and personally I always thought that we are wonderful people precisely because of this.

 

[nulnil]

For me, gameplay is a must-have. I'm open to pretty much any genre of game outside of rythm.

 

[| Vee |]

What do you think about adult games that have a lot of good game mechanics like in roleplay games, they're suppose to be games, but I've seen people who just skipped it and go right to the sexual content or that they think is annoying. So, do you like to have gameplay, and if so, what kind of gameplay mechanics do you prefer?

That do not have these https://f95zone.to/threads/what-turns-you-off-about-a-game-almost-immediately.170757/#post-11470941 are what make a good story.
Remember
Story+Porn > Story > Mindless Porn

 

[tylex]

If I like the porn but not the gameplay I'll find a way to skip to them. I don't look at smut games expecting great gameplay, I'm mostly in it for the porn.

 

[BeelzeRog]

I like gameplay in my games. I'm not an AVN player for the most part. If I play a game like that, I prefer something akin to a point-n-click game like classic Leisure Suit Larry, so ones like Jerry Wanker or Space Rescue Code Pink. Otherwise, I'm not a one-handed player... though I've been known to pause a game if a scene is really hot.

Personally prefer open-world games like Wild Life or Sunbay City. Otherwise I play modded games, because who doesn't want eyecandy when they play.

 

[CacodemonLover]

i recommend echidna wars dx, its a side scroller with some way above average h-game gameplay. it has vore tho so if you hate it dont bother.
i dont have a link to it