version 0.30 was a rewrite so yeah all saves from before are broken and the games been quite broken since they added the first half of chapter 4, i recommend either waiting for all of chapter 4 to come out and check the thread to see if the bugs are fixed or try find version 0.32.0.7, thats the version i've been using from before chapter 4 and i got through it without any crashes or bugs
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Thanks. The thing is, I actually deleted the whole game before downloading it again and have no idea why I still have old save files on my PC. I also started a new game and can't save/load new save files. Also can't delete old files (from within the game).
I actually also had save/load errors last year, which was the reason why I stopped playing back then.
Save files for games are usually saved in the documents folder, separate from the actual installation file itself.
for windows the saves for most games are usually in the User>AppData>Roaming folders
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Yeah, did some digging and found out it's one of THOSE kind of games...
So I deleted everything there, downloaded the game again and everything worked...for about twenty minutes. Now I have the same issue again. Game crashes as soon as I click either save or load. Sucks
Use autosaves as much as you can. Rename them and something like that. I have the same problem with saves, so I learned to do that to prevent it.Yeah, did some digging and found out it's one of THOSE kind of games...
So I deleted everything there, downloaded the game again and everything worked...for about twenty minutes. Now I have the same issue again. Game crashes as soon as I click either save or load. Sucks
Honestly, I feel sad for this game. The older intro was much better. Slower, but made sense with the Pokémon setting. Grind is unavoinable (and I don't mind it), but now we still have the same old bugs with a "new" rushed Prologue and some features less. Maybe dev decided to show the gold early in attempt to attract more players.
Cube World feelings for this one.
Cube World feelings for this one.
I can hardly wait for the update. So much itching for continuation of the story, a new Haremon and the Awakening.
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I'm confused every time someone brings this up. This game does harem better than most games/media. The lover status is for the girl you have closest to you. The girls all know you fuck them. But one girl is your lover. In real harems theres is a head of the harem despite the number of wives. Every harem is polygamist but not every polygamy is a harem. Harems can have multiple wives and some concubines like the sultans had. Or there can be one wife and many concubines like the emperor of japan had(Similar to haremon.) Two harems but different numbers of wives. Most harem anime never have the guy decide who hes going to marry for this reason. Letting people belive their "Best Girl" was the head.
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According to the code there will never be a feature to have multiple 'lovers'. They would have to rewrite key functions of the code and I cant imagine them doing that with the game a third the way done. Even if you play on "Harem mode" Its buggy to all fuck because the code isn't built to play like that.
Diction arguments aside from a gameplay and character perspective it's just kind of annoying. The game doesn't really have enough replayability or content to justify playing the game multiple times to see the lover scenes(given there's only one of them and people already have problems with the gameplay) From a character perspective no one wants to make waifus sad from having to dump them just because you want to see an extra scene from one of the characters.
To address the diction argument: you're correct that harems have multiple interpretations from harem anime to multiple concubines with one(main) wife, but the game is presented like a porn game and people are going to assume it's going to work like the standard porn game harem. Sure it has anime elements, but the harem clearly doesn't work like the standard harem anime given we're allowed to fuck them, and even then actual polygamy has become more common. I don't think anyone thought it would be similar to having concubines given the presentation either.
Well said. I never knew I needed that explanation.
Is there a way to rename Haremon? I named my Witch "Hazel" and that got confusing when an NPC was introduced with the same name.
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I don't mean to be insulting when I say this. The complaint about multiple play-through's being annoying is not valid for a single fact. We have only 1 third of the game. This would be fine criticism if it was a full release but it isn't and I dont believe the complaint about repeatability is in fair taste at all so aside from addressing it I'm just gonna leave that there.
Specifically about the harem aspect. Your response makes no sense, to me. Its important that you understand that your offense makes no sense regarding what lumen said. You don't have to defend his position. But. I will say that Every harem type save a few rare cases has a main wife/girl that's all the lover tag is used for. The lover tag might change name but will remain. Unless they rewrite the code(for the what 3rd time?) they will not be changing this from what it has. As I explained in my disjointed second post the code has been changed several times and the single "Lover" has not changed, its very unlikely they will go to make the game bigger and then change the code again to deal with a few peoples sensibilities.
yeh, call them into your room and i believe there you can change their name.
If you want me to reiterate my argument about harems then I will do so. What I'm disagreeing with is "When you say that Every harem type save a few rare cases has a main wife/girl that's all the lover tag is used for." Words have different meanings in different contexts, and the examples you pulled up for concubines or having a "main wife" may have been common in real life, but in the context of porn games, the word "harem" is usually referring to the "Harem Route" coined by eroge(japanese porn visual novels). The "Harem Route" is usually (with some exceptions) all the girls treated fairly equally, I can name a few with a "main wife" but those aren't in the majority, and usually show you being an actual ruler (IE Ravager). This game is both aesthetically a porn game and anime, so when it uses the word "harem" people would more likely assume it's following the definition that most other porn games ascribe to. For that reason, I wouldn't really call this an example of "doing harem's better than most" but more a miscommunication of what the devs and players think a harem is, and why players tend to get frustrated when the game doesn't deliver what its name assumed to have promised to them.
I'm also not sure how much I buy the argument that the devs just outright can't impliment it as a feature, having screwed around with cheat engine not even using the in-game cheat I've been able to use harem mode with no more issues than anyone else would have normally
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Saying the same thing isn't a response, but there was something new and I want to focus on that. The Harem Route, where you get most or all of the girls in a fully equal relationship does not exist and if it does its rare. Even if it did its usually some vague ending.
This guy wants a full game where you can fully max romances. The lover status is a little gift for those who put one girl above the others. Take vex for example. Your devotion to her is what allows her to feel vulnerable enough to open up to you. Its absolutely integral to her as a character. Narratively Being able to get that while claiming that level of devotion for the others ruins her arc. They will not ruin the characters stories for the sake of an official option. They may keep the option for harem mode in the debug version but it wont be a real feature. Fucking quote me on it. And shove it in my face if you want. But considering what TsunAmi have said about their care for the narrative and having the characters feel like real people. Vex is already ok with you fucking around and even after lover status she doesn't care if you fuck the other girls but she is obviously very possessive. It would ruin her arc if she was just OK with it.
Separately from the nerrative resons for it not being a good thing. To address the Code issue. You just don't understand how code is developed. This isnt a game with a framework like rpg maker. The game is ground up. If they were gonna add it in it would be in the 30% complete or bellow. If you genuinely thing rebuilding the code from 50% or more to add a feature your insane. As for you having no issues with Harem mode. Congrats I havent had that experience at all, showing it not as simple as you portray. Because if you knew, The way harem mode works is it makes a check for your status to prevent multiple lover status'. Harem mode removes that check. And how I feel like your bull shitting a bit is the fact that that removal or the check can and does effect quests/dates. I just did a fresh start with harem mode set up since last night and I've already run through the false completion that happens on lovers dates.
I repeated my argument specifically because you said it made no sense to you, so I repeated it in a clearer way in an attempt to orchestrate my argument better, but you seem to not like it regardless so I'm just going to address the points in this new statement
I have no idea where you're coming up with the idea that the harem route where everyone gets treated fairly equally is nonexistent. On the contrary, it's the most common representation of harems in porn games and visual novels, and certainly not just a "nebulous ending" given there are entire games and VNs based on this premise without it solely being a route. It's much more common than harems where you pick only one girl to be your main lover and the rest are your concubines, that's a fairly niche subset of harems for most games. which is, as I said, the entire reason people get confused by the title in this game and what my argument was attempting to achieve in the first place, not defend some other guy's post like you think I'm doing.
Since you're bringing up the game's characterization as an example I suppose I should as well. I don't think Vex is written very realistically. In fact, I don't think any of the characters are written super realistically. Most of the characters are written like most porn game characters are, a trope and baggage that MC helps solve through their heart and their penis. There's nothing wrong with this, but I also don't think it'd immediately ruin her arc if you had multiple lovers. As you said, she is possessive, but that's nothing new when it comes to harem tropes and I've seen plenty of writers have similar characters get over that when it comes to harems.
You're also not wrong when you say I'm somewhat inexperienced when it comes to coding, but I'm also not quite sure where you're coming from when you say they'd have to rewrite over 50% of the codebase that sounds like hyperbole. While we are on the topic of mechanics I would like you to elaborate on why you think me not being fond of replayability when we only have a third of the game is unfair. Criticizing the game for what I do have in front of me is a perfectly valid complaint because I'm criticizing the content for being too tedious to get through as it is, much less if you add 66% more game on top of that, even if they do add more content for the lover routes to incentivize that replayability I simply don't find the gameplay(which is a criticism quite a lot of people have so I'd consider that one valid) interesting enough to dedicate multiple playthroughs too. Nor do I want to break the hearts of characters that I do like just so I can experience more content. It just feels like an oversight on the part of the devs.
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I'll say this because I feel were just talking past each other at this point.
As for part one please show me a harem porn game that fulfills the conditions met.
And for part two thats just disagreeing with my assessment of characters plot importance.
finally ill first answer the latter part of three. Thats honestly your opinion and you are valid for thinking its not good enough. In fact purely as is I would agree with you. I have not played the game more than once. But my reason goes to the issue I have. As for the beta's that we are playing you would be correct. But the full game may and most likely will add far more content and it may/will be necessary to play the game more than once/have ng+. I just dislike assessments about an incomplete game being used as justification for something that will be, "Eventually added in" We don't know if it will even be necessary so there's no reason to believe its some thing that WILL be added. That leads to me addressing the first part of three.
The games code is structured like a tower. This is how most codes are. You HAVE to have a baseline code that handles the functions of the game. Then you build from that. If you add a feature that the foundation doesn't support. It wont work. If you change the foundation for the feature to work. it messes with the foundation which can then cause issues for other functions. So when implementing features for the game unless they wish to restart the foundation every time they add a feature they didnt intend when they made the foundation they have to make features with the foundation in mind. Multiple lovers is not an option within the foundation. The way it 'works' in the debug/cheat is by ignoring the flags for determining whether you are already in a Lovers status or not. But as you can imagine. Thats not a proper or stable solution. And bar them deciding to rewrite the foundation, AGAIN. It won't be a function. I cannot express how much work changing the foundation is.