You should check out Dinaki's approach to this problem, seems to be pretty effective (He's the creator of Kunoichi Trainer)Dev here. Man, pirates really are something. Uploaded the all-ages version. I wish you guys would at least bother to play my game before instantly uploading it.
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Incredible to see such an active developer in the community. Here's to hoping this game does well.
For some reason the zip file downloaded from vikingfile is reported as malware, but no warning for the same zip downloaded from buzzheavier.
Maybe vikingfile is manipulating uploaded zip files or seems that firefox is reporting as malware everything download from vikingfile.
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They are the same files. Vikingfile is still on warn list of some browsers. But their ads now got better. It should be taken off the lists but that will take a while. If you downloading with a ad blocker and have common sense then its fine but that counts for all hosters.
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I don't know why some developer want to make the female In there game looks like a child why you just didn't make her more mature and womanly enough instead of appearing like you had a Pedophilic Disorder
lol go jerk it to some busted hoes on OnlyFans then, retard
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Good, that's how NTR is supposed to be anyway. People just lose the ploit.. It's the emotional sabotage of losing to a singular, tangible figure that you know well enough to hate that makes up half why NTR is bittersweet enough to be a kink.
imho, there almost nothing appealing about a girl devolving into a battleworn cumdrunk bargain bin whore whos had so many dicks in her you'd think she was human pincushion... nah. no thanks. If thats' your jam try the Mindbreak, and Corruption departments 3 doors down the hall and on the right.
First of all, i'm the kind of guy who wanna save the girl in NTR so i may not be the right person to say this but i think gangbang or stuff like that could serve a purpose if it's done at the end. Especially if she do that under the supervision of one of the bad guy or/and if the MC is watching. Or you could sent hint by other guy that they where having fun together with a girl but the MC didn't know who and by the time going on, the hint where progressively less subtle until he finally saw the thing. They are many way of doing this in my humble opinion but i also wanna say that i agree on the fact that the main focus should generally be around a set of bad guy, not random people we don't know.Good, that's how NTR is supposed to be anyway. People just lose the ploit.. It's the emotional sabotage of losing to a singular, tangible figure that you know well enough to hate that makes up half why NTR is bittersweet enough to be a kink.
imho, there almost nothing appealing about a girl devolving into a battleworn cumdrunk bargain bin whore whos had so many dicks in her you'd think she was human pincushion... nah. no thanks. If thats' your jam try the Mindbreak, and Corruption departments 3 doors down the hall and on the right.
And yes my idea are leaning into corruption but NTR flirt generally a bit with that department : )
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There’s only 1-2 of them, but I’ve adjusted the volume! It’s fixed in the next update. Thanks for the feedback!Damn censor beeps, they penetrated my ears harder than ugly bastard's dick penetrates schoolgirls. And they are tied to the voice volume setting kurwa
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Also this. When skipping text sprite animations can be interrupted which results in thin stretched sprite or sprite can become partially invisible
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Ah yeah, that’s a Ren'Py thing unfortunately. Holding CTRL will cause animations and text to desynch in the engine. The alternative is to do hard pauses (make animation resolve before you can skip to the next step.)
I know some devs that force this, but IMO it makes backtracking a complete slog. If people are skipping, that means they want to get to the next section faster, so I feel they won't be too bothered by the temporarily stretched sprites.
This issue will sadly persist until Ren'Py makes CTRL skip animations at the same speed as text does.
If this is a passion project personally don't think the dev is making smart financial decisions tbh. Going all in on voice acting and expensive art is something you add later on in a game once you see that it's getting enough support. It's common sense. Looks like a good game but I feel bad that this person is struggling with money now and going into debt to fund it when it's not necessary.
I mean, hangover cat is a similar dev in this genre, and they did very well for themselves financially with their game. I believe they did all the art + text themselves w/o voice acting and did not take out any loans. I think another potential negative to outsourcing so many elements to third-parties is that the game feels a bit disjointed and incongruent. I haven't played this game but what it looks like to me based on what I'm seeing/reading.
I think the developer should consider progressing the game slower if they don't receive enough funds. It's what most devs do here. They prioritize low-effort content that makes money over actually progressing the game. It's greedy when you're getting 30+k a month but if you're scraping by nothing wrong with doing it for a while imo.
I mean, hangover cat is a similar dev in this genre, and they did very well for themselves financially with their game. I believe they did all the art + text themselves w/o voice acting and did not take out any loans. I think another potential negative to outsourcing so many elements to third-parties is that the game feels a bit disjointed and incongruent. I haven't played this game but what it looks like to me based on what I'm seeing/reading.
I think the developer should consider progressing the game slower if they don't receive enough funds. It's what most devs do here. They prioritize low-effort content that makes money over actually progressing the game. It's greedy when you're getting 30+k a month but if you're scraping by nothing wrong with doing it for a while imo.
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Hello! I’m thankful for your concern! I would like to address some points.
- I’m actually doing OK on the Patreon. Not terrible, not great.
- I’m a greedy person. I want to do more. I am never satisfied. I don’t want to rest on my laurels and collect a lazy check every month.
Also, I love Akari and my characters and I want to tell the story exactly as I envisioned them. I find it hard to play unvoiced VNs, and Akari was always planned with voice in mind. I hate, hate, hate, telling people to replay things because they got retroactively added in. Ideally, everything should be perfect on that first, magical playthrough.
Now, I think it’s interesting you mention Hangover Cat, because ABPLU being inconsistent was exactly one of its major criticisms.
For one, Hangover Cat does not draw. He hires artists, just like me.
ABLU actually had several artists. The cover art doesn’t match the spritework. The CGs didn’t match the sprites either. Even the CGs varied in quality from the beginning of the game to the end. I’m not going to talk about the characters and writing, because that’s another story.
Despite these inconsistencies, it’s still an excellent game. I enjoyed it, many others enjoyed it, but it's definitely not what I would call a consistent game.
As for outsourcing, I’m actually doing none at all. Because outsourcing means handing something off to someone else that one could do internally.
I only have one artist, Kamiya-san, who draws all the CGs and female characters.
Another, Tsukiyono-san, who draws the male characters.
Hibari-san voices Akari.
This isn’t outsourcing, but just hiring people to perform a role that’s physically impossible for me to do (I obviously cannot voice Akari). Outsourcing has a negative connotation in the modern definition, because it often implies cost-savings and inferior quality. Everyone I hire is pretty much a pro at their fields.
Now, even if I could magically draw, I wouldn’t do it, because that would leave me with basically no time to write and code. The writing, the coding, the music selection, splicing the voice lines—that’s all me. No one else touches the game besides me. (I think you might be misinterpreting some of the comments here because I think consistency is one of my strong points. I do suggest everyone to try the game free on itchio first, and then let me know what they think!)
Anyway, I will agree that HangOver cat is a much more savvy dev and businessperson than I am.
Their projects (more kinks, no voice acting, cheaper artists, high H-scene count) are definitely easier to produce, and appeal to a wider audience as a result. It’s quick, accessible NTR that’s popular and easy to get into.
But I am not interested in a big audience or pure revenue. I do not work well splitting my attention across various games in progress. I just want more money to make one goodass game at a time. If I can make a living from that, awesome! But it's not my top priority at the moment. Once I finish this game, I'm probably going to use the outstanding funds to make a sequel or even more high-quality games. The yacht can wait until we get some leviathans donating.
That being said, I think your concerns are very valid and it’s something I do plan to take into account. I just wanted to give you reasons for the things I do. I've already scaled back on stuff like NPC VAs and UB artwork, but there’s no way in hell I’ll ever compromise on Akari lewds
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Just leaving a comment here to say that although I can't spend money on things I don't absolutely need at the moment, what you're doing here is appreciated, skyblueaster.
Good luck on the project! I am looking forward to this one the most, and will try it out when rival gets their sprite.Hello! I’m thankful for your concern! I would like to address some points.
If I were to wait until I was in a comfy spot in life and entirely debt-free, then we would all be old with our d×cks falling off. I want to make a game people can f×p to now, not when they’re balding and married.
- I’m actually doing OK on the Patreon. Not terrible, not great.
- I’m a greedy person. I want to do more. I am never satisfied. I don’t want to rest on my laurels and collect a lazy check every month.
Also, I love Akari and my characters and I want to tell the story exactly as I envisioned them. I find it hard to play unvoiced VNs, and Akari was always planned with voice in mind. I hate, hate, hate, telling people to replay things because they got retroactively added in. Ideally, everything should be perfect on that first, magical playthrough.
Now, I think it’s interesting you mention Hangover Cat, because ABPLU being inconsistent was exactly one of its major criticisms.
For one, Hangover Cat does not draw. He hires artists, just like me.
ABLU actually had several artists. The cover art doesn’t match the spritework. The CGs didn’t match the sprites either. Even the CGs varied in quality from the beginning of the game to the end. I’m not going to talk about the characters and writing, because that’s another story.
Despite these inconsistencies, it’s still an excellent game. I enjoyed it, many others enjoyed it, but it's definitely not what I would call a consistent game.
As for outsourcing, I’m actually doing none at all. Because outsourcing means handing something off to someone else that one could do internally.
I only have one artist, Kamiya-san, who draws all the CGs and female characters.
Another, Tsukiyono-san, who draws the male characters.
Hibari-san voices Akari.
This isn’t outsourcing, but just hiring people to perform a role that’s physically impossible for me to do (I obviously cannot voice Akari). Outsourcing has a negative connotation in the modern definition, because it often implies cost-savings and inferior quality. Everyone I hire is pretty much a pro at their fields.
Now, even if I could magically draw, I wouldn’t do it, because that would leave me with basically no time to write and code. The writing, the coding, the music selection, splicing the voice lines—that’s all me. No one else touches the game besides me. (I think you might be misinterpreting some of the comments here because I think consistency is one of my strong points. I do suggest everyone to try the game free on itchio first, and then let me know what they think!)
Anyway, I will agree that HangOver cat is a much more savvy dev and businessperson than I am.
Their projects (more kinks, no voice acting, cheaper artists, high H-scene count) are definitely easier to produce, and appeal to a wider audience as a result. It’s quick, accessible NTR that’s popular and easy to get into.
But I am not interested in a big audience or pure revenue. I do not work well splitting my attention across various games in progress. I just want more money to make one goodass game at a time. If I can make a living from that, awesome! But it's not my top priority at the moment. Once I finish this game, I'm probably going to use the outstanding funds to make a sequel or even more high-quality games. The yacht can wait until we get some leviathans donating.
That being said, I think your concerns are very valid and it’s something I do plan to take into account. I just wanted to give you reasons for the things I do. I've already scaled back on stuff like NPC VAs and UB artwork, but there’s no way in hell I’ll ever compromise on Akari lewds
I want to ask a question about artists, since you said they do separate works. How does that process look like with 2 characters? My assumption is draw female character, draw male character afterwards to fit the first drawing?
If that is the case that could be questionable. It would look like one image on top of the other, instead of one image.
Can a visual look like in this image if there are two characters?
If I am wrong sorry for assumption, I saw some animation, but didnt understand if its from the game or outside, but it looked like one image on top of the other
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Hello! Just want to clarify something here: We do NOT splice illustrations, or get multiple people to work on one.
In fact, I am such a purist that I get my artist to draw the background for event CGs too, instead of replacing them with stock ones for savings.
かみやん-san does all the girl sprites.
月夜野-san does all the male sprites.
Both are professional Japanese artists who are insanely popular. It’s quite hard to get a slot, they are that backed up lmao. I have to request slots early, and in order to do that, I need to have funds on hand. (Which is why I’m always in need of money lmao).
(Example of a CG drawn by かみやん)
かみやん draws all the event illustrations. If they include a guy, they draw them as well. かみやん draws for gacha companies and yaoi, so they’re damned good at whatever they cook. ❤
Currently, most of the CGs do not have hyper-detailed shots of the man’s face and body. I assume most of you are here for Akari lewds, so we put her body front and center in most shots.
I really like seeing the girl’s expression and body in CG artwork (sensual af ❤), but if people prefer more emphasis on the male body and close-ups of the nasty parts doing action (dick into p×ssy), let me know.
I shy away from poses like standard missionary & mating press because they aren’t very sexy and it pretty much consists of staring at a man’s back, but if people like that sorta stuff, I can take it into account. But scenes where the girl straddles the man’d dick are all very hot.
But yeah, all the H-scenes you see in-game are illustrated by かみやん. They are elaborately assembled and L2D-ready, whenever our funds allow.
As for the animation, are you referring to this? Because this is a high-quality fan-animation drawn by one person, it’s definitely not “one image on top of another" xD. This is the only animation we have so far, at least until the L2D update comes *prays*.
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Thanks for the answers! I first misunderstood that first artist draws only female characrers, while in reality they draw female sprites, but draw male characters too in CG. I undersrand now.
For sex poses and stuff, I can only give my personal opinion: I agree with you, but I also like from time to time be reminded of the actual character in the scene. Like this for example
main girl still gets most of the screen exposure, but rival still shows up alittle bit every now and then.
Lastly, yes it was those animations I saw!
Sex animation was awesome, boobs interacted with the surroundings and moving around truly the good stuff. What I was refering to was the groping part, which looks a bit unnatural imo, probably because hand moves but skirt stays still so it breaks the illusion and looks like only one image is moving.
Anyways, I don't want to sound like someone complaining , I absolutely like everything about your project, designs, voices, plot etc. Just wanted to share my thoughts and worries. Sorry for walls of text ^^'
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