RPGM Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3 : The Peacekeepers [Update 16] [N_taii]

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Samm777

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Without knowing the exact budget... I feel like the only limiting factor there is that four pieces of fully-drawn CG art would be exorbitantly expensive, to where you could probably get at least 5 or 6 entire sprite sheets for new animations with the same amount of money. But that's just an assumption on my part.

I know, I mean, Rome wasn't built in a day, it's not like a request for the next update, but maybe we can get something off the drawing board, that would be cool
 

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Yeah, big part of fans here are for sprite sex and would prefer several sprite animations instead of measly four static CGs. I don't mind if N_taii doesn't want to implement it when we already past half of the game. The card game is not obligatory and most who skipped it can watch the scene from save. I just hope he considers this idea for the next game.
 

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Without knowing the exact budget... I feel like the only limiting factor there is that four pieces of fully-drawn CG art would be exorbitantly expensive, to where you could probably get at least 5 or 6 entire sprite sheets for new animations with the same amount of money. But that's just an assumption on my part.
One single piece of custom artwork would be incredibly expensive. Somewhere along the line artists decided to massively overprice their work and we just rolled with it. I've seen people charge $2-300 per piece and they make decent livings off of it. There are days I momentarily consider using my rudimentary art skills to see about drawing OCs for the Sonic the Hedgehog fan base, but I know I'd be traumatized inside a day and no richer for it. XD
 

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One single piece of custom artwork would be incredibly expensive. Somewhere along the line artists decided to massively overprice their work and we just rolled with it. I've seen people charge $2-300 per piece and they make decent livings off of it. There are days I momentarily consider using my rudimentary art skills to see about drawing OCs for the Sonic the Hedgehog fan base, but I know I'd be traumatized inside a day and no richer for it. XD
While I know art takes practice and skill, the prices I've seen people try to sell their, for lack of better words, 'shit art' for, makes me really wonder who actually commissions them.
 

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One single piece of custom artwork would be incredibly expensive. Somewhere along the line artists decided to massively overprice their work and we just rolled with it. I've seen people charge $2-300 per piece and they make decent livings off of it. There are days I momentarily consider using my rudimentary art skills to see about drawing OCs for the Sonic the Hedgehog fan base, but I know I'd be traumatized inside a day and no richer for it. XD
You really aren't wrong about that price range! I am constantly window-shopping for artists because I play FFXIV and dream of having some fancy art of my character at some point... but even the most affordable ones usually land somewhere north of $100 to just have an upper-half portrait with a simple background and easily clear $250+ if you want to have something more detailed and dynamic.

Just doing some napkin math here — I think that I even asked N_taii at one point how much it costs for him to commission a sprite sheet for a new sex animation back during Chapter 2, and that it was around $20 depending on how complex it was. I have to assume that the price has probably gone up with the new art style of Chapter 3, but even assuming that it costs double that now at $40 or even $50, four static CG scenes would probably cost at least $400-500 if there was an absolutely killer bargain. That is essentially eating the resources of at least 12 new animations that the game could have instead. And that isn't just "losing 12 scenes" either, because those animations could be used multiple times between different characters.

While I know art takes practice and skill, the prices I've seen people try to sell their, for lack of better words, 'shit art' for, makes me really wonder who actually commissions them.
Having a few friends who do art commissions for a living, the answer is usually furries. They have a pretty strong reputation of being able to spend obscene amounts of money on any artist who will tolerate their more eccentric kinks.
 

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I've got a friend who used to do commissions for furries, he was pulling in thousands of dollars a month but he only lasted a couple of months because some of the commission requests were genuinely horrifying. Pretty sure he's got PTSD.

On the other side of the coin I have another friend who makes high six figures because she's a fur suit designer. Makes designs and ships to them off for manufacture for a ton. I don't know where they get it from but furries are fucking loaded. More power to them, it's just not my cuppa.
 

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something something about them being in tech, or atleast that's what I remember reading.
 

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I don't know where they get it from but furries are fucking loaded.
something something about them being in tech, or atleast that's what I remember reading.
I always thought that it was just a common misconception that these people were loaded and that they're actually just average people with average jobs that are so invested in this one thing that they don't spend money on anything else. I also think "whales" in video games are exacly the same as well.

I have a friend who i've known since kindergarten that is...not a perfect example for this but it's as close as it gets. He's 24, single, doesn't have a driver's license, doesn't own a car (obviously), lives at home with his parents, doesn't buy clothes WHATSOEVER, doesn't go out with us on the weekends, he does basically nothing except for one thing...he's a gun nerd and he sinks ALL his money into Airsoft...and video games i guess. If you saw this guy's arsenal at home (and steam library), you would immediately think that he's a millionaire but no, he works at the hospital as...i don't know exacly what he does but the best description i could give you is that he's almost a nurse, in short he makes slightly above average money AT BEST, but the thing is that he doesn't have anything to spend that money on so he can freely visit any of these Airsoft websites and blow thousands of dollars in 1 day.

I remember last year he told me how he bought a SCAR or whatever and that he wanted to go for realism as much as possible, so instead of buying a magazine that can hold god knows how many ammunition, he bought "realistic" ones that can only hold 10 ammo at a time, and since he would run out of ammo constantly during these matches now that they're this low capacity, he decided to buy 4 magazines that he can just load before the match and then switch between them during the "fight", 1 magazine like this costs around a $120 and this guy bought 4, and that's just for one of his guns.

I'm not saying that furries are not loaded, i'm sure there are some out there who could buy a piece of the moon, but i think in general these guys make same as everybody else, and that the reason why they can afford all these things is because this is not just a hobby for them, it's a lifestyle, and all that money others spend on groceries, rent, car, entertainment etc., they spend that on furry suits collars and animal tail buttplugs.
 

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I know it's probably a dumb question to ask in a thread dedicated to the game but does this game have a satisfying ending? Like I am not a fan of NTR but the story so far is pretty interesting. I just want to know if I should keep playing as it's not really my typical genre.
 
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I know it's probably a dumb question to ask in a thread dedicated to the game but does this game have a satisfying ending? Like I am not a fan of NTR but the story so far is pretty interesting. I just want to know if I should keep playing as it's not really my typical genre.
The game is not finished yet, so no one can answer this. All we know is that there will be three endings: Happy, NTR, and Revenge.
 
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Oriandu

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I know it's probably a dumb question to ask in a thread dedicated to the game but does this game have a satisfying ending? Like I am not a fan of NTR but the story so far is pretty interesting. I just want to know if I should keep playing as it's not really my typical genre.
We'll let you know in like a year or so when it has an ending. :p

Jokes aside I don't have high expectations for the ending. HC1 and 2 both use deus ex machina for their endings and don't feel entirely satisfying as a result.
 

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I know it's probably a dumb question to ask in a thread dedicated to the game but does this game have a satisfying ending? Like I am not a fan of NTR but the story so far is pretty interesting. I just want to know if I should keep playing as it's not really my typical genre.
You should,I didn't like the NTR genre at first but if you continue it will make you addicted
 

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The game is not finished yet, so no one can answer this. All we know is that there will be three endings: Happy, NTR, and Revenge.
with ntr being unavoidable im kinda curious how that'd work. Also like the ntr ending I can get but love and revenge endings on whom? who am I getting revenge against?
 

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with ntr being unavoidable im kinda curious how that'd work. Also like the ntr ending I can get but love and revenge endings on whom? who am I getting revenge against?
Going by previous games, the Happy ending usually involves redemption or forgiveness, depending on how charitable you are with the ladies' motivations — that the player manages to pull them out of their spiraling depravity and return to something close to a normal life. Presumably, it will involve Leto saving all four of them by unraveling the mystery of whatever is going on with the cult, and then resuming his relationship with Rose. I do vaguely remember N_taii hinting about why it was so important for both Haylen and Cyanna to not be blood-related to Leto in this game, but if I had to guess, I think that is probably going to involve the Revenge ending and that there won't be some surprise option in the Happy ending for him to choose who he ultimately winds up with... because that would essentially be making four different Happy endings on top of the NTR and Revenge paths, which sounds like a development nightmare.

Revenge was introduced in Chapter 2, and involved the player not only taking down the villains, but also more or less becoming the bigger villain to accomplish that and very specifically not forgiving his loved ones. Though it made more sense in the previous game because there was a very specific betrayal that involved more than just having sex behind the protagonist's back and making him feel sad. So Chapter 3's Revenge ending might wind up looking different, depending on how the story continues to unfold. So the revenge is against everyone, basically.
 
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with ntr being unavoidable im kinda curious how that'd work. Also like the ntr ending I can get but love and revenge endings on whom? who am I getting revenge against?
The revenge endings so far have been pretty universal in who they impact. If the first two games are any example the revenge ending will involve Leto breaking bad. In both HC1&2 the MCs wind up usurping their enemies and begin to treat their former love interests as property instead of people. So you're getting revenge on the people who ruined your life and on the women who betrayed you. Sooner or later Rose, Cyanna, Lily, and Haylen will choose between their ntr partners and Leto which puts them up as targets for revenge.

If I have one obvious problem with the revenge endings it's how unwilling N_Taii is to punish the women. By his own admission he has difficulty mistreating them. So they tend to dodge the more appropriate punishment and simply continue on with the MC as their dominant partner in place of their defeated partner. So the women skate by and their partners get punished in their place even though they are often just as guilty. So instead of Rose winding up alone, forced to live out her days without her loved ones, relying on empty, meaningless sex to satisfy her urges she'll be a member of harem of the new King Leto or something. The punishment does not suit their crimes, which to me kind of defeats the point.

As for the love ending, that's not really a thing in the first two games. HC1&2 basically have true, good, bad, and 2 added revenge endings. The true endings are pretty typical jRPG endings, the good endings involve moving on for better or worse, and the bad ending is self explanatory.
 
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