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dont tell me we about to start this up again...we get it, you dont like the mirror shit.
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I really, really hope that there would be some kind of way to opt out for a scene like this, even if it's just a little "hey, do you want to skip this specific part?" prompt — because that would pretty much *crater* my interest in whichever ending forced me to fast-forward through it the typical way of awkwardly holding Ctrl for 3-5 minutes (while still having to watch it so that I know when to stop). Whether it's the NTR or Revenge path, I would never want to go back and choose that ending again in the future even if I wind up loving the rest of it because that scene would always be sitting there like a little landmine in a narrow hallway.
Honestly, I feel like that would be much better suited for a freeroam event where the player can choose not to interact with it if they don't want to, and it isn't positioned at such a crucial juncture of the entire narrative.
Yeah, the plan if I do it would be to temporarily decide for the antagonist whether he wants to do it or not. I know watersports' not all that popular and, although I'm pretty neutral about it, and I usually opt out of it when I have the choice.
By the way, how would you feel if opting out of it meant the woman still has to hold the antagonist's junk while he's peeing or something of that nature?
Why? Does Haylen need to hold Jazon's dick and help him pee when he's blackout drunk?
- Feb 9, 2021
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Not the guy you're asking to but I feel the same way as him and wouldn't mind if it's just holding.
It wouldn't do anything for me sexually but it would give me a good chuckle if the guy was just drunk and needed help aiming his piss
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I appreciate that you have already taken that into consideration for the more squeamish sorts such as myself! And to answer your question: I still wouldn't be thrilled about it, personally. But that would at least be tolerable, and make it much easier for me to skip through it manually at my own discretion. So if that is the way it is handled, that feels like it would be a fair compromise as long as the opt out scene doesn't really dwell on it.
I don't think the whole aiming the piss thing has much of a purpose unless you're going to delve into other related fetishes. So unless you're going to play into the advanced age of the duke or the magic shop owner or perhaps play into Jazon's fetish for older women by infantilizing him I think it would be difficult to work in that particular kind of pissing. Honestly I feel like you've already passed the best place to add it in, which would have been during the scene in which the duke interrupts Leto and Rose's date. Watersports isn't something I'm interested in but if you're going to do it you can't go halfway.
In general watersports is not a sexual fetish that is easily played around with unless you specifically make use of it in an experimental fashion and then the characters decide they don't like it, as anything involving bodily waste is a very specific fetish. With that said you could also use it in one of the side stories. The bullied kid's mom seems like a good choice, same with the fishmonger's wife since she's literally working as a whore. Maybe the climax of the card game storyline could be the main girl in it losing a match and then being pissed on? Dunno.
- Oct 21, 2022
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I like it when a girl gets pissed and spat on by a shit bag. But Its definitely one of those fetishes that should not be the main focus, and preferably be completely skippable. If I found something really gross I would hope I don't have to accidentally see it. It's one of those things that is probably just easier to not have, since its a pretty specific fetish.
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I almost feel bad for saying this cause i'm usually pretty vocal about how interactive Freeroam events are infinitely better than simple Freeroam events that you can just...see, but i think that lately N_Taii has been going a bit overboard with them, and i don't mean quantity cause there's no such thing as too many freeroam events, i mean quality.
I first thought about this right after reading the post where N_Taii explained why the Updates have been taking longer lately and obviously the main reason in that post was that the quality of freeroam events have drastically increased over the years, to the point where they're more like smaller scenes rather than actual Freeroam events...and i think that is precisely what happened, for example the only difference between the actual scenes for Lily and the 2 freeroam events that were added in Update14, is that the location from where you can watch these scenes are different.
Now i obviously can't speak for everyone so i'm not saying that this is objectively bad, but for me freeroam events should not have to be triggered in order for us to see it and they most definitely should not end after we're done interacting with them...most of the time, i love the freeroam event where Haylen is having sex with Jazon in his room on a random morning and i wouldn't change anything about it, but it's a great example for what i'm saying, you can't see anything before OR after you interact with Haylen, only while the cutscene is happening, and as i said, i wouldn't change anything about this scene but the fact that more and more freeroam events are like this is something that i have a bone to pick with.
I'm at a point where i keep thinking about that one Freeroam event where Cyanna and Ulrod are having sex down at the docks in front of the warehouse and i'm almost like "i wish we had more freeroam events like this".
I'll give a better example of what i mean and how i would've preferred it instead: there is a new freeroam event for Lily where she's standing in front of the greenhouse just below Nezar's shop with those Heart icons above her head that indicates that there is something happening here, once you talk to Lily the scene starts, Nezar appears, Leto leaves, Lily and Nezar starts having sex, scene over, pretty straightforward, it's a good freeroam event don't get me wrong, but again, there is nothing happening BEFORE and AFTER you talk with Lily.
How I would've liked this scene more you ask ? Easy, the EXACT same thing but instead of Lily standing in front of the greenhouse, she's already having sex with Nezar inside, and you can only interact with those Heart icons on the ground, and once you do, the screen goes black and it says "15 MINUTES EARLIER", and THEN the exact same cutscene starts playing as the one we already have.
As i said at the beginning, i've been thinking about this ever since that post was made on Patreon right after Update14's first release, but i didn't want to write it down cause i knew that it would be a really long post and i was just too lazy to bother (and as i'm looking at it right now, it seems i was spot on unfortunately), however this week's PoL was released 2 days ago, and N_Taii ended the post by saying this:
This was what actually made me want to write this monstrosity down, i don't know exacly what i'm expecting from all of this, but maybe this will somehow snowball into a discussion or whatever. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (hopefully more than 2 people will bother reading it lmao)
I first thought about this right after reading the post where N_Taii explained why the Updates have been taking longer lately and obviously the main reason in that post was that the quality of freeroam events have drastically increased over the years, to the point where they're more like smaller scenes rather than actual Freeroam events...and i think that is precisely what happened, for example the only difference between the actual scenes for Lily and the 2 freeroam events that were added in Update14, is that the location from where you can watch these scenes are different.
Now i obviously can't speak for everyone so i'm not saying that this is objectively bad, but for me freeroam events should not have to be triggered in order for us to see it and they most definitely should not end after we're done interacting with them...most of the time, i love the freeroam event where Haylen is having sex with Jazon in his room on a random morning and i wouldn't change anything about it, but it's a great example for what i'm saying, you can't see anything before OR after you interact with Haylen, only while the cutscene is happening, and as i said, i wouldn't change anything about this scene but the fact that more and more freeroam events are like this is something that i have a bone to pick with.
I'm at a point where i keep thinking about that one Freeroam event where Cyanna and Ulrod are having sex down at the docks in front of the warehouse and i'm almost like "i wish we had more freeroam events like this".
I'll give a better example of what i mean and how i would've preferred it instead: there is a new freeroam event for Lily where she's standing in front of the greenhouse just below Nezar's shop with those Heart icons above her head that indicates that there is something happening here, once you talk to Lily the scene starts, Nezar appears, Leto leaves, Lily and Nezar starts having sex, scene over, pretty straightforward, it's a good freeroam event don't get me wrong, but again, there is nothing happening BEFORE and AFTER you talk with Lily.
How I would've liked this scene more you ask ? Easy, the EXACT same thing but instead of Lily standing in front of the greenhouse, she's already having sex with Nezar inside, and you can only interact with those Heart icons on the ground, and once you do, the screen goes black and it says "15 MINUTES EARLIER", and THEN the exact same cutscene starts playing as the one we already have.
As i said at the beginning, i've been thinking about this ever since that post was made on Patreon right after Update14's first release, but i didn't want to write it down cause i knew that it would be a really long post and i was just too lazy to bother (and as i'm looking at it right now, it seems i was spot on unfortunately), however this week's PoL was released 2 days ago, and N_Taii ended the post by saying this:
This was what actually made me want to write this monstrosity down, i don't know exacly what i'm expecting from all of this, but maybe this will somehow snowball into a discussion or whatever. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (hopefully more than 2 people will bother reading it lmao)
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Yeah, good point. Better use the actual scene with "some time earlier" than just standing chibi (we got the glowing balls in Leto`s room anyway).
I don't disagree that the whole talk to X character with a heart over their head bit is getting to be a bit too common. I think part of the problem may be due to N_Taii having realized that people like the free roams and at that point he started focusing on them a little too heavily. I'll use one of Rose's from update 13 as an example of what I'm talking about. You can find her in her room at the duke's manor on one of the days checking herself out in the mirror, at which point it then breaks down into a scene in which a conversation between her and Leto, then her and the duke, and then sex with the duke, then another conversation with Leto. It's a little long in the tooth. Walking up to a character with a heart over their head is also a lot less suspenseful than looking in a window and seeing the aftermath before you go to the right spot to see the full scene or go to the right door to hear the groaning and moaning. The free roams are better for sure, but they're a little less fun these day.
It is a good point. I like the voyeuristic aspect of the free roam scenes. I like feeling that I've walked into something or seeing something I shouldn't be seeing, or seeing the aftermath or the build-up to a sexual encounter. The free roam scenes that fell short for me was the one Oriandu mentioned, and the scene with Rose in the tavern. As Leto, in his POV, I didn't feel like I stumbled onto something scandalous when I went up and talked to Rose. It would have been different if Leto saw Rose getting groped from a distance or out of sight.
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There was also this thing in HC2, i don't even really know what to call it to be honest, Feature ? Mechanic ? whatever, once i explain everybody will immediately know what i'm talking about. There was this thing in HC2 where if something sexual was happening in a room, and we had full control over Noah, then we were able to force a kind of perspective change by standing next to the door, and it would show 2 different maps right next to each other, one of them being the map where the sexual thing was happening, and the other one the map where Noah originally was, obviously.
Now i could be entirely wrong about this, but i don't remember a single instance of this happening in HC3, MAYBE there was 1 thing with Haylen in her room but even that's like a hunch at best. I guess the fact that almost every single Freeroam event can be interacted with is the reason why, but i kinda miss this feature from HC2. I remember there was a freeroam event for Haylen a while back where she was giving Jazon a blowjob on the second floor of the Church inside the kitchen, and it was not interactable whatsoever, the only way you could see it was if you were standing in front of the Church and you were watching it happen through the window. I don't know why but walking up to the kitchen door i was CONVINCED, that i would be able to force this perspective change and that i would be able to at least watch it from a bit closer than from outside of the window...but alas, nothing happened.
Now i could be entirely wrong about this, but i don't remember a single instance of this happening in HC3, MAYBE there was 1 thing with Haylen in her room but even that's like a hunch at best. I guess the fact that almost every single Freeroam event can be interacted with is the reason why, but i kinda miss this feature from HC2. I remember there was a freeroam event for Haylen a while back where she was giving Jazon a blowjob on the second floor of the Church inside the kitchen, and it was not interactable whatsoever, the only way you could see it was if you were standing in front of the Church and you were watching it happen through the window. I don't know why but walking up to the kitchen door i was CONVINCED, that i would be able to force this perspective change and that i would be able to at least watch it from a bit closer than from outside of the window...but alas, nothing happened.
This is actually what I thought Omniscient POV was supposed to be. I thought it was bugged when I still coulnd't really see the good stuff from closer up...
The lack of split perspective free roams could be due to the two POVs. Such free roams would basically require N_Taii to build the scenes and possibly more than just the scenes twice to ensure that the partial MC POV players were only hearing the muffled noises.
On the subject of the partial MC POV... I'm kinda tempted to use it for the rest of the game. Like just start a new game to see how weird everything feels without being able to see the sex scenes. I feel like update 14 would be a very strange experience from just Leto's perspective.
On the subject of the partial MC POV... I'm kinda tempted to use it for the rest of the game. Like just start a new game to see how weird everything feels without being able to see the sex scenes. I feel like update 14 would be a very strange experience from just Leto's perspective.
Partial MC POV sees the entirety of the "mini regular scene" free roam events too, which I think kind of goes against the spirit of that play mode.