It's Patreon that doesn't allow it, not f95. As for why, payment processors will pull their services if they're being used for certain kinds of content.
Seems I misunderstood that interaction then, thank you for the clarification. That would make more sense given the type of games I see on here lol.
Miss Y
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Really? Wow, I guess I spoke too soon... I genuinely thought that NTR would be way too context-specific for Patreon to lump it into that category, but I guess it's reasonable to play it extra safe.
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Honestly, after spending some time in the "developers only" part of this website, I've realized how blessed I am with this thread. There's a good deal of criticism, and that's normal. We humans see positive aspects as normal, so we don't feel the need to mention them quite as much as the bad aspects that worry us add thus retain most of our attention. That's why, in this day and age, we see everything has "having gone to shit", although the statistics show the contrary. We're being bombarded with bad news from social media and the internet as a whole, and it deeply affects our psyche and how we see the world.
Back on topic, I know for a fact that a good deal of devs on here have their own F95 thread set to ignore due to the constant barrage of criticism due to decisions related to game design among others. Putting my own thread on "ignore" has never crossed my mind, because everyone here is super respectful and tries to present their criticism in a constructive manner. Seriously, everyone here is pretty damn mature, setting aside the petty squabbles I sometimes see between users, but those never last long. I've had a few people with the usual "cuck" insults or wishing you to die, but those don't bother me in the least, because it comes with the NTR genre, it's just mindless hate without substance, and they're really few and far in-between. In comparison, people saying they're disappointed hurts a lot more, because it somehow feels like I've betrayed their trust, although unwillingly.
F95 is pretty much okay with everything as long as it's not downright ** or borderline **. Patreon, on the other hand (and especially Paypal), are an entirely different beast. Because nothing screams "morals" like scamming their users through Honey I guess^^ Joking, I know it's not about morals but about brand protection and not wanting to get associated with anything controversial.
I mean, it's a dream, so nothing really happens. I guess we're in the clear. But I'd rather not speak about it too much. I know for a fact that the Patreon team is doing some overtime scouring the F95 forums to look for potential incriminating proofs of anything before they ban you. I personally think I haven't broken any rules though, but you never know.
I'll look into it, but I'd rather not spread myself between too many crownfunding websites, and I'm not sure the demand from Russia and Belarus is high enough to warrant a Boosty account. I'll keep it in mind though.
Still thinking about how the happy/revenge endings will unfold. Again, I'd rather not talk about it here for the reasons stated above, sorry : )
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Thanks for the answer. Unfortunately, yes, there may be low demand. But this is the only platform for them, because Patreon banned paying and that's it.
In general, we can only wait and wait.
Miss Y
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Ah, say no more. It probably doesn't matter in the grand scheme of 275 pages, but I went back and cleaned up my message just in case you would rather remove that quote.
NiktoAzure
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Don't rush, the main thing here is that they are very interesting and justified. If it takes time, we'll wait.
And then some people leak endings so that they really drive you into depression.
As I understand, there will usually be 4 endings, including the true? Or will there no longer be a true ending?
Yeah, it probably doesn't matter, but better safe than sorry^^
I will remove the True Ending, but I'm thinking about adding a variation of the NTR ending where one is more 1-on-1 NTR and one is more about the women turning into whores and being shared around, to cater to different fetishes. People liked the True Ending, but they never really asked for it, so I'll cut it so I can focus on things that people actually ask for.
Apologies but also regarding payment if boosty is being considered would it be possible to have pixivfanbox too? been wanting to support for a long time but all the options were unavailable for me
NiktoAzure
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It turns out that we are waiting for the following endings:
1. NTR ending, several options
2. Good ending
3. Revenge ending
So in theory there will be 5 endings?
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Casually inserting my reminder that I would greatly enjoy "the girls becoming the town bicycle" ending
Kulman
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Because the endings depend on the choices that have been made during the story, if the same number of green, blue and red choices have been made, the logical thing would be to have a neutral ending, right?
and I also think that if it were to come to the case that there would be no endings where we have Leto-Cyanna-Haylen content, then it would have been a total waste of plot to have established the fact that at the beginning both felt romantic attraction towards Leto, in that case it would have been better if their initial feeling towards Leto had been more family love and not romantic attraction, just like the relationship between Noa and his mother in HC2 even if she had not been his biological mother.
I must say that the game really is my favorite RPG where the sex scenes are purely pixel art, and even though there are things that I don't like, I try to say them in a constructive way, because the truth is I don't like the feeling that you get from having done something that you really enjoy and that others can enjoy what you do, and that you only receive destructive comments and little empathy with your work, and by the way, I apologize if at any time I sounded too harsh with anything I said. XD.
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Ain't my fault that Patreon suddenly decided that "adopted" was considered incest right after I started making the game^^ But I'll try to find a solution.
There was nothing harsh about anything you said : ) Thanks!
I'm not very sold on this whore ending variation
I think either 1-on-1 NTR ending or Duke taking both girls rose and cynna would be a good ending...
Kulman
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Dont take this away from me!
But really, you are just describing a slight variation of the ending you are 100% gonna get, why piss in my cereal
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Since the update isn't out on itch.io yet and I'm still contemplating whether I want to grab it ASAP or wait for the next one so that I can play the "full" beach story in one go, I've been stuck thinking about how the endings will work now all morning and just feel like idly theorizing a bit.
Trying to puzzle things out from the bits and pieces of information:
Just looking at them, it makes me think that the obvious choice would be to condense things back down to three endings by merging the "whore NTR" ending into the Revenge ending. Have him just become as cruel and cold as we saw in the king's flashback (if not even more so), where he marries Rose and takes the throne... but only does it out of necessity (his duty to protect the kingdom and more personally, a pathological need for control after being inevitably betrayed by his closest loved ones), with no room in his heart to actually forgive her or the other three for hurting him so deeply. By necessity, if Cyanna and Haylen can't have any interaction with Leto... That puts the Revenge ending in a bad spot for them having any content, since it would need to be with other characters and the villains probably aren't going to be around in that ending.
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But then on a separate train of thought, I'm also wondering how it would work to handle the choice on which NTR ending you get with the current plan. With how the ending is determined so far by tallying up your dialogue choices, it would need to be a binary choice once you're locked into the NTR path. But having the player pick an option which does nothing other than arbitrarily determine if the villains are open to sharing or not would be more than a little abrupt. Especially for a character like Ulrod, where the brothel quest made it pretty damn explicit that he would not be open that.
And that makes me wonder if the "whore NTR" ending would actually make more sense as a variant of the Happy ending instead, where Leto thwarts the conspiracy either way, but is given an obvious (to the player) choice between doing it the right way, which leads to the Happy ending... or some foolish and naïve way, which gives you the Bad/"Hollow" ending version instead, where the villains are defeated, but Leto's life still slowly falls apart even in their absence because picking that foolish option is a confirmation that Leto (in this ending) hasn't actually changed or learned anything throughout the story. In a thematic sense, the Bad ending is a punishment for his stagnation while the Happy ending is a reward for his growth.
Trying to puzzle things out from the bits and pieces of information:
- Happy Ending — I always assumed this was going to be very Rose-focused, because it's supposed to be the most "vanilla" romantic path and having that end on a harem would've been... surprising, to say the least. And unlike the NTR ending, I don't recall ever seeing any mention of it potentially having its own mini-branch, like where you could get the normal "marry Rose" ending or the "everyone falls in love with Leto" golden ending on top of that.
- NTR Ending — Exactly what you'd expect from the name, and we know it's supposed to have two versions; one where the villains keep the girls for themselves, and another where they get shared around... but we have no idea how what the context could be to choose between those. I mean, obviously, that would be massive spoilers.
- Revenge Ending — The biggest question mark in my head right now, because I felt like this was almost certainly going to be the one that involved the harem by process of elimination, and now that it is off the table, it's just a total blank slate in my brain and I have no clue what to expect.
Just looking at them, it makes me think that the obvious choice would be to condense things back down to three endings by merging the "whore NTR" ending into the Revenge ending. Have him just become as cruel and cold as we saw in the king's flashback (if not even more so), where he marries Rose and takes the throne... but only does it out of necessity (his duty to protect the kingdom and more personally, a pathological need for control after being inevitably betrayed by his closest loved ones), with no room in his heart to actually forgive her or the other three for hurting him so deeply. By necessity, if Cyanna and Haylen can't have any interaction with Leto... That puts the Revenge ending in a bad spot for them having any content, since it would need to be with other characters and the villains probably aren't going to be around in that ending.
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But then on a separate train of thought, I'm also wondering how it would work to handle the choice on which NTR ending you get with the current plan. With how the ending is determined so far by tallying up your dialogue choices, it would need to be a binary choice once you're locked into the NTR path. But having the player pick an option which does nothing other than arbitrarily determine if the villains are open to sharing or not would be more than a little abrupt. Especially for a character like Ulrod, where the brothel quest made it pretty damn explicit that he would not be open that.
And that makes me wonder if the "whore NTR" ending would actually make more sense as a variant of the Happy ending instead, where Leto thwarts the conspiracy either way, but is given an obvious (to the player) choice between doing it the right way, which leads to the Happy ending... or some foolish and naïve way, which gives you the Bad/"Hollow" ending version instead, where the villains are defeated, but Leto's life still slowly falls apart even in their absence because picking that foolish option is a confirmation that Leto (in this ending) hasn't actually changed or learned anything throughout the story. In a thematic sense, the Bad ending is a punishment for his stagnation while the Happy ending is a reward for his growth.
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Damn, you're one train of thought away from becoming a train station, luckly for you i'll gladly provide that one more train to keep you up at night, if you wanna brainstorm about HC3 then come up with something for this:
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my 9/11 was today, there will be no true ending and next game there will be no mom ntr, oh my god!!!