RPGM Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3 : The Peacekeepers [Update 16] [N_taii]

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Chaussettes

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I feel like you're letting their backstory override what they're doing. The Duke as we know him is a selfish, self aggrandizing, manipulative, cruel, spiteful, and controlling person. What's the first thing he does when Leto, Cyanna, and the former royal maid do when they meet him? He introduces himself, has Brutus/Elrod open the gate for him and he walks away to "interview" the maid with her ass in his hand. He's a creep immediately. Minutes later he's forcing her to give him a blowjob. T

he Duke makes it obvious he's a rapist in less than five minutes. He's probably also directly or indirectly responsible for the assassination of the king and queen given his clandestine operations and immediate response to the power vacuum. The fact that he was able to have a device to drain Rose's sexual activities with him so quickly makes it pretty clear he's the big evil. His background is simply there to give him a reason for behaving how he does instead of just making him a generic, faceless, nameless bad guy. The same can be said of Ulrod, he leads his crew of mercenaries into raping every woman in the guard unit sent to fight monsters except for one. He leads the gang rape of at least three women. Is he a simp for Cyanna? Yes. Is he still raping every woman he can get his hands on while also doing his best to force himself on Cyanna at every opportunity? Yes. Sooner or later the shoe is going to drop and Ulrod is going to go full villain as the lead crony of the Duke. Maybe he even winds up dead at the Duke's hand because he outlives his usefulness and the Duke wants Cyanna. Making the antagonists nameless, faceless assholes is boring and repetitive.
Yes I agree with most of what you said. But I do prefer the antagonists to be assholes and just that, it links to NTR being enjoyed in a different way by each. I prefer NTR happening because it's nature and the strong just takes without a care, and the strong having never been weak, they don't need backstories and especially no tragic ones. You find that boring and repetitive and I can understand.

But like... if Cyanna were to trip in the stairs, hit her neck and die, Ulrod would be destroyed, he would go back to being the usual rapey leader he is and only that, and he would be depressed for the rest of his life, that's what the game still dictates. I find that mid for a NTR antag I guess. I think if Rose were to die, the duke would be very sad as well. The fate of "their" girls is so directly tied to theirs it's a bit unsettling. I feel like the best NTR antags are the ones who, presented with the unexpected death of one of their girls, would just shrug it off saying "Ah, fuck... One less toy to play with, that sucks... Well whatever there are always new ones".

I won't talk more about that because I feel like I'm polluting the post, I said my piece and I'm still following n_taii in this.
 

Oriandu

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Yes I agree with most of what you said. But I do prefer the antagonists to be assholes and just that, it links to NTR being enjoyed in a different way by each. I prefer NTR happening because it's nature and the strong just takes without a care, and the strong having never been weak, they don't need backstories and especially no tragic ones. You find that boring and repetitive and I can understand.

But like... if Cyanna were to trip in the stairs, hit her neck and die, Ulrod would be destroyed, he would go back to being the usual rapey leader he is and only that, and he would be depressed for the rest of his life, that's what the game still dictates. I find that mid for a NTR antag I guess. I think if Rose were to die, the duke would be very sad as well. The fate of "their" girls is so directly tied to theirs it's a bit unsettling. I feel like the best NTR antags are the ones who, presented with the unexpected death of one of their girls, would just shrug it off saying "Ah, fuck... One less toy to play with, that sucks... Well whatever there are always new ones".

I won't talk more about that because I feel like I'm polluting the post, I said my piece and I'm still following n_taii in this.
You're not polluting the post. All opinions are of value, especially dissenting ones as they're how discussions grow.
 
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raynarnab

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I feel like the best NTR antags are the ones who, presented with the unexpected death of one of their girls, would just shrug it off saying "Ah, fuck... One less toy to play with, that sucks... Well whatever there are always new ones".
It's an interesting take, but I find this has been done multiple times, so I actually find nuanced antagonists way more interesting. It complicates the feelings of not only the MC but as a reader as well. I think for me if NTR is is about making you feel complicated, a nuanced antagonist whom you dislike but can feel for make it way more interesting to read.

Having said that I understand the power fantasy people are going for when they are reading a genre so I can see your take. It's just that the usual take does not lend to interesting characters in my opinion.
 
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Oriandu

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NTR villains being assholes works with shorter, less detailed products. It works for manga, doujin, and hentai anime that is a few episodes long, but it doesn't really work for that well for anything that is heavily driven by story. HC3 is a story driven project that relies on corruption to sell the cucking of its MC. HC1 got away with making its villain one note because the game itself was short, lacking in detail, and didn't tell much of a story outside of that corruption, even the main villain's scheme to conquer the world was secondary to the NTR. Conversely HC2 dropped the ball by being too harsh on Noah, he's basically treated like a completely inept buffoon by everyone in the village, which makes the abusive behaviour of his mother and Cellis feel justified because Noah is too stupid, unobservant, and childish to figure out the obvious nonsense that's going on until he's so badly positioned that there's no way he can succeed and the game has to rely on deus ex machina for the second time in a row.

With HC3 it feels like N_Taii is starting to get a handle on how to make a story that feels satisfying. Leto is older and has been presented as more competent than his predecessors, is actually in a relationship with one of the main women, and he has independent motivations that cause him to be away when his friends and loved ones are being harassed by their "partners". This will ultimately make the NTR feel far more effective, and it will allow the villains to be far more depraved as well. Yes the motivations of Ulrod do make him pathetic, but he's still a giant asshole whose actions. Personally in regards to Cyanna I kind of hope Ulrod winds up turning her into something he can't handle himself and she winds up using him to get off instead of the other way around.
 

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AND WHERE IS ALL THE FAN ART?!?!? Top rated game??? I see every time I open my bookmarked NTR latest games tab and been holding off for a while due being turned off by lengthy story and pixels... No additional artworks, character sheets, ??? Like where is the art people!! I even rule34 and the tags don't exist? twitter no good, pixiv hard to find, nozomi.la no show, Like is this not popular?? Where's the dedicated fan works?? I NEED THE VISUALS AHHHHHHH!!! I JUST NEED VISUAL OF SGT ALYS!! I picture her messy hair, curvy body, and defiant expression with an instant loss of being pounded by a man who defeated her ughh.. and it doesn't exist. :mad: might have to draw it myself dammit!!
I've got the skills of a 3rd grader when it comes to art but if you really want it i can cook up something for you in Paint, i hope you love stick figures in all black and white.
 
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abdo2021

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hey N_tall I have a problem dude when i go to talk to nezar after i finished talking with the duke the game write
"unknown type error: can not read property of 'width' null" and close the game immediately how i can solve this problem man
 

Oriandu

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are there any dirty old men?
Two of them. The main girl, Princess Rose, is partnered with a middle aged Duke who has spent practically his entire adult life in a position of power. He's self important, pushy, arrogant, and vastly more sexually experienced than she is as he runs what amounts to a personal harem on his lands.

One of the secondary girls, Lily, is slowly becoming involved with her boss at the magic shop, who is a middle aged man with a penchant for spanking.
 

Oriandu

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Was bored and I downloaded Inatari Tales... I'm not even sure if "inspired" by HC would be an accurate description. So far it's basically HC2 with goblins.
 
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LordFrz

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Was bored and I downloaded Inatari Tales... I'm not even sure if "inspired" by HC would be an accurate description. So far it's basically HC2 with goblins.
I would second that work as well. It's been improving a lot with each update.
 

Oriandu

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I can't get past the adult sprites. For all the limitations of the HC1 and 2's smaller, less detailed sprites based off on the default ones available on RPGM, at least they didn't look like dinosaurs.
 

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Not really. Virtually all pixel based RPGM games are trash even before you factor in the story. The "pixel sprite" has not become more refined, it is just as difficult as its always been, the core of the pixel sprite RPGM is not the storyline.
but imagine if The pixel Sprite has become more refined and not difficult, the core of the pixel Sprite RPGM is the story line
 
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andybc

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I have a better idea, let's imagine that you're all going to stop acting like morons.
Half the comments are essay responses from you. If you think all RPGMaker pixel animations are trash, why are you here? How does someone have this much time to spend on a thread they dislike?
 
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XDMW

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Not really. Virtually all pixel based RPGM games are trash even before you factor in the story. The "pixel sprite" has not become more refined, it is just as difficult as its always been, the core of the pixel sprite RPGM is not the storyline.

Pixels are allowed to ignore some details, based on this: pixels are not difficult,

Adding more detail to the pixels is gilding the lily.



Pixels allow you to imagine more

Creators have more time to spend on content,

There is more room for innovation in gameplay, story, and so on.



So pixel games can often make a good game!
 
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