Ren'Py Hermione Trainer [v0.2] [EdgeAI]

[Harem Trooper]

There is a very strong crackdown on underage content. If you want a game to continue it's not by going this route

The dev already said no to this, so thats that sadly. But im more interested on this whole crackdown thing. Subscriber is still save for that, right ? Or was that changed too?

 

[VictorDoUrden]

I run ComfyUI locally, but i do alot of manual editing myself with Krita to get consistent artwork.

So looking it up it this comfyui can be run local and make images by what long details you type into it? and Krita is ? going by images it looks like adobe photoshop except not shitty and not stealing your stuff. Looks manual as in you do some editing/redrawing then?

 

[VictorDoUrden]

Since there are new people in here

Akabur (aka Akaman) is the dev for Witch Trainer = https://f95zone.to/threads/witch-trainer-final-akabur.763/

which spun off several iterations of trainers and mods. One of the only mods barely showing life is
Silver Studio's Silver Mod = https://f95zone.to/threads/witch-trainer-silver-mod-v1-46-1-silver-studio-games.1697/

and some leeches/patreon milkers like
Sad Crab's Innocent Witches = https://f95zone.to/threads/innocent-witches-v0-11-alpha-sad-crab.330/

Akabur also had Hermione in star channel 34 and some of that art has made it's way into Silver
https://f95zone.to/threads/star-channel-34-season-1-ep-12-akabur.1391/

With the AI revolution there have been a couple other attempts with one of the better attempts being
Kirill Repin Art's With Hermione = https://f95zone.to/threads/with-hermione-v0-3-3-0-alpha-kirill-repin-art.114713/
as it's using a custom ai model while also utilizing AI speech

IW holy fuckballs 2016 and no progress
I forgot about that one. That shit is still for sure abandoned

 

[nada_nix]

Did you notice the name of the whole game yet? I mean, you can't really put any character more 'front and center' as a focus than naming the whole game after them. That's why the criticism. If the title were 'Sorceress Seducer' or whatever then that's a different matter. But with this title, the game is specifically trying to appeal to fans of one specific character from popular fiction.

While I understand your point about respecting the source material, the perspective you are missing about the appeal of this game is that the goal of games like this is not necessarily Hermione. This game is not only attracting Hermione fans.
The title instantly drew my attention since it was obviously a reference to Akabur. That was my draw, and I'm sure to many others.
You asked for understanding the appeal of this version of Hermione. My answer is a part of that.

 

[lnomsim]

So far the character's art is ok.
But I think you rely too much on the AI to do all the job.

Witch trainer uses a doll, on which clothes, facial expression, etc are added.
The fact you use the AI to render the whole character is limiting and will be even more down the road.
I think you should rend the doll and the accessories separately.

OR, use inpainting instead of a whole new prompt or img2img. When Snape shows her breasts, her clothes and thighs completely change. Only her arms and torso should.

Also, when you do your handmade changes, pay attention to the hands. Snape has 5 fingers. We should only see 4 when her arms are crossed.

I was going to say you should try to create the backgrounds with AI too, but I tried for the past 20min, and... yup, it's harder than I thought.

Good luck with your project.

 

[Edgelord69420]

So far the character's art is ok.
But I think you rely too much on the AI to do all the job.

Witch trainer uses a doll, on which clothes, facial expression, etc are added.
The fact you use the AI to render the whole character is limiting and will be even more down the road.
I think you should rend the doll and the accessories separately.

OR, use inpainting instead of a whole new prompt or img2img. When Snape shows her breasts, her clothes and thighs completely change. Only her arms and torso should.

Also, when you do your handmade changes, pay attention to the hands. Snape has 5 fingers. We should only see 4 when her arms are crossed.

I was going to say you should try to create the backgrounds with AI too, but I tried for the past 20min, and... yup, it's harder than I thought.

Good luck with your project.

Everything is work in progress now. And i have already stated many times that backgrounds are something i want to actually draw by hand. Im bad at characters, but i do know how to draw semi well so i will be replacing all that. And inpainting is what i use, I will look into redoing her lower half in the show breasts pic too. And when it comes to fingers, that was just an oversight on my part. The show breasts pic also had 6 fingers, but i removed it by hand with editing. I do alot of work by hand in krita. Its not 100% Ai.

 

[mattius77]

Why do people like to train Hermione so much? I swear this is like at least the 5th game I've seen throughout the years where you train Hermione. She graduated from Hogwarts 15 years ago, leave the poor girl alone.

Hermione Granger is like the gold standard of Rule 34 fan-fic/porn.

 

[Karnewarrior]

Love the "I have only been coding in renpy for a few days so far" followed by the "And I will do all the coding myself with no AI tools to help". Just use chatGPT to help you code man. Wether you copy it from stack overflow or chatGPT nobody cares lol.

ChatGPT's coding is... Questionable. And I say that as someone who uses it semi-frequently.

To use GPT for coding, you have to already know how to code and specifically how to debug, which is the most complicated part of coding. Otherwise when GPT spits out something silly and wrong you won't know how to catch it. If you just copy-paste GPT code into an IDE and hit run you're gonna be at it for a pretty darn long time.

GPT is a useful assistant, but cannot as it currently is replace a proper, skilled technician at anything. All it can do is assist.

If you're going down that path why not make her black or asian. Add some diversity and inclusion.

I'd be all for that. A hot Black or Asian Hermione would make the game pretty distinctive.

Some smaller busts would also be nice. No need to go full loli, especially if that's not the dev's kink. But I definitely prefer my A and B cups.

 

[zwtku]

And another one of those. Like a trainer game is all that people can think of in the Hogwarts universe. No hate, just an observation.

 

[Edgelord69420]

ChatGPT's coding is... Questionable. And I say that as someone who uses it semi-frequently.

To use GPT for coding, you have to already know how to code and specifically how to debug, which is the most complicated part of coding. Otherwise when GPT spits out something silly and wrong you won't know how to catch it. If you just copy-paste GPT code into an IDE and hit run you're gonna be at it for a pretty darn long time.

GPT is a useful assistant, but cannot as it currently is replace a proper, skilled technician at anything. All it can do is assist.


I'd be all for that. A hot Black or Asian Hermione would make the game pretty distinctive.

Im not super hyped on the idea of changing the race of characters, But depending on how i progress and time i get to work on the project i would absolutely add some diversity to the cast of girls you can seduce

 

[Karnewarrior]

Im not super hyped on the idea of changing the race of characters, But depending on how i progress and time i get to work on the project i would absolutely add some diversity to the cast of girls you can seduce

I was mostly memeing, tbh. Raceswaps are, at best, a lateral move. But everyone treats them like they're horrible character murders when most of the time they're just unnecessary. Hermione being black doesn't change anything significant about her character, Hermione isn't defined by being a white girl.

It's like people reacting with shock and disgust at the thought of someone leaving palm tree leaves on the sidewalk to prickle peoples' feet when there are guys out there putting fucking landmines in their front lawn.


That said, the original Witch Trainer had Cho Chang, who's canonically asian, and if you're genderswapping characters I think Seamus from the movies was black. You could also go the OC route if you wanted to.

 

[Harem Trooper]

Why do people like to train Hermione so much? I swear this is like at least the 5th game I've seen throughout the years where you train Hermione. She graduated from Hogwarts 15 years ago, leave the poor girl alone.

"lEaVe hEr AlOoooOnE!"

You say there are at least 5 out there in a way as this is a bad thing. Well, to some point you right, we need like 50 of them! Also you saying you dont want to "teach", "correct" and "punish" her?

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All jokes by the way, dont take it to personaly
But yeah, its kinda odd to see that THAT Hermie girl still is popular to this day, though as you mentioned she is already old...and ugly:

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There was some debate even on this coomer site about why and how people keep making porn of her, mostly the logical thing I remembered was that most people knew her when they were teens too, so "she" kinda grow to them and many found her attractive and probably had a crush on her. But if I shall be honest, the easy way to explain is that she looks cute and beautiful and since she is pretty much known for playing a role in a "school" and wears "school uniform", the thought to dominate or "teach" her a lesson is a fetish for many, since she has/had that one smug smile of hers.

I mean look for me as a example, I never watched it nor did I read the books nor I played the games. All I know from this universe is from porn lol. But one thing I cant disagree is that Hermie is a fucking hot tease who needs to be punished(sexually) with my meat rod(dick) and unlike Akaburs game - she will be my personaly plaything(hand holding + sloppy deepthroughts)
I hope that helps

 

[Lsardin]

Nothing to really judge the game on, but I like the character art a lot! I will keep an eye out for this game

 

[Paitryn]

And still people see the art and think Akabur right away, maybe not toned down enough XD

Anyway good luck to you.

TBF anything with the words Trainer and Hermoine people are going to put Akaburs name in the comments. The dev really shouldn't worry too much about it. It's going to be a positive for some or a deal breaker for others, but doing the inverse will be just as true.

 

[TheByQ]

And still people see the art and think Akabur right away, maybe not toned down enough XD

Anyway good luck to you.

I'm pretty sure it's only because any game here with Hermione (except one) makes people instantly think of Witch Trainer, because she looks different from what Akabur draws

 

[Paitryn]

almost every generation had that one girl, But I think Hermoine stands out because people literally grew up with her. Every other generation had a one off movie or so with a hot girl but nothing like what Milennials got from Hermoine.

 

[Ratnedalu]

The AI has some slight influences from Akabur but it been toned down ALOT to avoid recreating his style since im not comfortable hijacking his artstyle. I wanted to make it visually distinct. I don't wanna offer a replacement for Akaburs unique art, but rather create something new. Even the design for Hermione herself might change a bit since i feel the hair makes it too much like his style.

I think she looks fine.

But dear god, please, punctuation, capitalization, spelling, typos... spellcheck this first. "sittind" is just, not okay... capitalize "I" in particular!

(And I'm sorry if English isn't your first language; from the type of mistakes it seems like the mistakes someone whose first language IS English would make...)

 

[Edgelord69420]

I think she looks fine.

But dear god, please, punctuation, capitalization, spelling, typos... spellcheck this first. "sittind" is just, not okay... capitalize "I" in particular!

(And I'm sorry if English isn't your first language; from the type of mistakes it seems like the mistakes someone whose first language IS English would make...)

English isn't my first language no, but these mistakes are present because for the first part I wrote everything in Visual studio with no proofreading. It was just meant to move the game forward so I could showcase more content. All the other writing I have done for the game after the fact has been written with a spellchecker and proofreading. The entire first part of the game is going to change a lot and ill put more effort in my writing and grammar for the content that I know will make it further along in the development.

 

[Edgelord69420]

I was mostly memeing, tbh. Raceswaps are, at best, a lateral move. But everyone treats them like they're horrible character murders when most of the time they're just unnecessary. Hermione being black doesn't change anything significant about her character, Hermione isn't defined by being a white girl.

It's like people reacting with shock and disgust at the thought of someone leaving palm tree leaves on the sidewalk to prickle peoples' feet when there are guys out there putting fucking landmines in their front lawn.


That said, the original Witch Trainer had Cho Chang, who's canonically asian, and if you're genderswapping characters I think Seamus from the movies was black. You could also go the OC route if you wanted to.

I grew up with the movies so Hermione in my mind will always use Emma Watson as a baseline. I can't really picture her in any other way. If I have time to expand the selection of girls with some OC I will absolutely try to get a diverse cast. I want to make something for everyone.

 

[Bruel]

As much as I'm conflicted about using what's clearly akabur's art to either train or configure this AI, I have to say that having more of "his work" to enjoy feels nice.