Ren'Py Hero Party Must Fall [v0.5.0 Bugfix 2] [Nitrolith]

[SortaLewd]

I'm rather conflicted about the newest update. Putting aside my personal preference for main characters over side adventures, the writing has changed and not entirely for the best.

The art has massively improved, that nobody can deny. It's often weird seeing old and good art together, it's interesting how fast Nitro has improved. Alain next to Yvet looks ridiculous. Mars still changes skincolors to give "contrast" but eh. Animations are much better this time around.

But the writing is kind of offputting. This game was gripping at first because it was actually interesting to see Mars quasi-realistically getting into people's minds slowly but surely. The game defied porn logic, it actually took time and effort to bring down character's walls and it happened in a convincing manner.

This update though, everyone who hates us just instantly becomes cock addicted and changes their worldview in a flash because Mars is just that good at fucking apparently. Imagine if Cecille immediately gave up the moment Mars showed his dick. It's so lazy and frankly completely unrelatable that it becomes impossible to suspend your sense of disbelief. Not that you can relate to any of the characters in the series. I use that phrase as in it's difficult to see any of the characters as human in this update. They just become caricaturized, flanderized porn characters again, which is a massive downgrade from where the game started.

Just reading through comments and glad to see someone else felt the same. Cecille is the main offender for me though, it just felt off with her going from being someone bickering and bantering back and forth with Mars to being a full on sex addict and overall cruel/unlikable.

The whole thing with Yvettes brother was weird too. Not really sure what the aim is with giving him focus while

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, but couldve gone without that. It kind of came out of nowhere and didn't choose any options that showed interest in that kind of thing afaik.

 

[dederex10]

Just reading through comments and glad to see someone else felt the same. Cecille is the main offender for me though, it just felt off with her going from being someone bickering and bantering back and forth with Mars to being a full on sex addict and overall cruel/unlikable.

The whole thing with Yvettes brother was weird too. Not really sure what the aim is with giving him focus while

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, but couldve gone without that. It kind of came out of nowhere and didn't choose any options that showed interest in that kind of thing afaik.

my interpretation was that he was masturbating thinking about mars and his sister and mother thought it was about them

 

[Milkman22]

Guys if anyone is still here I bought the potion from the demon lady but how do I use it?

 

[im_worthless]

Man this update was soo good I wish it was long Yvet and jasmine content was top tier. Gwen content did feel somewhat lacking but I think nitrolith did not have enough time to fit all the content that's why it feels lackluster

 

[jack koff]

oop how do you enter the console? (sorry if dumb question)

Shift+O while the game is running

 

[InstaPrincess]

When clicking on Ivet. I am at the point where Sera is fighting Mars at night.

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[DrRoboto99]

When clicking on Ivet. I am at the point where Sera is fighting Mars at night.

ScriptError: could not find label 'avg_p2_40'.

That script error basically means that it's trying to load Yvet - Part 2 - Scene 40, and the problem is that there are only 27 scenes.

Next time before clicking her, open the console "Shift + O" and type in "avg_phase = X" but replace X with whatever scene number you want, I don't know where you were supposed to be up to. For reference, 11 is the scene where Mars has dinner with the family and then bangs Yvet while the rest of them can hear. If you weren't even up to 10 yet then you are better off just using the paths option to restart from the latest path.

 

[InstaPrincess]

That script error basically means that it's trying to load Yvet - Part 2 - Scene 40, and the problem is that there are only 27 scenes.

Next time before clicking her, open the console "Shift + O" and type in "avg_phase = X" but replace X with whatever scene number you want, I don't know where you were supposed to be up to. For reference, 11 is the scene where Mars has dinner with the family and then bangs Yvet while the rest of them can hear. If you weren't even up to 10 yet then you are better off just using the paths option to restart from the latest path.

Interesting. Thank you. I started new from the start actually and Ivet's scene was stuck at the repeatable one at the tree. I did not advance beyond that. I will try your solution and see where that gets me. Thank you again.

 

[thememeguy123]

I still believe my game is bugged but kind of too lazy to replay from 0.4.3 it's a lot of skipping, question to people that finished the game, is the battle against Erin available yet? I get a loop everytime Cecile says Erin has to battle Mars but now I see there are like 10 scenes in the gallery for Erin that I don't remember watching. also do you have all the new scenes in the gallery (the new sidecharacters and new Yvet story etc.) if I wanted to delete everything and start from 0.4.3 to maybe fix any potential bugs I (believe) I have how to do that? because I tried downloading the newest version again without using my save files from previous ones and it still recognizes the old saves in game. can a kind soul help a brother out here I don't wanna miss any content from the game because I fucked up the saves (I only now saw there are potential bugs if you transfer saves mentioned by the dev and I already did that on the last release 2-3 months ago)

 

[MeiMilana]

Im probably just doing something wrong here, but how do i update from previous versions of the game? I extracted and ran the 0.5 version, but it only lets me play up to the previous version's content, and the paths menu still lists 0.4.3 as the lastest path

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

I still believe my game is bugged but kind of too lazy to replay from 0.4.3 it's a lot of skipping, question to people that finished the game, is the battle against Erin available yet? I get a loop everytime Cecile says Erin has to battle Mars but now I see there are like 10 scenes in the gallery for Erin that I don't remember watching. also do you have all the new scenes in the gallery (the new sidecharacters and new Yvet story etc.) if I wanted to delete everything and start from 0.4.3 to maybe fix any potential bugs I (believe) I have how to do that? because I tried downloading the newest version again without using my save files from previous ones and it still recognizes the old saves in game. can a kind soul help a brother out here I don't wanna miss any content from the game because I fucked up the saves (I only now saw there are potential bugs if you transfer saves mentioned by the dev and I already did that on the last release 2-3 months ago)

You should do that every update. Since 0.4.3 launched I've had game breaking bugs every single time I've tried to use old saves. The paths menu is pretty well mandatory for each new update. Menus and events were broken when I tried to use the Sera save for Cecille and Elena/Erin update was broken when I tried to use my Cecille save for it. When I tried to use my Elena/Erin save for this update old events were repeating and dialogues weren't clearing after I viewed them. Just use paths every update and you'll be fine.
Fight isn't available yet.

Im probably just doing something wrong here, but how do i update from previous versions of the game? I extracted and ran the 0.5 version, but it only lets me play up to the previous version's content, and the paths menu still lists 0.4.3 as the lastest path

This update was focused on side content. 0.4.3 is the latest version in paths because every update since it uses it as a unified starting point. We should get a new path start next update.

 

[AgitatingSkeleton]

legit how do i make cecille cum? her stamina just drains even if i switch up the position and pace

 

[thememeguy123]

You should do that every update. Since 0.4.3 launched I've had game breaking bugs every single time I've tried to use old saves. The paths menu is pretty well mandatory for each new update. Menus and events were broken when I tried to use the Sera save for Cecille and Elena/Erin update was broken when I tried to use my Cecille save for it. When I tried to use my Elena/Erin save for this update old events were repeating and dialogues weren't clearing after I viewed them. Just use paths every update and you'll be fine.
Fight isn't available yet.

This update was focused on side content. 0.4.3 is the latest version in paths because every update since it uses it as a unified starting point. We should get a new path start next update.

alright thanks mate looks like there is no way around than replaying most of the things, do you know how to do a complete fresh restart of the game though? as I've mentioned downloading the game again and starting it still shows old saves even without importing them into the folder so it probably will be just the same result even if I start it from a new path

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

alright thanks mate looks like there is no way around than replaying most of the things, do you know how to do a complete fresh restart of the game though? as I've mentioned downloading the game again and starting it still shows old saves even without importing them into the folder so it probably will be just the same result even if I start it from a new path

Hover your mouse over the save and hit the delete key. Not sure how to delete them if you're on android, although you could just save over every slot you end up needing. If you're on windows you could also go into your appdata\roaming\renpy folder and delete them there, if you can't find it then google appdata folder.

 

[thememeguy123]

Hover your mouse over the save and hit the delete key. Not sure how to delete them if you're on android, although you could just save over every slot you end up needing. If you're on windows you could also go into your appdata\roaming\renpy folder and delete them there, if you can't find it then google appdata folder.

thanks, I didn't think of just deleting them in game the appdata path is something I was looking for, sadly that games folder is not in there unless its called HeroVN (can someone confirm?). otherwise just gonna try deleting in game I guess

 

[ben-san123]

Nitro can you make it so that we can do all the characters(ceci, sera, elena and everyone) routes in one run rather than in many runs. then the ending can be a true harem one.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

thanks, I didn't think of just deleting them in game the appdata path is something I was looking for, sadly that games folder is not in there unless its called HeroVN (can someone confirm?). otherwise just gonna try deleting in game I guess

Ya looks like it's HeroVN. If you delete from the app data then make sure to leave the persistent or you'll lose gallery and skip data

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Nitro can you make it so that we can do all the characters(ceci, sera, elena and everyone) routes in one run rather than in many runs. then the ending can be a true harem one.

There's already a full harem route ending planned. You can run almost the entire route in one save and then just play the finale for the one you want to progress with. Harem ending is going to require a solid spread between all LI's points and that's probably going to be the best strategy to get that without cheats.

 

[thememeguy123]

Ya looks like it's HeroVN. If you delete from the app data then make sure to leave the persistent or you'll lose gallery and skip data

interesting thanks for the tip, it looked like I couldn't skip anything when I started 0.4.3 though. anyways just gotta find out, might even wait for another bugfix before trying as one more is coming it looks like

 

[xxstreptococoxx]

I'm rather conflicted about the newest update. Putting aside my personal preference for main characters over side adventures, the writing has changed and not entirely for the best.

The art has massively improved, that nobody can deny. It's often weird seeing old and good art together, it's interesting how fast Nitro has improved. Alain next to Yvet looks ridiculous. Mars still changes skincolors to give "contrast" but eh. Animations are much better this time around.

But the writing is kind of offputting. This game was gripping at first because it was actually interesting to see Mars quasi-realistically getting into people's minds slowly but surely. The game defied porn logic, it actually took time and effort to bring down character's walls and it happened in a convincing manner.

This update though, everyone who hates us just instantly becomes cock addicted and changes their worldview in a flash because Mars is just that good at fucking apparently. Imagine if Cecille immediately gave up the moment Mars showed his dick. It's so lazy and frankly completely unrelatable that it becomes impossible to suspend your sense of disbelief. Not that you can relate to any of the characters in the series. I use that phrase as in it's difficult to see any of the characters as human in this update. They just become caricaturized, flanderized porn characters again, which is a massive downgrade from where the game started.

Gwyndolin especially was the biggest example of that to me. Her "fall" is unfinished, but what's available still sucks. Elena's latest batch of content is also stretching the scope of her character to tearing. She has a lot of content and a lot of development, yet I still cannot see this Elena from the first Elena that Nitro shows, and that's not just because she wasn't fucked at that point. It's obvious plans for her were changed midway and that change is straining the initial character that was shown. She's so fucking dumb atm and so comically "opposite" of her "original self" in the name of cheap irony I can't take anything about her seriously. Yvet's family furthermore just...kind of sucks. Mars goes and does this family therapy 101 bullshit with the dad and the dad just suddenly thanks Mars for cucking him and...becomes fine with it??? Like sure, the village is full of weirdo fucks and the game states that constantly, but if you're gonna use that as a crux for every stupid 180 in writing that's just shoddy.

I understand that mere NPC characters cannot enjoy the same amount of depth that Cecille, Sera and Erin do and that character development for them needs to happen on a faster pace. But then that just means you have to keep the scope for these NPCs small rather than turn Mars into some actual godlike being who has entire cults around his dick with everyone ever just immediately getting brainwashed from precum. It genuinely makes the story have 0 weight or sense otherwise and it just becomes yet another porn game on the list rather than something special.

Also less Erin POV's please? This is a "pure Netori game" in Nitro's own words from discord, not a netorare game.

Glad i am not the only one who is seeing a MASSIVE drop in writting quality, i have to be as honest as i can, artstyle aside (which is godlike) i am not impressed to be honest.

i havent fully gone to the entire content, but i have to say, the game suddenly became the classic "MC whit a big dick changes every woman because his dick is that big" not saying EVERYTHING was like that, the Jasmine content was decently good, but too quick and rushed out, YES, NPCS dont need to be as deep as the main characters but DO NOT THROW EVERYTHING IN A SINGLE PATCH, we all know Mars is eventually going to fuck everyone and everything sooner or later, but dont make it so quick and obvious.

The one thing that kept me interested in this game is how the main cast was able to completely resist Mars charms, Cecille basically ignored you entirely during the first Sera training session, and Sera did the same herself, and yes, real women once they get hooked they turn stupid just like Cecille did, but real women do not lose their personalities entirely, Cecille is absolutely an entirely different character, same whit Elena.

the ONLY character who has changed BUT keeps being the same is Sera (the one true Waifu lets be realistic here) and Sera content might as well have been the peak of this game, but i am fair, i dont hate the game in any way, i love it, i think this is the highest quality tier game in this site, so for THAT reason i dont want it to turn into another generic "MC whit big dick just fucks anything and gets away whit it"

i am willing to see an entire patch were Mars doesnt get to pull out his dick only to setup the characters.