Ren'Py Hero Party Must Fall [v0.5.1] [Nitrolith]

[ayyylmaooo]

I'm rather conflicted about the newest update. Putting aside my personal preference for main characters over side adventures, the writing has changed and not entirely for the best.

The art has massively improved, that nobody can deny. It's often weird seeing old and good art together, it's interesting how fast Nitro has improved. Alain next to Yvet looks ridiculous. Mars still changes skincolors to give "contrast" but eh. Animations are much better this time around.

But the writing is kind of offputting. This game was gripping at first because it was actually interesting to see Mars quasi-realistically getting into people's minds slowly but surely. The game defied porn logic, it actually took time and effort to bring down character's walls and it happened in a convincing manner.

This update though, everyone who hates us just instantly becomes cock addicted and changes their worldview in a flash because Mars is just that good at fucking apparently. Imagine if Cecille immediately gave up the moment Mars showed his dick. It's so lazy and frankly completely unrelatable that it becomes impossible to suspend your sense of disbelief. Not that you can relate to any of the characters in the series. I use that phrase as in it's difficult to see any of the characters as human in this update. They just become caricaturized, flanderized porn characters again, which is a massive downgrade from where the game started.

Gwyndolin especially was the biggest example of that to me. Her "fall" is unfinished, but what's available still sucks. Elena's latest batch of content is also stretching the scope of her character to tearing. She has a lot of content and a lot of development, yet I still cannot see this Elena from the first Elena that Nitro shows, and that's not just because she wasn't fucked at that point. It's obvious plans for her were changed midway and that change is straining the initial character that was shown. She's so fucking dumb atm and so comically "opposite" of her "original self" in the name of cheap irony I can't take anything about her seriously. Yvet's family furthermore just...kind of sucks. Mars goes and does this family therapy 101 bullshit with the dad and the dad just suddenly thanks Mars for cucking him and...becomes fine with it??? Like sure, the village is full of weirdo fucks and the game states that constantly, but if you're gonna use that as a crux for every stupid 180 in writing that's just shoddy.

I understand that mere NPC characters cannot enjoy the same amount of depth that Cecille, Sera and Erin do and that character development for them needs to happen on a faster pace. But then that just means you have to keep the scope for these NPCs small rather than turn Mars into some actual godlike being who has entire cults around his dick with everyone ever just immediately getting brainwashed from precum. It genuinely makes the story have 0 weight or sense otherwise and it just becomes yet another porn game on the list rather than something special.

Also less Erin POV's please? This is a "pure Netori game" in Nitro's own words from discord, not a netorare game.

i agree partly, i think a big difference is that mars is now a hero and a hero basically has godlike powers as is stated multiple times.

and take gwendolynn for example, since we are playing update to update we finish her corruption in a rapid pace because we are already done with the available story, if you were to start a new game it would be stretched from beginning to end. you wouldnt be able to corrupt her before having broken down cecille and erin and elena, before becoming a hero.

 

[ayyylmaooo]

whats bro so salty about? you don't HAVE to play the sissification route. Though it does add a nice element to Cecile's route with the humiliation factor.. it's not that bad ffs. relax...

you kinda have to if you want the story to make sense, im just skipping through the gay stuff in the hope that you will soon be able to actually turn him into a full female with some magic or some shit. i will always love the game for the corruption aspect and cecille imo is one of the best porn characters in general, but lately it has feeled like the focus of the game has shifted to more gay and sissy stuff. and im not knocking anyone who is into that, its just a bummer if you arent, because the game is so good and i really dont want to miss out on the straight stuff you know what i mean?

 

[rangaru]

you kinda have to if you want the story to make sense, im just skipping through the gay stuff in the hope that you will soon be able to actually turn him into a full female with some magic or some shit.

Or we could just have a route which the game remains netori, a genre when man takes another man's women. Not a sissification gay fest.

 

[SomeRandomFuckwad]

seems interesting.

 

[wiseold6996]

really didnt see that marika was a dude until the talk with sera, i feel disgusted and betrayed

Same

 

[ayyylmaooo]

Or we could just have a route which the game remains netori, a genre when man takes another man's women. Not a sissification gay fest.

shiii you aint got to tell me i would prefer that too, i aint the developer though.

 

[rangaru]

shiii you aint got to tell me i would prefer that too, i aint the developer though.

Dev seems like really cool dude, I'm sure that as long he is not convinced that 90% of playerbase want TS/gayshit, he will implement decent hetero route. Maybe not as elaborate as feminisation, but with at least enough unique content to make it worth playing and for story to make sense.

 

[SaddamHussein]

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eh what a fking r*tard

Fucking zoomer, the game had zero gay content until good half of it, then there was the option to explicitly turn it off but its coming back despite that. NORMAL players have AT THE VERY LEAST right to feel betrayed by this blatant lobbying and shift and force feeding.

But what the fk would you know? You are just a baby boy, you dont know any better.

Whatever, he can make as much gay content as he wants for all I care, but I am out, and you bet there will be a lot of people who think the same.

You sissies and CO can keep funding the whole operation on patreon, who gives a fk, for me the game's storyline is complete nonsense now written for the sake of some rich sissy patron's fantasies. I can't recommend this ever to anybody and revisit this thread. Ciao

This <removed> talking as if blackrock behind the scene pulling strings to make the gay happen ain't no way this guy pressed this hard. Go touch some grass <removed> go get a job there is no shadow organisation

 

[nitrolith]

Any way to make Erin into a chad?

You would have to wait for the sequel, sorry... chaderin is real...

Or we could just have a route which the game remains netori, a genre when man takes another man's women. Not a sissification gay fest.

You have to keep in mind that most content in this arc is optional. It's possible to do only the Sera stuff and move the story along.
The Erin femdom stuff isn't necessary at all, and it's for those people that enjoy that kind of thing.

The gender bender option will occur when starting the next and final story arc. That's the normal progression.
Mars chooses Sera or Ceci, then later in the 3rd arc the option to gender bend Erin is introduced.
The femdom route is an alternate route to get there.

I think I said this before but NPC content doesn't make sense for Mars to do, it's just there because the player wants to do it. In the original spec document it was even more explicit than that with the bad end requiring corrupting the NPCs but I changed it in the end.
The NPCs are there to cover a situation/kink for variety's sake, it's up to the player to decide if they want to bother with each one. All of it optional for the story.

Let's think about it another way, if I were to reduce all optional stuff and try to adapt it into a linear story.
I would have Mars going from Ceci to Sera and probably end with Sera. Ignoring the temptation of NPCs and Elena as that stuff is illogical for Mars to do.

Hope this makes sense

 

[BTLD]

You would have to wait for the sequel, sorry... chaderin is real...

lets hope not... better stick to netori...

 

[zackrin6]

What a hysterical animal. You shold be put down like a sick dog.

I didnt even managed to read the whole demented comment.

I wouldnt go that far but eh still overreaction honestly since its the devs choice how the game goes plus the dev did say we could gender bend Erin now didnt they

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Your need to coddle a .... is unnatural.

My dude, I'm not disagreeing with you but that's the exact kind of comment that gets multiple pages of a thread nuked

 

[bluemanticore]

My dude, I'm not disagreeing with you but that's the exact kind of comment that gets multiple pages of a thread nuked

That would be a sign of a incompetent forum staff. Nuke the mongoloid, not the thread.

 

[bobfast]

shoutout to my man mars who managed to switch races
my bro went from a tanned caucasian man at the start of the game, to lightskin in 2023/2022, to litteraly just a black man in the recent scenes.
(i dont actually care i just find it funny)

 

[kinglionheart]

shoutout to my man mars who managed to switch races
my bro went from a tanned caucasian man at the start of the game, to lightskin in 2023/2022, to litteraly just a black man in the recent scenes.
(i dont actually care i just find it funny)

He is magical

 

[DipYourFingersOnMyAss]

shit game, turned into gay fest, the patron guy that is lobbying and paying for this - fuck you bastard, you ruined the huge gem of a game

i knew the game was turning in terrible direction, this is what happens when dev starts writing content for the sake of wish fulfillment not good of the game. I cant even no longer read any of the dialogue nonsense. In the beginning it was pleasureable to read the dialogues, now its just stinky unreadable poop forever on SKIP.

eh what a fking r*tard

Fucking zoomer, the game had zero gay content until good half of it, then there was the option to explicitly turn it off but its coming back despite that. NORMAL players have AT THE VERY LEAST right to feel betrayed by this blatant lobbying and shift and force feeding.

But what the fk would you know? You are just a baby boy, you dont know any better.

Whatever, he can make as much gay content as he wants for all I care, but I am out, and you bet there will be a lot of people who think the same.

You sissies and CO can keep funding the whole operation on patreon, who gives a fk, for me the game's storyline is complete nonsense now written for the sake of some rich sissy patron's fantasies. I can't recommend this ever to anybody and revisit this thread. Ciao

you lose old man
get over it

 

[rangaru]

The gender bender option will occur when starting the next and final story arc. That's the normal progression.

It's fine, as long it's remain a option. I liked the general NTR feel the game has, I also think that tinklig the values like purity, loyalty and devotion you did makes the work unique and inspiring.
Changing man into woman (in this context) just seem like quite generic power fantasy, which I find unsatisfying ending for good NTR story. For some people to win, some people must lose.

 

[heskflesk]

Does nitro have a roadmap or something similar, or is it just announced what the focus of the next update will be? Curious to see when the main story will progress/when specific characters will have their routes continued

 

[nitrolith]

It's fine, as long it's remain a option. I liked the general NTR feel the game has, I also think that tinklig the values like purity, loyalty and devotion you did makes the work unique and inspiring.
Changing man into woman (in this context) just seem like quite generic power fantasy, which I find unsatisfying ending for good NTR story. For some people to win, some people must lose.

For a max NTR feel, you can choose not to genderbend Erin, ignore him in the next story arc and then do Cecille solo ending. That's pretty much the peak NTR route.
You can also do harem while ignoring Erin as well.

The game is structured so it accommodates quite a few tastes, but it requires some restraint not to play through all events just because they're available. Unless you're 'all the above' kind of person.

Does nitro have a roadmap or something similar, or is it just announced what the focus of the next update will be? Curious to see when the main story will progress/when specific characters will have their routes continued

I have a roadmap/spec document that I made before starting the game.
The next update is going to be about finishing up the current story arc. There will be a unique H scene for Ceci, Sera, Elena and Erin.

 

[zambiri]

Gonna try this game