Recommending Hidden Sex, Oblivious, Behind the Curtain NTR Game List

1eyed1

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Feel free to call them out anytime. If you think they're incorrect with the reasoning that it's all the check mark points in the OP's list , then sure, be delusional until the end.


I don't mind having a hater stalker for a while. As for the last sentence of your argument, that's not even my whole point. lmao
Honestly I have probably dozens of suggestions I could make for your definition, never going to post them here. A secondary thread to hold the kind that you want would actually be helpful as ones that don't really fit here could get an honorable mention and added to your more expanded list. But you are to stubborn for that.
 

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Honestly I have probably dozens of suggestions I could make for your definition, never going to post them here. A secondary thread to hold the kind that you want would actually be helpful as ones that don't really fit here could get an honorable mention and added to your more expanded list. But you are to stubborn for that.
Sure sure. Dozens. I'm scared now. :FacePalm:
But like I've been stating for hundreds of times now, the "kind that I want" is ALL in OP's list. Some of them are suggestions/shares from me as well. SO by that, I guess the op is also wrong? lol
 

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Guys, watch out in sharing stuff now . We have a discord mod dork in the thread ready to prowl and strike . (Mostly against me at this point)


Caution: GATEKEEPER dork is active in the thread.
 

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Guys, watch out in sharing stuff now . We have a discord mod dork in the thread ready to prowl and strike . (Mostly against me at this point)


Caution: GATEKEEPER dork is active in the thread.
No you are right, technically everything except for public porn is hidden from SOMEONE'S view so literally every game except ones that have every scene 100% in public should be on the list.
 

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No you are right, technically everything except for public porn is hidden from SOMEONE'S view so literally every game except ones that have every scene 100% in public should be on the list.
If that's how you view it , then by all means, do that. But that's not what I was trying to say.
 

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If that's how you view it , then by all means, do that. But that's not what I was trying to say.
I think you are wasting your time, that last argument he posted was done in such bad faith that you can probably find 10 cases of logical fallacies.

I understand calling out people when they are being disruptive but in this cases i think it is better to let him ramble alone where people can ignore him.

the funny thing is that he could be the OP of his own thread with his own metrics but instead chooses to argue and try to kick people out of something that was already made.
 
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I think you are wasting your time, that last argument he posted was done in such bad faith that you can probably find 10 cases of logical fallacies.

I understand calling out people when they are being disruptive but in this cases i think it is better to let him ramble alone where people can ignore him.

the funny thing is that he could be the OP of his own thread with his own metrics but instead chooses to argue and try to kick people out of something that was already made.
Yeah, I guess you're right on that note. I keep repeating myself at this point, that I feel the person I'm arguing with has ASD.

Also true on that last statement. Idk why I should be the one making a thread when it's the opposite.
 

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I think you are wasting your time, that last argument he posted was done in such bad faith that you can probably find 10 cases of logical fallacies.
Sure, I am in bad faith but calling me a discord mod for wanting some kind of categorization is just fine. You don't actually care about what arguments are being made only that you are right.
 

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Edit: If you're acting like a discord mod dork, you'll be called as such. Simple as that. If you're going for that logic about "real hidden sex" where the PLAYER itself cant see what happened , not even via heroine or gallery, then mostly everything from op list should be removed. IF the majority on the op list are pure mc pov w/ no PLAYER or Heroine pov , I will make a separate thread , sure.


Ahem..anyway, hopefully, we can move on for real this time. I do apologize for derailing the thread for a bit. Aside from the stuff that was shared recently , you guys found anything new?

Btw, if some of you guys haven't played Rascou VN games yet,I recommend trying it. Though iirc , you wont find most the games here in f95.
 
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Sure, I am in bad faith but calling me a discord mod for wanting some kind of categorization is just fine. You don't actually care about what arguments are being made only that you are right.
Bad faith is calling that the definition of hidden sex as sex hidden from the protagonist not good because all sex is hidden from others is a logical fallacy.

second I am not closeopenbrutal. so you can not say to me that I have called you a discord mod. only a bad faith argumentator which you are doing by mixing him with me.

You don't actually care about what arguments are being made only that you are right.
I am sorry but this is you leaking your intentions, there is a saying in my country "thieves judge others based on their condition" they think everyone steals because they are thieves. You think everyone cares about being right because you are the one that cares about that.

you have been doing this the whole time. you never engage with the counter arguments you only spout and reaffirm why you should be right and why people should do your bidding. you send others to make threads when you can actually make your own thread according to your metrics. you came here to what was already established and demand change when you can go out and make your own with 0 effort. in fact you have wasted more energy here than you would have wasted making your own thread and posting a link here for those interested.

for example I do not like the Hidden sex Jav's I just ignored said posts. I can browse all 34 pages of this thread for relevant info with the energy required to make this reply. so I do not see any problem with JAV's being posted despite not liking them.
 

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Edit: If you're acting like a discord mod dork, you'll be called as such. Simple as that. If you're going for that logic about "real hidden sex" where the PLAYER itself cant see what happened , not even via heroine or gallery, then mostly everything from op list should be removed. IF the majority on the op list are pure mc pov w/ no PLAYER or Heroine pov , I will make a separate thread , sure.


Ahem..anyway, hopefully, we can move on for real this time. I do apologize for derailing the thread for a bit. Aside from the stuff that was shared recently , you guys found anything new?

Btw, if some of you guys haven't played Rascou VN games yet,I recommend trying it. Though iirc , you wont find most the games here in f95.
Soraue's 5 days of separation +after ha a voice patch recently added.
 

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I gotta try that. I'm always a big fan of VAs in my games. Thanks
sadly it is not voiced more like moaned. still it is an improvement. since it adds to the inmersion.

this made me realize that this game has a ton of silhouette porn. but not so hidden. since the character is into netorase. he is pretty much aware of what is happening. but still I recomend his works. they are pleasant to read and have no grinding mechanics.

the truth is that retaking the previous arguments Sillhouette porn is not hidden sex. awareness plays a big part in the hidden sex appeal. the most important being that the main character is unaware.


Nothing in these videos would fall under hidden sex to me. even though I find them aesthetically pleasing.











But then this video followed by this video:



or this video

or this video


those to me capture the feeling of hidden sex even if examples like the first one the sex scene happens with hours of difference.
 
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second I am not closeopenbrutal. so you can not say to me that I have called you a discord mod. only a bad faith argumentator which you are doing by mixing him with me.
I am saying that despite him throwing a ton of bad faith arguments my way you said nothing but the moment I started posting sarcastically you suddenly had something to say. You don't actually care you were just looking for a way to try to prove yourself right.
 
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Nothing in these videos would fall under hidden sex to me. even though I find them aesthetically pleasing.








My guy, literally every single one of these happen behind the curtain, maybe look up at the top of the thread and read it.
 

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My guy, literally every single one of these happen behind the curtain, maybe look up at the top of the thread and read it.
You should read what I wrote. did I say they do not belong here? what did I say about it??? go back and read it. did you read the title of the thread.

here I bolded it for you.

Hidden Sex, Oblivious, Behind the Curtain NTR Game List

which of the two bolded words did I use? but ahh what am I saying I do not trust you to reach the conclusion.

"behind the curtain sex does not have to be hidden sex"

and that is why you argue with bad faith. you are not reading our posts. stop and read!

to be hidden means to means to escape the detection of another, when you have sex in the privacy of your home you are not hiding because you are not avoiding detection. you are not being looked for.

if you are watching someone fuck behind a curtain you are not trying to detect something you are enjoying the cute show. but I see again the bad argument. nothing to say about the other videos.
 

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sadly it is not voiced more like moaned. still it is an improvement. since it adds to the inmersion.
Ah darn , that sucks. But yeah, that is better than nothing.

You don't actually care you were just looking for a way to try to prove yourself right.
I could say the same to you.

Here, let me repost what I said again in case you missed it:

If you're going for that logic about "real hidden sex" where the PLAYER itself cant see what happened , not even via heroine or gallery, then mostly everything from op list should be removed. IF the majority on the op list are pure mc pov w/ no PLAYER or Heroine pov , I will make a separate thread , sure.

Pls, justify your "real hidden sex"-only posts against the games that are listed in OP's thread.
 

1eyed1

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If you're going for that logic about "real hidden sex" where the PLAYER itself cant see what happened , not even via heroine or gallery, then mostly everything from op list should be removed. IF the majority on the op list are pure mc pov w/ no PLAYER or Heroine pov , I will make a separate thread , sure.
Now who is making bad faith arguments? Who the fuck ever said anything about not being able to see anything ever? That strawman is so big it belongs on the set of the wickerman.

The point is to find things where the player has a restricted view, how much is restricted, whether or not you can see in unrestricted in some way, or how much of the game is like that has no bearing. It is about finding instances OF that since it isn't categorized literally anywhere else in any way. If we expanded to what you want then there would be 0 way of finding the things on that list outside of manually searching for them, which we already did, and made this list.
 
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Now who is making bad faith arguments? Who the fuck ever said anything about not being able to see anything ever? That strawman is so big it belongs on the set of the wickerman.

The point is to find things where the player has a restricted view, how much is restricted, whether or not you can see in unrestricted in some way, or how much of the game is like that has no bearing. It is about finding instances OF that since it isn't categorized literally anywhere else in any way. If we expanded to what you want then there would be 0 way of finding the things on that list outside of manually searching for them, which we already did, and made this list.
I have to be honest with you I think that deserves another whole tread not this one.
I have 0 interest in PoV focused hidden porn.

and that is the name of what you are talking about
not hidden, not oblivious, not behind the curtain.

PoV ( point of view)