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Fortuna ღ

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Just played the full update. The writing is barely passable, and there are still enough inconsistencies to make a whole other story. Emma's still acting like a 12-year-old... heck, my 12-year-old sister acts more mature than her. That's crazy :ROFLMAO:

I'm not even going to get into how crazy it is that she's talking to Jenny again after walking in on her with the guy that she was interested in. Maybe I'm weirder than I thought because I never had the patience for that kind of stuff lol. Side note, I wish there were more smilies available to us... I'm bloody tired of typing "lol" all the time. But it's crazy how naive Emma's written. "Here she comes. She must have felt bad after Zak used her like that. I was lucky. He planned on using me too. I could have been hurt like Jenny was. Poor Jenny. I should put it all behind me and forgive her." I mean... the only truth there is that Zak used her. But she still pursued him and invited Emma(who was the joke of the party) to that party knowing what she was going to do with Zak. How do you continue a friendship with someone like that? Her reasons were proper trash. If her mum wanted her to hang with Zak and his friends, then why did she invite Emma to the party? The reason the developer gave for her sleeping with Emma's crush was also quite maddening... but it's unfortunately not at all uncommon in those circles. It's even more frustrating how Emma forgives her like nothing ever happened. This whole game has been feeling like one great ball of frustration lately...

On a more serious note... I don't want to get into the implications of making Emma a little girl mentally, a young woman physically, and still yet... having her as a love interest. The two just don't match, no matter how much the developer tries to push it. I mean do guys really think 18-year-olds talk like her? Act like her? Behave like her? I just don't see how men can be attracted to that... but hey, this is F95. Anyway, that's enough controversial opinions for one week. I'm going on another hiatusღ
 
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Penfold Mole

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Seriously?! Shift-O... shift+o... same difference...
Yes, seriously. Letter key combinations in Ren'Py only work with lower case letters, they don't work while caps lock is on. It's why I pointed it out. So, technically, SHIFT+O isn't supposed to work while SHIFT+o should bring up the console, if dev mode is enabled.
yeesh... but no, developer mode is obviously disabled, I'll use your file (I was thinking of doing something like that anyhow actually). Thanks.
It will enable dev mode, rollback, skip and quick save and -load, in case any of them is disabled. Basically a copy of what unren adds into the "game" subfolder.
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CrazyRabbit

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Just played the full update. The writing is barely passable, and there are still enough inconsistencies to make a whole other story. Emma's still acting like a 12-year-old... heck, my 12-year-old sister acts more mature than her. That's crazy :ROFLMAO:

I'm not even going to get into how crazy it is that she's talking to Jenny again after walking in on her with the guy that she was interested in. Maybe I'm weirder than I thought because I never had the patience for that kind of stuff lol. Side note, I wish there were more smilies available to us... I'm bloody tired of typing "lol" all the time. But it's crazy how naive Emma's written. "Here she comes. She must have felt bad after Zak used her like that. I was lucky. He planned on using me too. I could have been hurt like Jenny was. Poor Jenny. I should put it all behind me and forgive her." I mean... the only truth there is that Zak used her. But she still pursued him and invited Emma(who was the joke of the party) to that party knowing what she was going to do with Zak. How do you continue a friendship with someone like that? Her reasons were proper trash. If her mum wanted her to hang with Zak and his friends, then why did she invite Emma to the party? The reason the developer gave for her sleeping with Emma's crush was also quite maddening... but it's unfortunately not at all uncommon in those circles. It's even more frustrating how Emma forgives her like nothing ever happened. This whole game has been feeling like one great ball of frustration lately...

On a more serious note... I don't want to get into the implications of making Emma a little girl mentally, a young woman physically, and still yet... having her as a love interest. The two just don't match, no matter how much the developer tries to push it. I mean do guys really think 18-year-olds talk like her? Act like her? Behave like her? I just don't see how men can be attracted to that... but hey, this is F95. Anyway, that's enough controversial opinions for one week. I'm going on another hiatus lolღ
All of this is true. And while I might be able to get behind the idea of forgiving Jenny (mostly because I don't care about Jenny), I can't picture it being done that fast. She has a lot to make amend for and her Mom pushing her does not excuse everything immediatly.

Also yes, Emma might be sheltered but she went to school like everyone else ; there's no reason for her to behave like an 8 yo...
I do like Emma, she's sweet and growing out of her naïvity ; but she never should've been this clueless about everything at 18.

It's also why I'll never be able to pursue her LI route.
She's a child, her brain is still in middle school ; only a father-daughter (or uncle-niece) relationship can be created with such a stunted mental growth. And given where I am, I have to be precise : a platonic father-daughter (or uncle-niece) relationship :D
 

Ayhsel

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All of this is true. And while I might be able to get behind the idea of forgiving Jenny (mostly because I don't care about Jenny), I can't picture it being done that fast. She has a lot to make amend for and her Mom pushing her does not excuse everything immediatly.

Also yes, Emma might be sheltered but she went to school like everyone else ; there's no reason for her to behave like an 8 yo...
I do like Emma, she's sweet and growing out of her naïvity ; but she never should've been this clueless about everything at 18.

It's also why I'll never be able to pursue her LI route.
She's a child, her brain is still in middle school ; only a father-daughter (or uncle-niece) relationship can be created with such a stunted mental growth. And given where I am, I have to be precise : a platonic father-daughter (or uncle-niece) relationship :D
Indeed, all my jokes aside, always though of Emma as NON INCEST daughter (had to clarify seems daughter means fuckable in F95).

Emma should not be a love interest.

To be fair, only Lucy right now seems reasonable... I just dont like her much, but so far was the only slightly reasonable.

FBI lady is cute
 
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BGRW2020

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I really like this story, the characters are great especially Charlotte and her sister, the plot is fine but does need to wrap up as the corruption in the industry angle has gone far enough - but the growing love affair between Charlotte and her bodyguard is good to see. Glad Zac was killed off - those people have no value to society at all - can't wait for the producer - director - the fat ass gets his too
 

CrazyRabbit

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Indeed, for all my jokes aside, always though of Emma as NON INCEST daughter (had to clarify seems daughter means fuckable in F95).
Daughter, mother, aunt, sister, cousin, niece, granddaughter twice-removed by marriage....
We'd have a easier task naming what isn't fuckable by F95 standards, I'll try :
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And that's it (then again....)

To be fair, only Lucy right now seems reasonable... I just dont like her much, but so far was the only slightly reasonable.

FBI lady is cute
Yep, Charlotte is so traumatized that she's never going to be ok in a relationship with a man ; I don't blame her but, in the future, making her suddenly ok to be with MC would be a big writing fumble unfortunately... her fears won't disappear without YEARS of therapy.
Kayla is a friend with benefit, Suzi can kiss my sugar-coated strawberry-prinkled ass, the FBI lady will never be fleshed out into a LI....

Lucy is the endgame.
 
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Dracconic Evolution

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If it has already been mentioned then please ignore. But "Image '12_16_28' not found." when going to Lucy's house and she is wanting to talk with the MC
 

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Yes, seriously. Letter key combinations in Ren'Py only work with lower case letters, they don't work while caps lock is on. It's why I pointed it out. So, technically, SHIFT+O isn't supposed to work while SHIFT+o should bring up the console, if dev mode is enabled.

It will enable dev mode, rollback, skip and quick save and -load, in case any of them is disabled. Basically a copy of what unren adds into the "game" subfolder.
You're welcome.
I was referring to pressing SHIFT plus the OH key, which does NOTHING when dev mode is disabled!
 
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BeingADikDik

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MC HAS A PENIS CONFIRMED! Get Hyped.

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Color me unimpressed. Perhaps DB only rendered half his dick to save CPU time? Don't see how this schlub with that awful tattoo, receding hairline, lack of stamina, and average manhood is going to service the entire Lloyd family. It didn't even hit Lucy's navel and she's a tiny girl ...

Oh, wait, I forgot. We only get to choose 1 girl, and to have any shot at Emma or Suzi we need to already reject both Lucy and Charlie. Hmmm, no thanks.
 
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Ahx

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Do you know what else is utterly stupid? Why MC didn't bring his gun? He knew it was a dangerous situation and he forgot the most important part of his job under a fucking pillow? Did he seriously assume that the threat could be resolved by non-lethal actions and went in unarmed? The story was a little shaky from the beginning. Now this one did it!
 

WhiteWolf619

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Do you know what else is utterly stupid? Why MC didn't bring his gun? He knew it was a dangerous situation and he forgot the most important part of his job under a fucking pillow? Did he seriously assume that the threat could be resolved by non-lethal actions and went in unarmed? The story was a little shaky from the beginning. Now this one did it!
Well i also found it a bit silly that Carter even let Emma go to begin with, his whole plan was to make them suffer, but he let her go because DB wanted to throw in a reference from commando (my thought anyway.) And i was saying to someone he should have had his gun with him and had a face off where the MC knew Emma wasn't going to come out of this alive so he had to make the decision to take a shot and end the threat immediately.
 
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yossa999

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And you know what? Carry an actual gun for fuck's sake. MC tries to attack you shoot his fucking leg
Well, maybe the Confident Carter live by the rule "Guns for show, knives for a pro". :ROFLMAO:
Do you know what else is utterly stupid? Why MC didn't bring his gun?
The Cunning Carter caught him in the heat of the moment, so he didn't have time to arm himself with a gun (I know it's a weak excuse). Who needs a gun if he can block a knife with his bare hand?

But seriously, I understand that all these absurdities were for the sake of drama. If it just could be clarified a little why is the usually calm, cool and practical detective suddenly switched into Crazy Carter mode, I dunno, for example, him or his loved ones were pressured hard for his f-up with Charlotte case or he overdid drugs or he was always been a maniac and just switched to the psycho phase. And the hostage freeing scene, there’s nothing to invent here, every second action movie has a similar scene, just take the one you like as a basis.
Let's just say this parts could be better, but it doesn't ruin the game. I would prefer MC acting like a Sheriff Hood from the Banshee series. Aimed a gun at the criminal, gave a signal to the hostage to dodge from the line of fire, shoot out the brains of the villain. :HideThePain:
 

NewTricks

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Indeed, all my jokes aside, always though of Emma as NON INCEST daughter (had to clarify seems daughter means fuckable in F95).

Emma should not be a love interest.

To be fair, only Lucy right now seems reasonable... I just dont like her much, but so far was the only slightly reasonable.

FBI lady is cute
Yeah, I have a preference for Lucy but I've always rooted for the underdog. She is everybody's least favorite love interest even in-universe. She is literally the only love interest who has been consistent when it comes to her feelings for MC and the only member of the Lloyd family who doesn't need several years of progressive mental health treatment just to function as an adult in society. She is the glue that holds everybody together. The other three are bottomless pits of things they need and she is the only one who is a giver rather than a taker. She runs Charlotte's career, mothers her daughters when she is off working or recovering from her latest assault, fights much bigger men who try to hurt her, serves as her emotional tampon, and never asks for anything for herself. In terms of personality, she is the one who is the most like MC. This might serve to work against her because while birds of a feather fly together it is opposites that attract. She might not be the best love interest but she is certainly the most deserving one. I'm glad that she finally got some of that sweet bodyguard dick in the path where the player chooses her.
 

Vasya555

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Unofficial V0.12 Charlotte’s path critical error fix
If you are on Charlotte’s path (or Charlotte + Kaylah) then due to the bug in v0.12 you’re thrown off this path as if you’re chose that MC didn’t have feelings for Charlotte earlier (and as if you choose to reject Charlotte later).
To fix it extract and replace ep12.rpy file in the Hillside\game\ folder

In v0.12.1 this bug is fixed
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The unseen

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Well, considering what we've all seen and experienced. You could see DB was exhausted and burnt out in this update and the writing of it.
the sex scenes were awful. Not that we're going to exaggerate it. It was really awful. All of the feeling Other than Lucy and Kaylah's got complicated.
I personally suggest to DB that rest or give yourself some time. Having no update for a while and getting a big one with a GOOD story and blah blah is better than 4 or 5 updates that have no progress over either story or feeling.
 
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