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TheCrimsonRevenger

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It is a VN trope that the MC's dick is so magical that it can change a girl's sexual orientation, but I've never been a fan of that one and I think that the writer can do better.
Hey don't be too quick to dismiss a trope. They become Tropes for a reason. Speaking to a truth that a vast and overwhelming majority of people can recognize, on some level or another. Exaggerated sometimes, sure...but they still resonate for a reason.

As the saying goes, every woman is Bi. You only have to figure out if it's "polar," or "sexual".

Suzi seems to be a bit of both. lol
 

NewTricks

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Hey don't be too quick to dismiss a trope. They become Tropes for a reason. Speaking to a truth that a vast and overwhelming majority of people can recognize, on some level or another. Exaggerated sometimes, sure...but they still resonate for a reason.

As the saying goes, every woman is Bi. You only have to figure out if it's "polar," or "sexual".

Suzi seems to be a bit of both. lol
I'm not against Tropes in general. Although I do get tired of some of them eventually. It really depends on how you use them. Execution is important.
 

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MAYBE he should have drawn his own gun and tried to kill the MC but then it becomes a quickdraw contest and he might not have liked his odds in that sort of fight. It also becomes an accuracy contest and cops don't spend as much time on the shooting range as you might think.
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Carter is at an extreme disadvantage trying to draw his gun. His knife is in his strong hand. Emma is in the way and occupying his "free hand". If he stabs her the MC will have his gun out long before Carter can drop his knife or clear Emma's body. Carter's wearing a heavy overcoat. There is no sign of a shoulder holster, so it's most likely that he's carrying it in a belt holster behind his hip. To draw you swipe the coat back and draw as your hand comes forward. So once Emma is out of the picture, whether released or stabbed, Carter has to toss his knife, clear the coat, draw and fire. Dropping the knife would be the MC's signal to act.
 

UncleFredo

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Despite people's strong feelings toward that scene, I find myself completely indifferent to it. Maybe it is my military background or just general pragmatism but until you are struggling for your life with someone who is trying to kill you and who has already wounded you you have no idea what you would do in that situation. Right or wrong, I have a feeling he is going to have to face some consequences for it. You don't get to kill a cop and just walk away, no matter if it was right or wrong.
Killing a cop who was acting in the performance of his/her duty is very different from killing a rampaging murderer who happens to be a cop, while defending yourself from a lethal assault. The first is felony murder, the second is self defense. What happened in the story can not and should not be equated with a simple volitional cop killing.
 
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NewTricks

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Killing a cop who was acting in the performance of his/her duty is very different from killing a rampaging murderer who happens to be a cop, while defending yourself from a lethal assault. The first is felony murder, the second is self defense. What happened in the story can not and should not be equated with a simple volitional cop killing.
I see where you are coming from, but it isn't a matter of right or wrong. It is a matter of who's the boss. Who has the power. Who does the investigation? Who collects the evidence? Who gets to decide what evidence miraculously shows up and which conveniently disappears? Moreover, who has a lot of guns, a lot of friends, a lot of time, and are all indoctrinated into a culture of corruption where it is us against everybody else. You don't get to kill a cop and walk away. Get it?
 

Ottoeight

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I see where you are coming from, but it isn't a matter of right or wrong. It is a matter of who's the boss. Who has the power. Who does the investigation? Who collects the evidence? Who gets to decide what evidence miraculously shows up and which conveniently disappears? Moreover, who has a lot of guns, a lot of friends, a lot of time, and are all indoctrinated into a culture of corruption where it is us against everybody else. You don't get to kill a cop and walk away. Get it?
That's why the last lines in this chapter are granted to Charlotte wondering what's going to happen. I don't think she tells these words because she's shocked by the fact that MC killed a man - I think she's considering the consequences of this act.

Charlotte is asking herself: what's going to happen now that MC just killed a cop. We're wondering too.
 
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UncleFredo

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I see where you are coming from, but it isn't a matter of right or wrong. It is a matter of who's the boss. Who has the power. Who does the investigation? Who collects the evidence? Who gets to decide what evidence miraculously shows up and which conveniently disappears? Moreover, who has a lot of guns, a lot of friends, a lot of time, and are all indoctrinated into a culture of corruption where it is us against everybody else. You don't get to kill a cop and walk away. Get it?
Were it you or I we'd certainly be put through the wringer. However, Charlotte Lloyd is not you nor I. She's the top model on the planet. If you look at the women who achieve that, they are uniformly worth hundreds of millions of dollars. She commands a massive media presence. The strength of legal representation that she can bring to the defense of the man that saved her and her daughter lives, from Zak Prince's killer, is beyond anything you or I can imagine. That legal representation by definition will be connected to the local and national power structure. All facets of law enforcement know this. The scrutiny over the investigation, evidence, witnesses, etc will be intensive. The lawyer(s) handling the case will be on a first name basis with the DA. The investigators employed by those lawyer(s) will have personal relationships with the investigating law officers. However unofficially or casually, they will be able to get "inside" how law enforcement is handling the case. Breaches in procedure will be known to the defense team as they happen, so they won't happen.

Plus this mess stinks. Carter was a murdering psychopath, who killed Zak, kidnapped Emma, held her at knife point (assault with a deadly weapon), assaulted the MC and attempted to murder him. Not every cop in Hillside is corrupt. Not every lawyer in the district attorney's office is corrupt. Emma is an innocent 18 year old girl, some members of law enforcement are going to have a difficult time with an attempt to rail road the man who saved her and her mother. Even the corrupt cops and officials can be influenced to "do the right thing" if there's a seven figure retirement plan in the end. Plus media coverage will make the OJ trial look like a park opening.

So your reasoning would apply to you or to me, but not in this case. In this case it's self defense, and in the real world it never gets to trial. Charlotte's lawyer(s) agree not to sue the city, and it ends with a conversation between the DA, the head detective, and the MC's lawyer who agree to dismiss any charges with prejudice and permanently close the case. Get it?
 

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You're absolutely right with everything you wrote, but you're asking for way too much=) I don't think there'll be any consequences at all... The story will just simply move on
I'd like to think so, however I feel the FBI agent intro in this release will have something to do with it, she was also at the hot dog stand when Carter and the MC met.

The fact that Emma was last seen with or Zak's friends know he went out with the night he was gutted, may also play into it ?
 

NewTricks

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Were it you or I we'd certainly be put through the wringer. However, Charlotte Lloyd is not you nor I. She's the top model on the planet. If you look at the women who achieve that, they are uniformly worth hundreds of millions of dollars. She commands a massive media presence. The strength of legal representation that she can bring to the defense of the man that saved her and her daughter lives, from Zak Prince's killer, is beyond anything you or I can imagine. That legal representation by definition will be connected to the local and national power structure. All facets of law enforcement know this. The scrutiny over the investigation, evidence, witnesses, etc will be intensive. The lawyer(s) handling the case will be on a first name basis with the DA. The investigators employed by those lawyer(s) will have personal relationships with the investigating law officers. However unofficially or casually, they will be able to get "inside" how law enforcement is handling the case. Breaches in procedure will be known to the defense team as they happen, so they won't happen.

Plus this mess stinks. Carter was a murdering psychopath, who killed Zak, kidnapped Emma, held her at knife point (assault with a deadly weapon), assaulted the MC and attempted to murder him. Not every cop in Hillside is corrupt. Not every lawyer in the district attorney's office is corrupt. Emma is an innocent 18 year old girl, some members of law enforcement are going to have a difficult time with an attempt to rail road the man who saved her and her mother. Even the corrupt cops and officials can be influenced to "do the right thing" if there's a seven figure retirement plan in the end. Plus media coverage will make the OJ trial look like a park opening.

So your reasoning would apply to you or to me, but not in this case. In this case it's self defense, and in the real world it never gets to trial. Charlotte's lawyer(s) agree not to sue the city, and it ends with a conversation between the DA, the head detective, and the MC's lawyer who agree to dismiss any charges with prejudice and permanently close the case. Get it?
A very elaborate explanation, negated by an itchy trigger finger and a police union lawyer. Or a corpse thrown in the reservoir in the middle of the night. Or a busted tail light on a random car stop that turns into a probable cause search that "discovers" a murder weapon. Cops are a gang. The biggest, baddest gang in the city. Money and fame might shield the wealthy, but it doesn't do shit for the help.
 

UncleFredo

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A very elaborate explanation, negated by an itchy trigger finger and a police union lawyer. Or a corpse thrown in the reservoir in the middle of the night. Or a busted tail light on a random car stop that turns into a probable cause search that "discovers" a murder weapon. Cops are a gang. The biggest, baddest gang in the city. Money and fame might shield the wealthy, but it doesn't do shit for the help.
Whether wealth and fame does shit for the "help" in this case is solely up to Charlotte. If you think she's going to throw the MC to the wolves in this case, you see her in a very different light than I do. Sure anyone can be assassinated, but where is the win for the cops killing the MC in this case? As for constructing a fake murder charge, as long as Charlotte stands by the MC, that kind of "police work" faces the same level of difficulty as tampering with the current facts. Time, place, motive, and opportunity all have to match. Finding a random piece of potentially incriminating evidence won't be enough.

Hillside cops may well be a gang. We know there is a lot of corruption in the system. But, unlike other gangs, the cops operate "under the color of the law". That is their greatest strength, but it also restricts some of their freedom of action. The MC didn't challenge the gang. He's not "taking on the cops". He killed a rogue cop in self defense. If Charlotte's wealth and fame are sufficient to prevent the system from screwing over the MC, there is no reason nor benefit for the cops to go further. The corruption in Hillside flies below the radar. Overt actions put that cover at risk. Carter's not worth it to anyone. At least no one we've seen to date.
 

Ottoeight

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Were it you or I we'd certainly be put through the wringer. However, Charlotte Lloyd is not you nor I. She's the top model on the planet. If you look at the women who achieve that, they are uniformly worth hundreds of millions of dollars. She commands a massive media presence.
You'd be right, BUT Hillside is not the real world.

In the World Darkblue is depicting us a fucking asshole has just ordered to murder "the top model on the planet" without even blinking. The most important top models are mincemeat for millionaires in this world.
 
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UncleFredo

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You'd be right, BUT Hillside is not the real world.

In the World Darkblue is depicting us a fucking asshole has just ordered to murder "the top model on the planet" without even blinking. The most important top models are mincemeat for millionaires in this world.
We know that Charlotte is wealthy. We're told that early in the story. Emma's former best friend's parents are both movie stars who are even richer than Charlotte, but her wealth compares to theirs. So without question, in the world of Hillside, Charlotte is wealthy. We don't know the exact magnitude of her wealth, but more than enough to deploy the resources needed to defend the MC.

A studio head or mover and shaker in that world's entertainment industry, can get angry, lose his shit, and order Charlotte's death. Achieving that goal is quite a different matter. He's a wealthy psychopath. Biggest danger to Charlotte is her unwillingness to face the reality of the threats around her. Perhaps the MC will help illuminate them for her.
 

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I don't even care if we get to see lewd scenes anymore.
I just want to see the MC beat these mofos to a pulp.
step on line. suzi will join and maybe charl will give few kicks with her stilettos.
 

Smarmint

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Damn played for a full hour to get zero sex scenes, like is the dev trying to make this a non-erotic game or something
Hillside is the slowest of slow burns. I love it myself, but if you are looking for much action, I would wait until the game is completed and see if you like it then. There are many sex-fest games around here to choose from. Hillside is pretty much like Single Again, and the unfortunately ended Lexi where the MC spends most of the game building relationships with the characters.
 
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BeingADikDik

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Hillside is the slowest of slow burns. I love it myself, but if you are looking for much action, I would wait until the game is completed and see if you like it then. There are many sex-fest games around here to choose from. Hillside is pretty much like Single Again, and the unfortunately ended Lexi where the MC spends most of the game building relationships with the characters.
It's not so much that there isn't an all-out sex scene for the protagonist, but that there are so very few moments of physical intimacy. Lucy is the only one to (optionally) show any real progress here. Kaylah is teased but nothing substantial. Everyone else remains aloof or seemingly not on a lewd path at all.
 
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I think in the next update there will be a lot of progress in the story, thanks to the avalanche this update set in motion. No more fangirling about that douchebag, finally. (and slowly but surely we get a bit closer to show Suzy hard anal sex. :devilish:)
 

NewTricks

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I think in the next update there will be a lot of progress in the story, thanks to the avalanche this update set in motion. No more fangirling about that douchebag, finally. (and slowly but surely we get a bit closer to show Suzy hard anal sex. :devilish:)
I kind of have the feeling that this event is significant enough to send the game spinning in a whole other direction. Not only is the MC bound to be unable to continue protecting the family because he is likely going to be spending some quality time in handcuffs, but there isn't going to be any way to continue to pretend that they aren't all in danger, in deep shit, and completely fucked all at once. The basic plot setup (MC is getting close to the family as they struggle against him to go about their normal day while he surreptitiously keeps an eye out for a lone stalker) is completely shattered and was built on a lie in the first place. So some other plot is going to take its place. My thought is that it might be a bit of a legal thriller for a spell. The MC may ultimately be exonerated, but he will probably be arrested and may be remanded to custody for some time. In the tender care of crooked cops, he may be the recipient of some not-so-subtle attempts at intimidation and abuse. In short, it may be a pretty rough update. In addition, the girls will have to interrogate their relationship with the MC in terms of him suddenly and unexpectedly becoming a negative space in their life and their ensuing vulnerability because of it. All of this might not serve to result in sex scenes with hard anal unless the prison scenes go horribly awry, but I do think that there is a possibility to push all the relationships forward in a dramatic fashion.

Or there could be some Deux Ex Machina like people have suggested involving the FBI, and MC could just go back to hanging out with the girls at the pool, but that wouldn't be nearly as interesting or packed with narrative potential in my opinion.
 
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