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MC killed the stalker
Charlotte every time she thinks about it: "MC killed a cop" and not "MC saved Emma"

Really, bitch? really?
I understand what you feel, but is a cop we are talking about, you see how hes cop friend reacted? MC was lucky the FBI was there, BUT PEOPLE FEAR THE POLICE, they don't feel safe with them AND she is a woman, very few women will really kill someone even if is for protection.
 

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Phew, finished it. And it was mostly painful, so let's do a case by case.

Lucy : Nothing to say, Lucy is the GOAT. She's going to hurt her back, carrying her entire family since 0.1. I'm actually considering of redoing the game but saying yes to Lucy this time. Clearly, she's the best girl around here.

Emma : She's losing quite a bit of her naïvity ; still has a lot but she's improving. And she's pushing her mom to be treated like an adult and she takes it all in stride. Quite proud of her. Her talk with MC are good, he's telling her things that no one else told her and helping her grow.

*That's it for the good, let's go for the elephant*

Charlotte : *heavy sigh* We spent the entire 0.12 going back to where we were at 0.11.... She actually needs Lucy, Emma AND Agent Fox to think and "forgive" MC for saving her daughter... While she did came around and back to talking to MC, that's actually a pretty big red flag for any kind of relationship MC could try to have with her. We can't always wait for her to have her sister and everyone around talking some damn much needed sense into her every time there's a hurdle (and given the nature of Hillside, that'll be big hurdles and often).
I understand where she comes from, how hard it is for her to trust a man, how rocky it was with MC at first, etc.... But if we're going to have that kind of problem (and of that magnitude) even when MC's doing something good (like killing a threat), it's hopeless to even try... We'll see in next update but I'm not even sure I want MC to be an item with her now...

Suzi : The usual "scream first, don't even ask questions later" with a side helping of "storming off before anyone can say a word". Suzi is even more unevolving than Charlotte, she'd be a disaster in a relationship. Let's forget about her and move on.

Sad little voice of reason : But that's because she's attracted to MC but actually she doesn't know...
.... Tough. So let's pat her on the back and THEN forget about her and move on
At first I thought this said "put her on her back" I would much prefer that option
 

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I understand what you feel, but is a cop we are talking about, you see how hes cop friend reacted? MC was lucky the FBI was there, BUT PEOPLE FEAR THE POLICE, they don't feel safe with them AND she is a woman, very few women will really kill someone even if is for protection.
Sure, I got that part... but since the beginning of the update she treated mc as a killer and not a "hero" and she never thought "he killed a cop to protect Emma"
And this whole situation made her return to think in mc as she thought in last versions...
That kills me...
 
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Sure, I got that part... but since the beginning of the update she treated mc as a killer and not a "hero" and she never thought "he killed a cop to protect Emma"
And this whole situation made her return to think in mc as she thought in last versions...
That kills me...
I'm with you. When I was reading that ABSURD reaction of hers, I could only think that I hope there's a scene where someone smacks her and tells her to smarten the fuck up! Her reaction was NOT NORMAL, it was ridiculous! I loved the story, but that part was a constant annoyance. NO MOTHER would react that way! None. I don't give a shit what twisted reasoning people use.

What redemed this chapter the most with me was how the MC cared so much and his interaction with Emma. And I loved how he killed that twisted fucker. :)
 

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Yes, there is a bug in v0.12. To fix it if you are on Charlotte's path open console (SHIFT+O) at the beginning of v0.12 and enter mom_choice_04 = 1 This will add more dialogues, images and one choice.
 
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Yes, there is a bug in v0.12. To fix it if you are on Charlotte's path open console (SHIFT+O) at the beginning of v0.12 and enter mom_choice_04 = 1 This will add more dialogues, images and one choice.
Thanks, I may have to try that as I don't recall ANY choices. Loved it anyhow but...

Edit: Shift-O doesn't work.
 
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DarhkBlu

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Approximately four hours
Excuse me what now,With people saying this is a slow burn I was expecting atleast triple the play time but this is just like what,Thats what approx. 20 minutes per update or you yourself just might be a fast reader but I just can't bring myself to give it a go and find out.
 

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I'm with you. When I was reading that ABSURD reaction of hers, I could only think that I hope there's a scene where someone smacks her and tells her to smarten the fuck up! Her reaction was NOT NORMAL, it was ridiculous! I loved the story, but that part was a constant annoyance. NO MOTHER would react that way! None. I don't give a shit what twisted reasoning people use.

What redemed this chapter the most with me was how the MC cared so much and his interaction with Emma. And I loved how he killed that twisted fucker. :)
A few more notes. I went back and replayed those scenes leading up to him killing the phsyco-cop.... and it wasn't as if he didn't warn the cop to stop... here...

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And then there's the fact that this crooked cop probably killed Emma, the first Emma he fell in love with and then covered it up...
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So... his actions were justified and Charlotte's response made ZERO sense... if the MC didn't kill him, I would have reprogrammed the game so he did! LOL ;)
(Note: I have a really strong aversion to anyone who abuses women, I get pretty pissed as well, heheh)
 

herreraaa

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I didnt saw the difference in the story if you use the code "mom_choice_04 = 1".... at least not until Agent Fox appeared in the precinct
 

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Sorry that the Android version does not work. Ren'py reports that it builds okay.
I can't give an ETA for a fixed version until I find the problem, but hopefully I can get it done tomorrow.

Thanks,
DB

UPDATE: Seems that Ren'py will not create files > 2GB and Hillside crossed over that limit with this update.
I will try compressing the files tomorrow to reduce the size and see if that works
 

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A few more notes. I went back and replayed those scenes leading up to him killing the phsyco-cop.... and it wasn't as if he didn't warn the cop to stop... here...

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And then there's the fact that this crooked cop probably killed Emma, the first Emma he fell in love with and then covered it up...
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So... his actions were justified and Charlotte's response made ZERO sense... if the MC didn't kill him, I would have reprogrammed the game so he did! LOL ;)
(Note: I have a really strong aversion to anyone who abuses women, I get pretty pissed as well, heheh)
On the Lucy route just before you have sex Lucy will ask you who you really want.
If you pick Lucy then you will not get he 2nd choice later in the game regarding Charlotte.
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And while it would be traumatizing to witness, there is no way in hell she would distrust him when he just prevented her daughter from being killed... just no way. I think the dev is over analyzing it or something.

Think about it, he has her little girl... he's about to kill her or do serious harm... the body guard you hired to protect her, jumps in, does his job and saves her life, you're little girl is safe from harm and your first thoughts are... "he killed a man, I don't trust him!"?! That's insane and makes no sense. If anything she would run into his arms, in tears hugging him and thanking him along with being SO RELIEVED she hired him in the first place.
You seem to argue as if Charlotte continued to distrust MC. That did not happen. Charlotte's distrust was only the initial reaction, and she later changed her mind once Lucy knocked some sense to her. You're trying to force Charlotte to behave the same way as what you would've done had you been in that situation while ignoring her character.

1. She doesn't trust men in general due to her past trauma.
2. She's a civilian where it isn't common to see someone killing another person.
3. Emma was safe at that point because the bad guy had been beaten. Therefore, the killing was initially thought as excessive.
4. She doesn't know/think about the corruption of the police force.
5. She wasn't thinking straight until Lucy's talk.

To be honest, I find it a little worrying how easily you'd go with it's ok to kill the guy who didn't manage to kill the hostage and already beaten. But that's just me. Maybe you're more used to violence than me.
 

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A few more notes. I went back and replayed those scenes leading up to him killing the phsyco-cop.... and it wasn't as if he didn't warn the cop to stop... here...

View attachment 2140953

And then there's the fact that this crooked cop probably killed Emma, the first Emma he fell in love with and then covered it up...
View attachment 2140958

So... his actions were justified and Charlotte's response made ZERO sense... if the MC didn't kill him, I would have reprogrammed the game so he did! LOL ;)
(Note: I have a really strong aversion to anyone who abuses women, I get pretty pissed as well, heheh)
Think what he should have added in this scene was when MC had Carter pinned, Carter starts laughing and says something like you think i will go to jail, i will be out in minutes and then i will keep coming for you, cause you can't stop me, and when i get my hands on that bitch i am going to carve up that pretty face of hers while you watch then when i get to Emma oh the things i will do to her. Making Charlotte realize how evil this man is and how corrupt the system is and that he is right that he won't go to jail, also giving the MC the reason to end his life.
 

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5. She wasn't thinking straight until Lucy's talk.
Sorry for interfering but that's the only explanation for her behavior and it's pretty weak imho. It's like as if all the memes of Charlotte never trusting MC again that were posted in this thread after the ch11 are now released in the recent chapter. It's too hard to belive that she is so much traumatised that she can't do a simple reasoning. Right before her eyes is the immediate and imminent vital danger to the most important person in her life (not to mention that the guy is swearing to chop Charlotte herself into pieces). There is MC who was wounded but eliminated that danger permanently, so she herself and her daughter's life is no longer in that danger now or in the future. The only conclusion of this facts: MC himself is the dangerous bloody murderer who should be avoided. Did she really need Lucy to explain to her that the permanent danger to her daughter's life is a bad thing, but the fact that this danger was eliminated is a good thing, and that MC did the right hing and saved her and Emma's lives?
 
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