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Make sure you include a spare change of sheets and a way to dispose of the old ones for Joshy92 . Don't need Suzi finding any traces of blood from their first time just incase :)
That's what the rose petals are for. They can pile them on top of the bloodstains so they will blend in.
 

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I have thought of Emma's first time a few times lately and I'm looking forward to seeing how DarkBlue Handles it.
We know Emma is a virgin and I really want her first time to be good.
MC will be sure to tell that to Steve.

MC wants the best for Emma while he is looking through the window. :p
 
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you guys all seem to hate harem, but it kinda makes sense that you could make it with all 4 as they seem like they would all have reasons for keeping you a secret from each other.

yes you would be a cheating bastard but it seems at the very least plausible in this scenario.
 

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you guys all seem to hate harem, but it kinda makes sense that you could make it with all 4 as they seem like they would all have reasons for keeping you a secret from each other.

yes you would be a cheating bastard but it seems at the very least plausible in this scenario.
We don't hate harem. There are harem games that you play for the harem, then there are games you play for monogamy. This is one of those.

Cheating on any of these girls would be a total dick move as none of them trust men completely. Not to mention it would be impossible anyway. They all talk about MC to each other.

Plus - fucking 4 women and keeping it secret from each of them is NOT a harem in any sense of the word, it's just a fuckboi path.
 

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you guys all seem to hate harem, but it kinda makes sense that you could make it with all 4 as they seem like they would all have reasons for keeping you a secret from each other.

yes you would be a cheating bastard but it seems at the very least plausible in this scenario.
I wouldn't say that be considered a harem id call that being a manwhore / cheating son of a bitch. Which could be argued to be out of character for the MC. Now if the MC was Steve than maybe that would be in character. I think a true harem all the girls would have to be in the know. Not to mention how in the fuck are going to keep that a secret makes zero sense. The only one id argue you could keep it a secret at least for a little while would be Lucy or Suzi but eventually the others will catch on. Then the moment one of them catches the MC cheating it would be game over. The MC would have to move out probably get fired and Charlotte probably would end up dead as the MC wouldn't be there to protect her. So yeah even a manwhore playstyle would make zero sense.
 

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given that pretty much every guy in the game is a rapist or violent or a manipulative psychopath it actually would fit the story quite well if the MC was at the very least a manwhore.
hard disagree , as far as I can recall. Steve mentioned how the MC has been alone since Emma ( the model) died. So given he been depressed and lonely makes even less sense to me for him to go into manwhore mode all of a sudden. Especially because he is shown to be a kind and respectable guy not every male needs to be a psychopath or manwhore in this game.
 

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hard disagree , as far as I can recall. Steve mentioned how the MC has been alone since Emma ( the model) died. So given he been depressed and lonely makes even less sense to me for him to go into manwhore mode all of a sudden. Especially because he is shown to be a kind and respectable guy not every male needs to be a psychopath or manwhore in this game.
And being the almost opposite of a manwhore (especially if on Charlotte or Emma path), makes a great juxtaposition that allows the story to be so outstanding and why we are all so invested.
 
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given that pretty much every guy in the game is a rapist or violent or a manipulative psychopath it actually would fit the story quite well if the MC was at the very least a manwhore.
I don’t see how it’d fit the story at all. The MC’s job depends on the women trusting him, and if he’s merrily sticking his cock into every open hole he finds, they can’t trust him. They’re always gonna suspect that’s his motive: save the girl from the bad guys, but so he can fuck her instead of them.

Of course, considering the nature of most AVNs, it’s almost always gonna be the player’s motive. But there are other AVNs. You wanna be a manwhore, go play them.
 
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I don’t see how it’d fit the story at all. The MC’s job depends on the women trusting him, and if he’s merrily sticking his cock into every open hole he finds, they can’t trust him. They’re always gonna suspect that’s his motive: save the girl from the bad guys, but so he can fuck her instead of them.

Of course, considering the nature of most AVNs, it’s almost always gonna be the player’s motive. But there are other AVNs. You wanna be a manwhore, go play them.
There really is no trust for men by any of the 4. MC cannot even give the hint of being a manwhore for it all to crumble. We've already seen a couple of misunderstandings, that were almost a disaster.

Charlotte has been sexually abused and objectified by men her entire life and the one man she trusted pissed off and left her.
Every man Lucy has ever fallen for, has liked her sister better. (Except for some people here).
Suzi is a total psycho (Jokes), but she doesn't like men. Not explained exactly why yet, but she would have seen how her mother was treated, and then got blackmailed for sex by a douche.
And Emma has never had a male role model, she was petrified when she was going to be alone with MC at the start.

One of the turning points in Charlotte's trust was when Kaylah told her that she had hit on MC and he turned her down. (I didn't of course, but I went back and continued on the turning down path).
 

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I don’t see how it’d fit the story at all. The MC’s job depends on the women trusting him, and if he’s merrily sticking his cock into every open hole he finds, they can’t trust him. They’re always gonna suspect that’s his motive: save the girl from the bad guys, but so he can fuck her instead of them.

Of course, considering the nature of most AVNs, it’s almost always gonna be the player’s motive. But there are other AVNs. You wanna be a manwhore, go play them.
But he won't find that in this game.

This game is different from all other VN's in many ways.
 

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One of the turning points in Charlotte's trust was when Kaylah told her that she had hit on MC and he turned her down. (I didn't of course, but I went back and continued on the turning down path).
I actually have 2 saves one that im completely faithful with Charlotte and one where I have fun with Kaylah lol pointless but idc anytime I replay this game I have to at least play a Charlotte path fresh while playing whatever other path I want at the time. I like her to much that it's honestly hard not to play her path if I replay this game
 

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well, I definitely wouldn't call her retarded, but she is not the brightest person for sure, and it is not only about Zach stuff, but in gemeral.
I know I am probably gonna start a mess here, but..

you said smth about sheltering, this gives my some vibes of Rapunzel story, Rapunzel was locked in a tower for her whole life and yet she had some common knowledge/sense, yes she was naive, but not that naive. Was Emma locked the whole her life? - NO, she went to school/college, had few friends (at least from what I remember, I played it long ago) and yet while looking pretty mature, mentally she is probably on a level of 12th year kid most of the times, yeah, she has her moments here and there, but only on a very rare occasions, and that's why I don't consider her as a LI in this game, cause it feels like I am gonna corrupt and take advantage of a child, which makes me feel uncomfortable. maybe it will change in future, who knows.

I remember your discussion in Little Regina thread, and I can tell you that even though Jessie looks like a Loli, she is way more mature/wiser than Emma. But that's only my humble opinion.

anyways, forgive me, Emma fans :rolleyes:
on the other hand - less competition for you;)
Yeah Emma isn't for me either not even sure if i'll ever play her path maybe one day for curiosity but I wont enjoy it. I cant romance LI that act too childish like Emma or looks like one (loli's) makes me to damn uncomfortable. Just felt like her being called stupid over the Zach stuff a bit over the top when there are very valid reasons there. But I agree she isn't all that bright either
 

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Yeah Emma isn't for me either not even sure if i'll ever play her path maybe one day for curiosity but I wont enjoy it. I cant romance LI that act too childish like Emma or looks like one (loli's) makes me to damn uncomfortable. Just felt like her being called stupid over the Zach stuff a bit over the top when there are very valid reasons there. But I agree she isn't all that bright either
I've never looked at her like an LI (yes, I do realize she is one), and I doubt I will ever play her romance path. I've only ever seen her as a child that I want to protect, like a daughter. So for me (and I know everyone is different), she fits perfectly, and I was really excited when she called MC dad. I know others want to play Emma romance and that's fine, if everyone liked the same thing AVNs would be very boring.

I think a lot of people look at this game and think, awesome I get to fuck a supermodel. And get frustrated when they find that this fits a very particular niche. If you're not playing for a story, you are NOT going to like it. I love fuckfest games too, harem games, but I really enjoy variety. I even like some games where your sister/mother is not romanceable or MC father is still alive (if you can believe that). I really don't want to play the same game over and over again, with different devs and characters, so I think there is a place for games like this and based on this thread lots of other people do too.

What I don't get is, if you don't like it, you complain or deliberately make comments to piss people off. Just move on and find something you do. I have almost 3000 games on my ignore list, and never once have I made single negative comment on the thread. To me, that's just a waste of time. I click ignore and check something else out.

I'll hop off my soapbox now.
 
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