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Shyguy1369

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Just checked this out and really enjoyed it. I love the idea of being the protector, I really understand how the MC feels about those that have hurt the girls. I am not sure how to proceed at the moment, vis-à-vis relationships, but will see how things go. I am already anticipating the next update.
 
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TheCrimsonRevenger

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Will you be able to control your sexual desire and preserve your hard-earned professional reputation?
I'm assuming this is an ironic question, because 7 updates in I most decidedly have no choice in the matter thus far. :confused:

Ironically, despite that i'm not complaining but am a bit disappointed that there's so many good romanceable NPCs and the game is most certainly NOT going to offer any sort of Harem option if the current tone of writing and character building is any indication. So whoever I do ultimately pick, I am gonna feel guilty for not picking the others. Choose Lucy, and Charlotte loses the first guy she's been even slightly warming up to in decades. Pick Charlotte and I get the sense it's the lost straw Lucy can bear without being crushed over once again losing out to Charlotte.

And at this point i'm not remotely convinced Emma will even be an option the way the relationship with her and MC is being currently guided. But if so, picking her crushes the other two in the same ways. Simultaneously. Also, they might sic Child Protective Services on the MC and despite Emma's age it may be entirely justified.

So yeah. Choosing is gonna be tough. Assuming the idea that we'll get to pick isn't as ironic as the question of whether or not we'll keep to our professional ethics. :cautious:
 

HansDampf788

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Choose Lucy, and Charlotte loses the first guy she's been even slightly warming up to in decades. Pick Charlotte and I get the sense it's the lost straw Lucy can bear without being crushed over once again losing out to Charlotte.
That's exactly how I see it too. I think Emma and Suzie will be ok if they are not together with the MC at the end and maybe even Charlotte but her reaction to Kaylah kissing the MC was an indication that she wants the MC for herself. For Lucy, it will be a problem when you look at her history with men only being with her to get closer to Charlotte if she again loses the man she loves to her sister.
 
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j4yj4m

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Hm, considering the last two posts, wouldn't it be ironic if it turns out that choosing any woman over professionalism would lead to a bad end?
I mean, technically there's already Kaylah to cover the professional "no relationship with clients" part - though I've no idea how much content she's supposed to get. Right now it's too early to draw any firm conclusions anyway.
 
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I am sure that most men in the world consider themselves a gift to womankind but just to assuage your guilt over not choosing a fictional woman made out of bits and bytes, let me assure you the MC is not. Don't get me wrong, the MC is a decent person but to seriously believe the women he doesn't choose will be devastated would be narcissism of the highest order.

Charlotte has spent the majority of her life without a man in her life. She will be perfectly fine on her own. For that matter, if you don't choose her she might have her perception of men as sex-crazed beasts shaken and actually go for a date of her own and find someone.

Lucy has been perfectly happy with the casual sex she's been getting until now. If you refuse to kiss her she may be downcast for a while but she'll take it in her stride.

Suzi and Emma both have time on their hands. If you reject their advances or (more likely) don't lead them on they wil find themselves a boyfriend (or girlfriend (IDK)) of the same generation as themselves.

So, go ahead choose 'the one' for your game or 'the one' for each playthrough. This game/story does not fit the harem mould.
 

Ayhsel

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But...but..but...Kaylah will not survive this game until the End....becuase of "reasons". :cry:
Wait... what? Unless she is the one hurting Emma, I don't see any "reasons" for her to die...

If you know something please put that as spoilers, or if I miss something that was obvious but not spoilers, please let me know as I tend to never realize anything that is going on until is too late. Last time I was eating this very tasty bat soup in China, late 2019, and a few months later we all ended up in quarantine.. never understood what happened.
 

TheCrimsonRevenger

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Lucy is very clearly NOT perfectly happy with casual sex. It's her coping mechanism for the endless parade of shitty men who've exploited her throughout her entire life just to get to her sister, whom she clearly has a massive inferiority complex towards.

MASSIVE.

It's not even about the MC himself per se. It's about the first man she's opened up to....been honest with....been vulnerable with....treated like more than just another dick-shaped coping mechanism....doing exactly what every other man in her life did to her, if the MC were to choose to pursue Charlotte over her.

If you think that's not absolutely soul-crushing, nothing I say is gonna convince you. Hell, I think she'd actually have an easier time coping with it if the MC chose Emma or Kaylah anyone else over her BUT Charlotte. Losing yet another man to Charlotte would break her.

Then there's Charlotte. Charlotte's a full blown diagnosable misandrist. To an extreme degree. I gotta suspect that losing out on the first man she's shown even a hint of basic human empathy toward leaves her in a bit of a lurch to put it mildly. Especially since the only way for the MC to get with Lucy is to explicitly have violated Charlotte's instructions that Lucy stay away from him. Them being together is betrayal of her trust and maybe even jeopardizes Emma. I don't see any form of psychological catharsis emerging from those revelations, personally. That just reinforces all the dark stereotypes of men Charlotte already believes in her core.

So yeah...there's no Harem solution on the horizon here, clearly. And there's no choice that doesn't badly hurt another character.

Well...except for the MC to make through to the end of the story perfectly celibate....that would be an M. Knight Shyamalan-level ironic twist for an F95 game.
 

Chronos169

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Ayhsel i have to quote myself from a few month back. And this is only some "what could happen" in my mind.


Since the last update i am struggling with myself if i should post my last theory.


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Pls don't kill me folks....:(

P.S.

If i have nailed a few things....Dark Blue you are a genious and Hillside is for me from the story in the same league like "Depraved Awakening" and near "City of Broken Dreamers".
Keep up the work also in the future.
 

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Lucy has been perfectly happy with the casual sex she's been getting until now.
I think Lucy's issues are far more serious than your description suggests. Her feelings toward Charlotte are very unhealthy and vindictive. For example, she laughs at the thought that MC will be the first guy in years to get Charlotte in bed while her sister is passed-out drunk. She then teases MC with the idea that he should help undress her comatose sister, plus she deliberately draws his attention to her body (legs, dress) as he is carrying her – and just a reminder here, this is a woman who has experienced multiple extreme traumas of sexual violence, including one where she was molested while drugged unconscious, which mirrors her current situation exactly. Lucy justifies this later to Charlotte with the idea that she was only testing MC, but we in the audience know this is just another lie, since immediately after the fact Lucy ridicules and emasculates MC for his honourable behaviour, and then she openly admits to hating her sister and confesses to a long laundry list of deliberate actions taken just to hurt her sister and those around her.

Charlotte has spent the majority of her life without a man in her life. She will be perfectly fine on her own.
Charlotte is just as unsound of mind as her sister, though her particular self-destruction takes on a different character with her alcoholism, self-isolation, obsession with her career and work, complete dehumanization and contempt for men, and extreme overprotectiveness/infantilisation of her daughter. She lives her daily life outside of her protective domestic bubble in a constant state of fear and hypervigilance, and even though she is amused by her daughter's "crushes" and emerging feelings for boys, it is almost a guarantee that the prospect and reality of her daughter actually dating a man would drive her into a paroxysm of self-medication and addiction. Once her fantasy world is punctured by reality, she will be quickly overwhelmed I expect.

The concern is: who is anyone to say that Charlotte isn't right? I'm serious. Her warnings to Kaylah came true almost within hours of their talk, and as I spoke about in my initial thoughts and reactions, this victim-filled world leaves the story with an obstacle so pervasive that it threatens to trap and close the narrative in on itself to an unfortunate degree. I have my own ideas about how it could be resolved, but the developer could have other ways to move things forward, or maybe it won't be dealt with at all (which would be unfortunate). I'm just going to wait and see what happens, and maybe I'll like it, or maybe I won't.
 

Havik79

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Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, I present to you exhibit A and B for the reason for #TeamEmmaalltheway.
 
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TheCrimsonRevenger

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Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, I present to you exhibit A and B for the reason for #TeamEmmaalltheway.
I'm an Emma fan too but the relationship to the MC seems to be mostly father/daughter thus far. She's gotten a few tingles sure. And it could certainly evolve to something more intimate from where it is.

But this brings us back to the points I was raising earlier. I THINK Lucy would still be pretty hurt, but not nearly as bad if the MC dumped her for Charlotte.

On the other hand, Charlotte would go absolutely nuclear. Even if she herself had no interest in the MC, she'd see it as her having brought a sexual predator into her house and exposed her innocent little Emma to his wicked manipulations. And she probably wouldn't be all that far off the mark.
 

HansDampf788

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I'm an Emma fan too but the relationship to the MC seems to be mostly father/daughter thus far. She's gotten a few tingles sure. And it could certainly evolve to something more intimate from where it is.

But this brings us back to the points I was raising earlier. I THINK Lucy would still be pretty hurt, but not nearly as bad if the MC dumped her for Charlotte.

On the other hand, Charlotte would go absolutely nuclear. Even if she herself had no interest in the MC, she'd see it as her having brought a sexual predator into her house and exposed her innocent little Emma to his wicked manipulations. And she probably wouldn't be all that far off the mark.
Drama like this with what happens with the other girls is why I normally hate games where I have to choose who to romance.
 

Ayhsel

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On the other hand, Charlotte would go absolutely nuclear. Even if she herself had no interest in the MC, she'd see it as her having brought a sexual predator into her house and exposed her innocent little Emma to his wicked manipulations. And she probably wouldn't be all that far off the mark.
We have no idea how the relationship will evolve from the protective figure MC is now (not just physically but emotionally) to an intimate relationship.
There are a million way we can go and not in all we are necessarily a monster. Emma is young and naïve but she is not a 12 years old child and neither is MC trying to manipulate her (at least so far) into bedding her.

I am not saying those things cannot happen. Just that we the info we have so far, this could very much be a Disney story. Well, almost. Disney would probably fuck it up.

Hope and wait. One way or the other, Emma will be happy, even if I have to kill everyone in this novel.:love:
 
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The conversation with Charlotte resumes after she hears a loud noise and rushes to the MC's bedroom.
Emma hides behind the MC to avoid being seen while shopping for Charlotte's birthday present.
And a visit to the spa for Charlotte's birthday sees everyone in a more relaxed mood.
 

Chronos169

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Oh is this blood on the Mc's Hand?

So i am assuming that the Nightmares from "us" are getting worser and propably hitting the wall and hurting "ourself" is another step in the growing relationship on the Charlie route. I hope she is threatening us well.

Second pic, maybe Zakky boy is also there and Emma won't see him.

Third, interesting is there a conversation about "us" going on???

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Also to mention, that Charlie starts caring that much about "us" that she is dashing/entering "our " room in her sleep/underwear to check what is going on.

P.s.

And about time to thank Raminita feeding us so often with the latest updates (and others too).
 
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