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Ren'Py Hornycraft [v0.24.1] [Shadik]

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Firewally

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bobdillan said:
Probably think it isn't cause it is rape... how you can have someone given mod approval when they don't even check the sites own definitions before rejecting something, is beyond me.
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That's because you have a very broad definition of NTR.
For it to be NTR, there needs to be exclusivity, Steve isn't getting cucked by piglins and strangers and villagers because there isn't even an expectation for Alex to be his from her. He's just a loser, that isn't NTR. Same for your rant about rape scenes, not NTR.

NTR is for when the partner willingly cheats. Keyword willingly, and keyword cheats.
 
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I love both these games my main issue is both lack vaginal Tag I mean its great, just kind worried after other ones, that some how sex will be put on this magical pedal stool and then just kind there at the end. Its like everything was great then sex was so vanilla, and then slap completed on it. Its uh what the hell? It don't take this long to get to sex, and you could go so much further then you did really!?


I loved the other one but its to the point where I seen so many blue ball simulators I only catch these anymore when I just typed in male protag into filters and I am about to put vaginal and go "oh no way it updated! Oh no new tags god I hope it gets vaginal tag one day!" I romantic and like little forplay some goes years with out all the way, its worse then when I watched bleach and saw that season build up to save Rukia and they were all yeah she is not for him. Its like you kidding me he did all that for her, I wanted to see that go some where would been amazing love story, and he went with big tit sterotype number 1 isntead!"

That best example of how I feel with some of these its like come one your messing with me I want to see some thing steamy and crazy good who gets that far and is like "no we must wait," unless they say "for marriage" lol. And at that point in story I go "do it you fool worth it!" Its watching Friends all over again with the will they or won't they drama, too old for that shit now lol.
 
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Firewally said:
That's because you have a very broad definition of NTR.
For it to be NTR, there needs to be exclusivity, Steve isn't getting cucked by piglins and strangers and villagers because there isn't even an expectation for Alex to be his from her. He's just a loser, that isn't NTR. Same for your rant about rape scenes, not NTR.

NTR is for when the partner willingly cheats. Keyword willingly, and keyword cheats.
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I mean where is this official definition at again? Seems like every one has their own version. Its like loli and other tags now where I hear some like crazy no ideas like "it don't count if..." its like what there is tons of NTR here where its rape and things. I mean tentacle not so much, and that would voyeur if its not their girl and your watching and its the same thing as cucking but its not your girl. So honestly its like splitting hairs as its same fedish just not your wife, or girlfriend, and in these games you still mess with the girl, and watch her with other dudes and are "non exclusive"

And while not my thing to see her do BJ to a horse that is defiantly willing, but skipable so oh well. If anything it keeps going that way with horse need voyeur tag and that is a tag on this site, and you can't talk you way out of hoping because there is no websters you can throw what you want and have it stick lol. But yeah on topic not NTR deifantly borderline voyeur though, wich is damn near same thing especially way its used in hentia it can easily work for NTR even if its not you wife or girl they keep definitions loose on purpose so they can be in same ballpark and still market their doujin hentais to them lol.

Its kind of like a lot of hentai tags some purists argue futa don't count if there is balls, and don't even touch loli tag, in japan it means child pretty much lol. Fan transaltions try to change the stuff in case they get caught but its like direct translation is its jr high or younger lol. But Here loli means anything with smaller then a C cup sigh. Its what we get instead of small breasts or petite but a few use it the hentai proper way lol.
 
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Firewally said:
That's because you have a very broad definition of NTR.
For it to be NTR, there needs to be exclusivity, Steve isn't getting cucked by piglins and strangers and villagers because there isn't even an expectation for Alex to be his from her. He's just a loser, that isn't NTR. Same for your rant about rape scenes, not NTR.

NTR is for when the partner willingly cheats. Keyword willingly, and keyword cheats.
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Bruh... that is not how NTR works...

NTR is broad BY definition XD

Don't go assuming what it means by how westerners use it, go by it's actual meaning.

NTR (Netorare), literally translates to "To be Taken from.", it has never, and will never mean cheating, cheating is not NTR, and NTR is not cheating. However cheating can be NTR, and NTR can be cheating, but they are not mutually exclusive nor are they synonyms, that is a classic misunderstanding of the term, usually from those who assume its meaning because of the few stories they have read.

Also even by the weakest and most loose meaning what is in this game still counts as NTR, it just happens off screen, let alone the full meaning.

Back to the point "To be taken from." doesn't require much relationship level, childhood friend, and simple crush counts, all the way to lover and wife, and they can be taken from in ANY way, whether it be male female, human, not-human, animal etc. and method doesn't matter either, it can be cheating, it can be rape.

As for your "NTR is for when the partner willingly cheats".... bruh... you do realise that 2 major types of NTR REQUIRE them to be raped? there is rape that stays as rape, and rape leading to cheating (whether that be via mindbreak or they just start liking it).

So please, don't go assuming you know a word, when you don't even know it's LITERAL meaning.... which fun fact, is the words meaning. Cause by your definition, the japanese themselves have been using the word wrong since it's inception XD And about 80% of NTR isn't NTR.
 
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Zalzany said:
I mean where is this official definition at again? Seems like every one has their own version. Its like loli and other tags now where I hear some like crazy no ideas like "it don't count if..." its like what there is tons of NTR here where its rape and things. I mean tentacle not so much, and that would voyeur if its not their girl and your watching and its the same thing as cucking but its not your girl. So honestly its like splitting hairs as its same fedish just not your wife, or girlfriend, and in these games you still mess with the girl, and watch her with other dudes and are "non exclusive"

And while not my thing to see her do BJ to a horse that is defiantly willing, but skipable so oh well. If anything it keeps going that way with horse need voyeur tag and that is a tag on this site, and you can't talk you way out of hoping because there is no websters you can throw what you want and have it stick lol. But yeah on topic not NTR deifantly borderline voyeur though, wich is damn near same thing especially way its used in hentia it can easily work for NTR even if its not you wife or girl they keep definitions loose on purpose so they can be in same ballpark and still market their doujin hentais to them lol.

Its kind of like a lot of hentai tags some purists argue futa don't count if there is balls, and don't even touch loli tag, in japan it means child pretty much lol. Fan transaltions try to change the stuff in case they get caught but its like direct translation is its jr high or younger lol. But Here loli means anything with smaller then a C cup sigh. Its what we get instead of small breasts or petite but a few use it the hentai proper way lol.
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Official definition is it's translation, people are just too damned lazy to look it up, and just assume based on what they have been exposed to, or what another random on the internet has said. (Same goes for a lot of these terms, like loli as you meantioned, but the one that pisses me off most is Yandere.... people will call anything remotely protective yandere these days).

The translation being "To be taken from." (yes quite broad). And as Steve has a crush on whats-her-face, and she goes around fucking everything that has a dick, he is by definition "taken from" and thus NTR'd. (like seriously... this is a plotline right out of an NTR doujin... only difference being he actually gets some action in the end, and the other scenes aren't shown).

Netorase is that, but the MC is into it.

Netori is "To take."

And Reverse-NTR is basically "To be taken" (although afaik, this doesn't have a translation per say).
 
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Saves for 0.04.1:

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1-1: General Save

1-2: Original Scene of Alex in Gold Lingerie (You can now ask her to show you the Gold Lingerie in her "Show me" scenes)

1-3: Alex "Ask her" and "Show me" scenes

1-4: Creeper "Ask her" and "Show me" scenes

1-5: Alex Glory Hole Blowjob

1-6: Cow Swimming

2-1: Cow "Ask her" and "Show me" scenes

2-2: Sparky's Upbringing (BEASTIALITY WARNING)

2-3: Wandering Trader Cowgirl Scene (Cowgirl position, not a scene with both her and the Cow Girl)

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bobdillan said:
The amount of games on this forum that should have the NTR tag but don't is getting stupid... And I do report them, but there are some mods atm that just don't understand the term.

Like i had a report rejected on two games, one where the LI gets kidnapped raped, and then given to orcs to be raped some more. And the other where a tentacle monster molests the LI while MC watches helplessly.... And a mod rejected it saying it isn't NTR....

Probably think it isn't cause it is rape... how you can have someone given mod approval when they don't even check the sites own definitions before rejecting something, is beyond me.
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Do you remember the names of those two games?
 
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Mariointhezone said:
Do you remember the names of those two games?
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Scarlet Rose (The tentacle monster one): https://f95zone.to/threads/scarlet-rose-v0-1a-nekoman.121267/

And the Other is The asmodian princess yadda yadda (where the wolf-girl LI gets kidnapped and rapped then passed around by orcs, would have been an alright game if not for that, like it pretends to be something vanilla then throws that in there): https://f95zone.to/threads/the-asmo...he-witch-in-the-forest-final-blusterd.120846/
 
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what is or is not NTR is always heavily debated personally I go by vndb
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definitions as there the most coherent and descriptive of the varies forms of NTR. With many example games provided.

for this site though the definition is just

Tags Rules And List [Updated 2021-05-02]
  • NTR [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
now romantic interest is vague as romantic interest is not necessarily someone your in a relation ship with, but it is someone you are eider pursuing or wanting to pursue.

the words romantic interest pretty much mean "interested in romance with". Now to farther complicate things for what most of the "that's not NTR unless they are together" crowed. once there together their no longer just a romantic interest, but are now a romantic partner. By the current definition there no longer NTR on this site once you are together. o_O

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While that would exclude a vast number of NTR games on here NTR is at its core about jealousy. otherwise its just cheating, if they are in a relationship.

The problem is the site is trying to cater to the ones that want the girls to only be with the MC. While trying to cater to those that like NTR as NTR, and catering to those that like NTR games but don't really know what NTR is. If your interdiction is from a faulty description of NTR you will be looking for the wrong thing.

Lately I've seen a good amount of users that want swinging in the game calming it as NTR then the other side counters with NO NTR, but truthfully neither side were realy looking for NTR but rather one side wanted a swinging game and the other wanted a LI exclusive game.

honestly what we need is a
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tag, as that is really what most NO NTR members are looking for. As is the tag NTR is misused as it is currently an avoidance tag, but then those looking for it have to sift through all the games that really aren't it, but are rather cheating, swinging, or voyeur games. Those that are not really just want exclusivity. Then inseted of the "all NTR content is avoidable" it would be "all non MC content is avoidable"

Also with the negative connotation of NTR most devs don't want the tag on there games, as NTR has been a heated topic for years well beyond the gaming industry. At the same time swinging and to a degree cheating is not. Although it is being lumped together here.
 
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joblo9394 said:
While that would exclude a vast number of NTR games on here NTR is at its core about jealousy. otherwise its just cheating, if they are in a relationship.
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Bruh... wat.... "To be taken from" doesn't require jealousy :|

NTR at it's core, is being taken from... literally.... you don't need to go through all that complicated explanation, or jumping from various different sources... just use the words meaning. keep it simple.

Adding the whole jealousy thing just over-complicates it and causes even more confusion, cause then people think jealousy is required (which it isn't, not knowing about the NTR that is happening has 0 jealousy but is still NTR).

VNDB's definition... is a bit strange ngl, there is no clause in Netorare's meaning that specifies any jealousy. My assumption would be that they clearly separate NTR and Netorase as well when there is no jealousy it moves over to sharing/Netorase etc. However that is still NTR, just cause the MC isn't jealous doesn't mean anything, the requirement being "To be taken from" is met either way. Sooooooooo :|

To their credit though, they clearly separate NTR and Reverse-NTR and Netori.. unlike a certain doujin hosting site.... *stares at nhentai*

Although like many, they do sometimes suffer the "Not properly tagged" issue. (mostly on western games that get put on there tbh).
 
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