kumerie

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Jun 19, 2022
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Id pay 5 or 10 bucks to get the full version of this game on release day, but im not paying that every month. For a renpy game. Dev would probably make a lot more sales if you only had to make a one time purchase.
Honestly you're so right that's why I don't really understand why patreon or other websites support stuff like this, it's such a massive scam. If you think about it a developer would probably be incentivized to prolong the creation of the game as much as possible. why finish a game that's gonna be worth ten bucks at most when he can prolong it for like 3 plus years, making somebody who's subscribed every single month, pay a total of 300$ plus for not even a completed game, it's disgusting. No game is worth that much. Especially not one that everything is made with AI Probably the story is made by AI as well but yeah, big scam i feel like patreon and patreon like websites shouldn't be used for creating games It's just a scam when it is. they should go back to the kickstarters or gofund me where you only have to pledge once
 

tramtoriana2

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Oct 4, 2018
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Honestly you're so right that's why I don't really understand why patreon or other websites support stuff like this, it's such a massive scam. If you think about it a developer would probably be incentivized to prolong the creation of the game as much as possible. why finish a game that's gonna be worth ten bucks at most when he can prolong it for like 3 plus years, making somebody who's subscribed every single month, pay a total of 300$ plus for not even a completed game, it's disgusting. No game is worth that much. Especially not one that everything is made with AI Probably the story is made by AI as well but yeah, big scam i feel like patreon and patreon like websites shouldn't be used for creating games It's just a scam when it is. they should go back to the kickstarters or gofund me where you only have to pledge once
He is only in 6monts of development :D he is still new and others devs can't finish the game who started in 2020
 
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cuteperce

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Honestly you're so right that's why I don't really understand why patreon or other websites support stuff like this, it's such a massive scam. If you think about it a developer would probably be incentivized to prolong the creation of the game as much as possible. why finish a game that's gonna be worth ten bucks at most when he can prolong it for like 3 plus years, making somebody who's subscribed every single month, pay a total of 300$ plus for not even a completed game, it's disgusting. No game is worth that much. Especially not one that everything is made with AI Probably the story is made by AI as well but yeah, big scam i feel like patreon and patreon like websites shouldn't be used for creating games It's just a scam when it is. they should go back to the kickstarters or gofund me where you only have to pledge once



I am always in awe when people drop comments like these, for this should be a fairly simple concept to grasp for anyone who spends more than two minutes thinking about it, let alone someone who actively consumes said content. I'll take a few minutes for what is meant to be an educational reply...


First, a few things you are right about:
  • No game's box price should be $300
  • Some developers may unnecessarily keep extending the scope of their game

What you are wrong about:
  • You are paying for a game (Patreon is not a storefront; you aren't paying for a game. You are funding a creator's ambitions)
  • Crowdfunding is a scam(?)
  • I am AI, you are AI, my grandma's AI! (If you think AI negates any significant part of the development effort a game like HoS takes, please try making your own game and let me know how many thousands of hours it'll take)
  • If you think AI brought the quality of a game to an unacceptable level, then why are you playing in the first place?

With that out of the way, here's why you should rethink your comment:

Creating games is an arduous task, one that requires capital and an immense time commitment (even more so for indie solo devs)

Without people supporting AVN developers, the grim reality is that most adult games you pirate and play for free wouldn't exist. There are no publishers, studios, or investors to help fund and advertise games in this sector. Instead, there's each and every one of you. Some of you play for free, others choose to support (and apparently, others want to see the whole sector go up in flames)

Anyone who chooses to support adult game developers has my utmost respect and, frankly, they should have yours too, for these are the same people funding your porn addiction.


Free players also serve an important purpose by building organic buzz and bringing inherent discoverability/growth which would otherwise be impossible to have in this sector.
Ultimately, the relationship between free players and paid supporters should be synergistic, not antagonistic.


While you sit there and theorize why adult-game devs are a bunch of scamming masterminds, or the reincarnation of evil itself, know that crowdfunding is the only thing that allows creators to take a leap into what is STILL a massive risk that may never pay off the time investment it takes.

If you keep condemning creators, the platforms that allow those creators to exist, or the people that support those creators, then you best be ready to go back to the 2010s and enjoy some Newgrounds flash mini-games! (Those were cool too! But you get the idea...)
 

cjidhacuiosmd

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Feb 27, 2024
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back to making games, ur arguments are terrible.
Be happy that u have that many subscribers, get as much as possible from it, cuz if we look deeper, u use someones engine
(dont pay for it) someone else characters (dont pay for it) free ai generator (dont pay either) and just making free money.
Ah ye, almost forgot, u probably use someones model also.
the last thing i can say about " If you keep condemning creators, the platforms that allow those creators to exist, or the people that support those creators, "
U don't even know how many people make games meanwhile going to work and invest their time for free.
nvm
 

jovannidesu

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Jun 28, 2022
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u use someones engine
(dont pay for it) someone else characters (dont pay for it) free ai generator (dont pay either) and just making free money.
Yeah and when you go to work, you breath air ( dont pay for it ), use your employer's tools ( dont pay for it ), sell to your employer's customers ( dont pay for it ), basically making free money.

How dumb do you have to be to just ignore developer's labor smh
 

coomlord60

New Member
Jul 22, 2024
1
1
back to making games, ur arguments are terrible.
Be happy that u have that many subscribers, get as much as possible from it, cuz if we look deeper, u use someones engine
(dont pay for it) someone else characters (dont pay for it) free ai generator (dont pay either) and just making free money.
Ah ye, almost forgot, u probably use someones model also.
the last thing i can say about " If you keep condemning creators, the platforms that allow those creators to exist, or the people that support those creators, "
U don't even know how many people make games meanwhile going to work and invest their time for free.
nvm
It's immensely hilarious that you, a simpleton, actually believe you have it all figured out, yet you cannot construct one coherent sentence. We're all degenerates in here, browsing this forum to find pixels to jerk off to, yet you manage claim the prize for "least intelligent individual".
 
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x0waffelkeks0x

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I don't understand why some people have to be so insulting. Of course, I can understand that many, including myself, would like to have the v17 update now. But we have to wait or we'll pay.
 

1tomadeira

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May 25, 2017
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I don't understand why some people have to be so insulting. Of course, I can understand that many, including myself, would like to have the v17 update now. But we have to wait or we'll pay.
Because people are kids that's why.

I'm not even that fond of the paywall system and that's one of the reasons I don't subscribe the game, and I even said it to the dev, but calling it a scam or saying that the dev is lazy is simply being delusional. The game has quite some content for the time of the develop and it's fun, whatever people may say.

People are simply mad because they don't have the same easy access for something for free, while at the same time all they do is being on the sofa scratching their balls.
 
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