How do you feel about AI generated (porn) content?

[DaFirst]

As someone who can enjoy games that are just text it doesnt really bother me if theres AI art in a game. As long as the writing is decent (which it usualy isnt). Problem is that bunch of games that contain AI art usualy feel like shovelware. The art tends to have a lot of anomalies and the writing is barely even a language sometimes. If some good writer used AI to just support his text with a bit of visual candy im all for it. But i have yet to play a game where this is the case.

 

[Gronez]

I don't have any doubt that AI generated content it's the future. But for now it feel so out of place most of the times. Feels like isn't cohesive with the set up/enviroment.

 

[ins7up]

Hi, I apologize right away for my English, I'm from Ukraine myself and don't know it very well.. I use a translator. It turned out to be quite cool, beautiful, elegant, exciting... It looks quite promising, it would be very good if he knew how to do something like a continuation in the form of a gif or video

 

[Elo91]

If you are interested I can post a small tutorial how I run my own image generating service (no internet connection needed and without filters).

Yes please! I'm a type of programmer myself but completely new to AI images. I'd absolutely love any tips on how to get started with the best quality AI images we can at this point. And offline for privacy ofc.

So what do you think about AI generated content? Do you prefer pictures coming from an actual artist or do you not mind having an computer doing the heavy lifting?

I mean this is a big question. Ethically imo it's the same as technological advancement vs. any job in history. If something can be automated and mass-produced cheaply, it will be. People, jobs, will have to adjust. To say it sucks for the people affected is a massive understatement of course, but a huge help to everyone else. And the needs of the many really do outweigh the needs of the very few.

The people who view AI as anti-artist are grossly oversimplifying the issue, and ignoring the billions of regular people who through it have access to something they never would have otherwise. Greed and capitalism are a massive problem, but that's not on AI. It's on the super rich, the corporations, and the corrupt governments enabling both.

My own job is unlikely to exist in the next 10-20 years, possibly much less. So I absolutely do empathize with the artists. But we all collectively face the same challenge in the near future where either UBI becomes a thing, work weeks get shorter and people are free to spend their time on their passions instead of their next bread... or it's the other, dystopian thing instead.

So yes for now I prefer real artists ofc. But I also understand that not many have the money or access to them, and good AI is better than bad amateurs or nothing at all. But things are changing fast and we all know it won't be long at all until AI can easily push out top tier art tailored to every common person's personal needs and desires. And that is not a bad thing.

 

[Semetrika]

All AI look like shit, if they don't have edit. Another think is, it look same. It's same problem with DAZ or HS default assets. They look soulness.

 

[Last69!]

Right now it still a bit iffy but has been getting better. I think that in 5 years it will be mostly there.

 

[desmosome]

Since I can't fap to just a picture without an underlying story (even a captioned pic counts as a story), AI art isn't something I use much. When yodayo was still NSFW, I played around with the image gen, getting quite proficient in prompting, img-2-img, ControlNet, etc. But pictures are just pics... AI can produce cool pics, but I can also just probably find anything I could think of in rule34 or something.

I mostly play around with chatbots. Yodayo had the best language models and extra systems for roleplaying. Too bad they banned all porn lol. Now, I'm using mostly Janitor AI which is a HUGE downgrade as an LLM, but oh well.

LLM are still very much prone to all the problems it had, but LLM lets you do something that you can't do in any other porn medium. Basically set up any scenario, setting, or characters and take the story in ANY direction you can think of. As a complete degenerate, I can think of some fucked up shit that probably don't exist on the internet.

Like most recently, I was reading the synopsis of the Dune mainline series for some reason that I can't remember (I only watched the two Villeneuve movies, so wasn't familiar with the full lore). Then I came across Bene Tleilax and the Axlotl Tanks. Axlotl Tanks, which is used to create gholas (clones), are later revealed to be modified females that was turned into some biomechanical incubator. That shit tickled my degen cells, and I created a Dune bot where I play as Leto II who has been possessed by the ego-memory of Vlad Harkonnen (Happens to Alia in canon). He then goes around turning his family and prominent Dune characers into Axlotl Tanks that he has sex with... lol

 

[AdParnassum]

For the finishing touch (and the utter waste of my precious bodily fluids), I still use Real Life porn.
But I love to watch AI porn (pics, and nowadays also some clips 'cause they are getting better, too, despite the flaws) to warm myself up a bit.

Until now, I'm perfectly happy with that.

 

[MissCougar]

If you just need art and you can't afford an artist, might as well.

I think the biggest issues are:

• AI is pretty recognisable, like in your pictures you showed in the original post. They look like AI.
• You may have issues maintaining the same look of some character across multiple images
• Having two character interact gets more complicated
• Your backgrounds will look like fudgy AI stuff
• People will overall not respect your art much higher than someone struggling with MS paint looking characters, and the MS paint person can at least still call themselves a real artist
• if you plan to monetize, all of the above will impact your potential money, people generally don't pay much for AI "slop"
• Expect to defend yourself against being called AI slop regularly

if you are fine with these or don't care and just want to putz around making a video game, then none of it matters and go learn and do it!

 

[Winterfire]

people generally don't pay much for AI "slop"

Not true, there are many good AI game earners.

Expect to defend yourself against being called AI slop regularly

"Defending" yourself is so unprofessional that I hope no dev actually follows through with that, not to mention it's one of the reasons so many people get in trouble and then complain. Ignoring is truly underrated.

People will overall not respect your art much higher than someone struggling with MS paint looking characters, and the MS paint person can at least still call themselves a real artist

Saying "MS Paint" as if it's capable of outputting only trash is completely wrong. MS Paint is especially capable of doing pixel art.
I doubt I'd define someone doing stick figures on MS Paint as a real artist, but it wouldn't change the fact that AI is much better than beginner artists (or non artists).

 

[MissCougar]

Not true, there are many good AI game earners.

I'm sure there are, but I think it will be a more uphill battle and rely on your game concept and playability a lot more. I have no evidence to back up my claim besides what I have seen here and elsewhere regarding how people view the usage of AI CG in a project as more of a negative than a positive or neutral component to a project.

"Defending" yourself is so unprofessional that I hope no dev actually follows through with that, not to mention it's one of the reasons so many people get in trouble and then complain. Ignoring is truly underrated.

Of course. Nobody should ever fight anyone. Perhaps more just justify its use or use it well enough that nobody feels like it's the cheap way out.

Saying "MS Paint" as if it's capable of outputting only trash is completely wrong. MS Paint is especially capable of doing pixel art.
I doubt I'd define someone doing stick figures on MS Paint as a real artist, but it wouldn't change the fact that AI is much better than beginner artists (or non artists).

I think we all saw that one guy make photorealistic pictures of train stations and Santa clause with MS Paint back in the day. I'm aware that for an artis the tool won't necessarily stop them from being a good artist. I was more referring to the general quality of output, not the actual usage of MS Paint.

I hope this clears up some confusion, I used generalities and concepts in place of what I meant to convey so I apologize!

 

[Winterfire]

I have no evidence to back up my claim besides what I have seen here

https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/tags=2265/sort=rating

And that's only considering here, the big earners are on Steam.

Players only care about quality (or in the case of NSFW, what makes their pp hard), most of them probably wouldn't even be able to tell what is AI generated or not apart.
If a human drawn CG looks garbage and an AI generated one looks good, they'll always pick the latter.

The loud ones are a very small minority, and mostly composed by artists that wouldn't play your game anyway.

I say that as one of the exceptions that doesn't genuinely like AI art, but data across many platforms shows that the majority likes it or simply doesn't care. Which also makes sense on why so many people use AI to make games nowdays.

 

[MissCougar]

https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/tags=2265/sort=rating

And that's only considering here, the big earners are on Steam.

Players only care about quality (or in the case of NSFW, what makes their pp hard), most of them probably wouldn't even be able to tell what is AI generated or not apart.
If a human drawn CG looks garbage and an AI generated one looks good, they'll always pick the latter.

The loud ones are a very small minority, and mostly composed by artists that wouldn't play your game anyway.

I say that as one of the exceptions that doesn't genuinely like AI art, but data across many platforms shows that the majority likes it or simply doesn't care. Which also makes sense on why so many people use AI to make games nowdays.

Thats fine with me. I have played and seen much AI so far, but I'm also aware of its use and always looking for the flaws. But I may not be the general majority of consumers so its a whatever.

Overall though my main point is don't let AI art stop you from making your game- go for it. There may be some push back at some point but who cares. As long as you, the dev, is happy, nothing else matters.

I'm a big proponent of "just do it!" even though my inability to decide on styles or art kill my ability to make forward progress. Don't be me.

 

[AdParnassum]

Thats fine with me. I have played and seen much AI so far, but I'm also aware of its use and always looking for the flaws. But I may not be the general majority of consumers so its a whatever.

Overall though my main point is don't let AI art stop you from making your game- go for it. There may be some push back at some point but who cares. As long as you, the dev, is happy, nothing else matters.

I'm a big proponent of "just do it!" even though my inability to decide on styles or art kill my ability to make forward progress. Don't be me.

I admit that I don't know much about the game stuff.

To me, AI generated porn is mostly a step further than the 3Dx porn rendering.
And yes, I laugh my booty off when I see those pretty AI ladies with hazy eyes, 2 belly buttons, 6 fingers on each hand and a couple of vaginas who are supposed to be ears.
Not to mention the guys who look like girls (Beavis and Butt-head would have enjoyed that, too).

But I do like the exaggeration of the female curves sometimes or the overflowing amounts of bodily fluids, as I already did in Anime and 3Dx porn earlier on.
Let's just summarize that there is already plenty of AI porn that is able to stimulate my naughty fantasies.
And you won't hear me complain about it.

 

[That other person]

I feel like it's a good tool for people like me who cannot draw at all and can be used, yes, but honestly it's more about the effort for me.

People often say "AI slop" because it's generic, looks strange even when you can't quite tell why, not many worry about keeping the characters looking the same in each picture, and the overall laziness that comes with it is outstanding. Because it's easy.

In games people think they can get away with some random pics with hot scenes, but then they have awful story, terrible dialogue and, even though it's easier to generate them than it is to draw them, they end up with less scenes somehow. So it's just a slideshow of random characters you can't recognize by the end doing stuff.

If you can give me plenty of scenes, dialogue, choices, actual gameplay in certain genres, good characters and a pleasant flow of the game, then I will absolutely overlook the use of AI because there was still effort, but maybe the person can't draw or the artist they felt worked was too expensive, whatever. I get that. It's a good tool, but as with every good tool, it's abused.

Also, some artists do have weird styles and some might not be as polished, but there's still a charm to them. They take time to get better. Some post the same drawing they made five years earlier and show their progress and that's great, so I'm not going to point fingers at those that post their beginner drawings online, everyone starts somewhere.

However... I do have to say that even though I can be okay with AI, when it comes to choosing I will always go for the actual drawing and not the AI generated image. I simply respect that effort.

 

[MissCougar]

I admit that I don't know much about the game stuff.

To me, AI generated porn is mostly a step further than the 3Dx porn rendering.
And yes, I laugh my booty off when I see those pretty AI ladies with hazy eyes, 2 belly buttons, 6 fingers on each hand and a couple of vaginas who are supposed to be ears.
Not to mention the guys who look like girls (Beavis and Butt-head would have enjoyed that, too).

But I do like the exaggeration of the female curves sometimes or the overflowing amounts of bodily fluids, as I already did in Anime and 3Dx porn earlier on.
Let's just summarize that there is already plenty of AI porn that is able to stimulate my naughty fantasies.
And you won't hear me complain about it.

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I feel like it's a good tool for people like me who cannot draw at all and can be used, yes, but honestly it's more about the effort for me.

People often say "AI slop" because it's generic, looks strange even when you can't quite tell why, not many worry about keeping the characters looking the same in each picture, and the overall laziness that comes with it is outstanding. Because it's easy.

In games people think they can get away with some random pics with hot scenes, but then they have awful story, terrible dialogue and, even though it's easier to generate them than it is to draw them, they end up with less scenes somehow. So it's just a slideshow of random characters you can't recognize by the end doing stuff.

If you can give me plenty of scenes, dialogue, choices, actual gameplay in certain genres, good characters and a pleasant flow of the game, then I will absolutely overlook the use of AI because there was still effort, but maybe the person can't draw or the artist they felt worked was too expensive, whatever. I get that. It's a good tool, but as with every good tool, it's abused.

Also, some artists do have weird styles and some might not be as polished, but there's still a charm to them. They take time to get better. Some post the same drawing they made five years earlier and show their progress and that's great, so I'm not going to point fingers at those that post their beginner drawings online, everyone starts somewhere.

However... I do have to say that even though I can be okay with AI, when it comes to choosing I will always go for the actual drawing and not the AI generated image. I simply respect that effort.

Agree and I'm fine with these things. If you can't draw but want tostill do stuff, AI is totally fine.

I also like AI way more than any of the Daz stuff, so there's that too.

I don't much like the AI that gets hyper real though. Once it looks like real people I dislike it more. I am very happy with my porny stuff looking very cartoon and not real. If I want real there's too many places for that.

However one of the things I've been semi playing around with is actually using AI to alter existing images, like using myself as a model and applying just enough AI to change me but not enough that it ruins what I look like or changes my pose up. I've been having some fun with that and I also feel like it's probably more artistic and valid, since it's not just a pure text gen but I did stuff to make it do things you might not easily get out of a text prompt. But who knows!

 

[Matt_Morlan]

I believe the ethical implications of AI-generated content absolutely need to be taken seriously and discussed. However, we can't ignore the reality of what’s actually happening: more and more people, companies, and even AAA game studios are adopting generative AI in their workflows.

Personally, I don’t feel comfortable using AI-generated character images in the games I make, but this trend is definitely becoming more common. I have used AI-generated backgrounds in prototypes, and they integrated really well. yet I still hesitate to release them commercially.

I also understand why many are embracing it, especially considering how expensive game development has become. Big companies often seem more focused on exploiting players than on innovation, so it feels like the future of new IPs might rest with small studios that have to find alternative ways to produce quality content efficiently.

At least, that’s how I see the current landscape in gaming

 

[Matt_Morlan]

I've been experimenting quite a bit with AI, mostly for my own entertainment rather than serious projects, and I have to admit, even the "hallucinations" can be interesting depending on the context. When integrated into a fantasy style, they almost feel like part of the aesthetic rather than outright errors. That said, I understand this is a niche approach, and most people expect something to be "finished" only when it reaches absolute realism.

 

[Rock Licker]

I used to be against it, but I'm slowly coming to terms with it. But I won't praise it compaired to some of the more skilled artists out there that draws the content themselves.

 

[DuniX]

If it's a choice between another Daz Ugly MILF and another Koikatsu game, I will take my chances with AI CG.