How important is that the story is sex-focused?

[Apple_Tart_Games]

So, I've got one game released called Sir Stretchalot - Wenches in the Well. It's a parody of the witcher in a lot of ways and it's about a knight who goes around stretching monster girls (fucking them in the bum). I'm releasing a second game soon.

In both of these games there is a story going on. In the first one Sir Stretchalot is hired by a hot inkeep to rid the local well of some monsters that are causing problems. He goes down the well, fights some monsters, and butt fucks the two water monster girls causing trouble.

The 2nd game sees Stretchalot trying to resolve a conflict between a bunch of elves and a group of bandits who want to fuck them in the ass for magical benefits.

In both games, the story isn't exactly about sex, but everything pretty much leads to it one way or another.

So, I'm wondering how important that balance of story and porn is to you guys?

I ask because I've got three episodes of another series that I done a while back that I was thinking about re-making into porn games. The story for these isn't really sex-focused as such, but I feel like I could push it in there pretty easily as the reward of a story. For example: the first episode has the player working in an inn and meeting the other workers. One of them is a hot, college age girl. There's a fire. You save her dog in the end.

It all works fine as a non-18+ game as is, but I was thinking I could easily make it so she rewards the player for saving her dog by letting him fuck her in the ass.

Does this sort of thing sound like a terrible idea? I'm pretty new to making porn games, so I figured I'd better ask.


Thanks!

 

[nicod]

the sex based story turns me off ... always remember that there are many porn sites
and still we left them and came here to the adult games ... why ?

because people want story mixed with adult content .. story with adult content (not sex with linear story)

so i will suggest you to stick with story and mix it with adult content . you can always make erotic moments

don't forget to ask the admins for developer tag

 

[Beatrix Kiddo]

I'm not entirely sure what do you mean by sex-focused.

I like stories where sex is a relevant key factor. That doesn't mean it has to have a shit ton of sex, nor be without reason, build up or context. But if you can take all the porn out of the game without any other substantial change and still have essentially the same story, well it doesn't mean it's bad but I'll probably be less invested or interested in it. Still some of my favorite games fall into the latter category.

Examples where sex is part of the story: Pale Carnations, LomL (debatable), The Headmaster, A Mother's Love.
Examples where sex is just an addition to the story: BaDIK, Where the heart is, Lust Academy.

 

[Jofur]

For me, having the world being hyper focused around sex is a bit of a turn-off, or at the very least doesn't do much for me. Immersion is a powerful aphrodisiac, and having everything reference sex or porn just takes me out of the experience. For example having a character called "Sir Stretchalot" makes me not take anything I do as that character seriously. I'm not immersing myself as a knight banging monsters and maidens as much because he's just a wacky joke, not a real character.

That's not to say the game shouldn't have a lot of eroticism of course, but you can be erotic or comedic without making everything in the game a sex joke, or making the entire world absurdly sex-obsessed with no other characteristics.

Story itself can be more simple IMO. I don't mind a story where the player's singular goal is fucking hot women, as long as the characters are enjoyably written, or at the very least knows how to cater to a fetish. That said having a main story not solely about sex is also pretty handy in creating interesting situations, and there's only so far you can go with "man want fuck woman" before you run out of ideas to keep it fresh.

 

[khumak]

Depends on how well the non sex part of the game stands up on it's own. Would I play it if it had zero sex in it? If the answer is no then it should focus on the sex.

 

[hakarlman]

In both of these games there is a story going on. In the first one Sir Stretchalot is hired by a hot inkeep to rid the local well of some monsters that are causing problems.

It's good that she doesn't mention anything about sex here, nor does the hero, that way the sex comes as a surprise.

He goes down the well, fights some monsters, and butt fucks the two water monster girls causing trouble.

He solves quest with sexual means, perfect. So the story quest, the motivation, the narrative is to get rid of monsters, but how he solves that is through sexual means, which is great for a porn game.

In both games, the story isn't exactly about sex, but everything pretty much leads to it one way or another.

So, I'm wondering how important that balance of story and porn is to you guys?

I think you have the perfect blend. The story ultimately serves the sexual resolution, it's a porn game after all. The story doesn't mention sex directly, so there's mystery, then when the sex hits, it'll hit nice and hard.

It all works fine as a non-18+ game as is, but I was thinking I could easily make it so she rewards the player for saving her dog by letting him fuck her in the ass.

Even better! This sounds like a fun game, hah.

The 2nd game sees Stretchalot trying to resolve a conflict between a bunch of elves and a group of bandits who want to fuck them in the ass for magical benefits.

LOL, this game sounds great.

Does this sort of thing sound like a terrible idea? I'm pretty new to making porn games, so I figured I'd better ask.

IMO, it sounds like you know what exactly what you're doing.

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

Mostly agree with Jofur above, however I can name Overwhored as a game that I enjoyed whose plot does actually revolve around MC domming and banging every attractive female character he lays his eyes on. For most of the game, that's basically the plot. It worked for me because the pacing was good, neither blueballing me nor serving up the scenes for no effort. And it staddled a fine line between comedy and power-trip. There are similar games that feel more lukewarm towards like Grolokk, Harem Collector and Goblin Layer. It's not a bad idea for a game, it can work with the right tone and pacing.

 

[Apple_Tart_Games]

I'm not entirely sure what do you mean by sex-focused.

I like stories where the sex is an integral part of it. That doesn't mean it has to have a shit ton of sex. If you can take all the porn out of the game without any other substantial change and still have essentially the same story, well it doesn't mean it's bad but I'll probably be less invested or interested in it.

Sex is integral in my Stretchalot games more because it's the MC's sole purpose in life. Similar to how Geralt in the Witcher's sole purpose is to hunt monsters. You could take the sex out of Sir Stretchalot, but the MC would need a lot of changing to make it work.

For me, having the world being hyper focused around sex is a bit of a turn-off, or at the very least doesn't do much for me. Immersion is a powerful aphrodisiac, and having everything reference sex or porn just takes me out of the experience. For example having a character called "Sir Stretchalot" makes me not take anything I do as that character seriously. I'm not immersing myself as a knight banging monsters and maidens as much because he's just a wacky joke, not a real character.

That's not to say the game shouldn't have a lot of eroticism of course, but you can be erotic or comedic without making everything in the game a sex joke, or making the entire world absurdly sex-obsessed with no other characteristics.

Story itself can be more simple IMO. I don't mind a story where the player's singular goal is fucking hot women, as long as the characters are enjoyably written, or at the very least knows how to cater to a fetish. That said having a main story not solely about sex is also pretty handy in creating interesting situations, and there's only so far you can go with "man want fuck woman" before you run out of ideas to keep it fresh.

So, Sir Stretchalot is absolutely a parody comedy. It really shouldn't be taking too seriously. I don't make everything a sex joke as such, which is good, like you say. The main story for both of these games doesn't actually revolve around sex, which I guess I was wondering about whether or not that's a bad or good thing. In each game, sex just sort of happens along the way.

 

[noobtrain]

A mix of both story and adult content is preferred by many on this site. The key is doing both well.

F95Zone is mainly a pirate site for adult games. Players have certain expectations when playing games here.

There are some pure porn games on this site but if you notice, the most popular games are those with a good blend of both story and adult content (sex/lewd content). Players are tired of seeing the same stuff over and over again. Games that are unique and done well usually attract the most attention.

Common Pitfalls that I see in games on this site:

• Low quality animations - 2 to 4 frames, choppy, a lack of back and forth movement, robotic movements, blank facial expressions
• Rushed sex scenes - no foreplay or buildup to sex - (take your time and do them properly)
• Sex scenes lack passion
• Games where the MC basically fucks all females with zero effort - all females are instantly possessed by the MC's huge dick
• Females in the game are all sluts
• Games that should be non-adult but the author put one or two sex scenes in the game so they could call it an adult title
• Overused stories
• Characters with no personality or all females having the same personality

Best of luck to you!

 

[Apple_Tart_Games]

It's good that she doesn't mention anything about sex here, nor does the hero, that way the sex comes as a surprise.

Yeh, in both games it's never really about sex as such. It just ends in sex.

He solves quest with sexual means, perfect. So the story quest, the motivation, the narrative is to get rid of monsters, but how he solves that is through sexual means, which is great for a porn game.

That's basically how this character works, yeh. I sort of have a running joke about how he refers to stretching monsters and stretching hotties, and no one can really understand if he means killing or fucking. The MC is sort of a buffoon.

But in terms of the gameplay. You'll "stretch" a bunch of monsters in a dungeon, in this case just killing them. Then you might "stretch" a boss. In game 1 this results in you getting to then "stretch" the mind back into place of said boss afterwards, but this time it's a full porn scene where Stretchalot fucks her in a full nelson stretch, and then literally sticks his dick through the side of her head and out the other side where her friend sucks on it.

So, it's basically non porn game stuff, that ends in porn game stuff that aligns with the MC's story. Stretchalot is always traveling around to find new hotties to stretch, but each time there's always more to it.

Even better! This sounds like a fun game, hah.

It's only $1 if you want to try it out on Steam or Itch, but someone also uploaded here on F95 as well:

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https://f95zone.to/threads/sir-stre...-well-v23062021-apple-tart-games.70909/page-5

LOL, this game sounds great.

This second game isn't done yet, but you can check out more of it on my Twitter, Patreon and Discord. I did show off some of the new art style that game uses in page 5 of the f95 thread I provided just above as well.

New game is gonna be a lot bigger than the first one. It's something like 60k words of dialogue at the moment and I haven't fully finished writing some parts. Game 1 launched with 9k words before I revised it a couple months after launch to add an epilogue and bring it to 19k.

Game 1's sex scenes are nowhere near as good as Game 2's as well, and there's way more of them in Game 2 also.

I really tried to push the options in them for game 2 and make them not super linear. Like, I just did a scene where it starts with an elf getting her big tits out, and you can look at them, grope them, or tit fuck them. Then when you wanna move on she's showing her ass to you, and you can butt fuck her, then choose if you want to gape her, go back to butt fucking her, etc. Then when you cum in her you still have options there, like you can keep fucking her with all the cum there, or gape her again and see the cum oozing, out etc.

Trying to keep this level of quality in all major scenes. They take a bit of work, so I hope it's what people like haha.

IMO, it sounds like you know what exactly what you're doing.

I hope so haha. I didn't make or even play any porn games before this. I was making main stream stuff and it all failed. This porn game project started out as just a bit of a joke to see if it could make money of it, but then I feel in love with it pretty much instantly. The players and all the feedback I've gotten from here and elsewhere opened my eyes to all the possibilities in porn games. Like, I can write whatever the fuck I want in these games, which is great for my style of vulgar comedy. It's amazing lol.

 

[Apple_Tart_Games]

A mix of both story and adult content is preferred by many on this site. The key is doing both well.

F95Zone is mainly a pirate site for adult games. Players have certain expectations when playing games on this site.

There are some pure porn games on this site but if you notice, the most popular games are those with a good blend of both story and adult content (sex/lewd content). Players are tired of seeing the same stuff over and over again. Games that are unique and done well usually attract the most attention.

Best of luck to you!

Yeh, I sorta wondered if people cared more about a sexual situation over the story. It sounds like they need to go hand in hand. That's how I do things now so it sounds like I should keep approaching these games in the same way that I currently am.

 

[Meaning Less]

Just do you, there is no right or wrong way. Some people like adult games with more sex and minimal story while others like adult games with more story and minimal sex.

Do what you feel works best for your game and the people interested will show up.

 

[noobtrain]

Yeh, I sorta wondered if people cared more about a sexual situation over the story. It sounds like they need to go hand in hand. That's how I do things now so it sounds like I should keep approaching these games in the same way that I currently am.

I updated my post so you may want to read it again.

If you want a great example of a game that does just about everything right, I highly recommend you take a look at this game:

City of Broken Dreamers

 

[Apple_Tart_Games]

I updated my post so you may want to read it again.

If you want a great example of a game that does just about everything right, I highly recommend you take a look at this game:

City of Broken Dreamers

Ah, I see the update to your post. Thanks for the pointers. I think I managed to avoid most of those pitfalls for the first game, so that's reassuring. My sex scene animations are actually only 1-2 frames, but the first game was only $1 and launched without any animations. People were okay with that for the price and didn't seem to even expect animations. I'll try to get more frames in though.

Will check out City of Broken Dreamers as well! Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Doorknob22]

The story should not be about sex, it should be about people. Sexy, believable people having sex.

 

[Apple_Tart_Games]

The story should not be about sex, it should be about people. Sexy, believable people having sex.

Love it!

 

[kristijanEX]

I treat porn games like porn, arouse me, I'm not here for an Oscar level story, it's hard to expect that from a fan project anyways, but it's not hard to get me hard, so get me hard. Or I'll spank your girl next March.

 

[darkdepths]

For me since it is a porn game the erotic should always be a present factor.

What I mean is NOT to have constant sex scences, I love slowburn corruption games so early action is a turn off.

If your character gains some kind of powers for example you can make a serious story about it but at the same time you should always be excited and get opportunities to use them to get laid. The excitement needs to always be there.

The negative example for me would be the popular Dreams of desire game, you get this exciting mind control powers but the story gets later completely in the way imo. You get big text dumps and explanations which kills all excitement before you get a little teasing scene and after that start the whole process again.
Bright lord falls in the same category, the story of this games can be amazing but this is not why I play them - if it kills the boner I am out.

 

[anne O'nymous]

The story should not be about sex, it should be about people. Sexy, believable people having sex.

Exactly.

Ideally, there's a story, then around it there's sex. But the story should exist by itself, and be consistent even when you remove all the sex parts ; it's the story that give reason to have sex, not the sex that give reason to have a story.