I do like small breasts

[Daxter250]

I'd rather start with the "namespace" layout of e-hentai and rule34.xxx, or even go a step further and assign sub-attributes to the tags themselves e.g. "female:rape:female_rapist" or "ntrunavoidable, male_cuck, female_bull)".

unfortunately the tags on e-hentai are also not always good. sometimes you have comics with a tag in it that just happens on one page, yet that tagis treated the same as all the other tags that are more prominent in that comic. that's why i would like to have a level based tag system where you can simiply colorize these tags to see at one glance what tag is prominent and what is not.

 

[Sphere42]

unfortunately the tags on e-hentai are also not always good. sometimes you have comics with a tag in it that just happens on one page, yet that tagis treated the same as all the other tags that are more prominent in that comic. that's why i would like to have a level based tag system where you can simiply colorize these tags to see at one glance what tag is prominent and what is not.

Hence "start with". The issue is that binary presence or non-presence is rather easy to prove empirically (basically "tits or gtfo") whereas coming up with universal quantitative guidelines would be next to impossible. Say for example you have one game where a single-scene side character has small breasts but said scene is an interactive animation on par with the better Flash games. All other characters in that game have monstrous melons larger than their heads. And then compare that to a second game where everyone has small breasts and all the content involves them being fondled, licked, rubbed and so on. Except that game is text-based, and besides vague references like fitting into hands each character's breast size is only stated once, during their introduction or first nudity. Now which game deserves the higher ranking for the "small_breasts" tag?

In my experience with e-hentai common aspects or theme-based tags can be estimated quite well by factoring in the other tags, while pretty much any niche fetish can be expected to only appear in a small subset of images. The main outlier being things which get banned on most websites because people tend to gather those and slap a giant warning in the gallery title. Due to the interactive nature of games even a quantitatively accurate level system could run into issues, for example The Dead End IIRC has a global toggle to switch the sex partners between "passed out woman" and "rotting corpse/zombie". I think most people would run the hell away from a game tagged as "necrophilia:50%" but you can go through the entire thing as if it were "unconscious/sleeping:100%" instead.

 

[Benji13]

the whole tag system needs a huge overhaul anyway. we have games with pregnancy tag, cause the dev promised it would come in the future. that in turn fucks up the whole tag search. when i wanna search for game with pregnancy in it i don't wanna play games that might have it in the future, i wanna play games that actually have it! same bullshit with impregnating someone in a game. it's always tagged as pregnancy even though it should be tagged as impregnation. there is a difference in impregnating a girl or fucking a pregnant girl. last but not least i even saw a game that had the pregnancy tag even though it had nothing to do with it. you only got to see one clothed pregnant side character in one scene talking with ya. thats it. ya can enlarge the list by with all the other tags here.

what we desperately need is:
1.: more and more precise tags (including small breasts ofc.).
2.: 3 levels for a tag.
1st level: this tag is the prime focus in the game. lots of scenes.
2nd level: it's a prime focus for a side character, or there are some scenes in general.
3rd level: one or two scenes at max.

unfortunately the tags on e-hentai are also not always good. sometimes you have comics with a tag in it that just happens on one page, yet that tagis treated the same as all the other tags that are more prominent in that comic. that's why i would like to have a level based tag system where you can simiply colorize these tags to see at one glance what tag is prominent and what is not.

I support this. Would add the possibility to filter what's shown. So that you only see level or level 1 and 2 tags. The System that Sphere42 mentioned could be a bit to much. Some games already have 4 or even more rows or tags. If every tag would have the subtags it could be a chaotic mess. Maybee with the option to hide all subtags? maybe everyone can decide for each tag if it shows the subtags or not, and which level of each Tag is shown? That would be the best for everyone but also quiet a lot of work to program it and for every uploader to tag the game properly.

My sugestion: Some more tags (small breasts and some other that are missed here) and level for each tag. That would be not to much work to program and would surely give us added value. Than if there is still time an leisure, the other points can be worked on.

 

[ImperialD]

WTF i fucking love small tits on women , young old i don't give a shit they look soooo freakin sexy : A=cup mmmmm B= cup (yummy)


hey how come i just see this thread and its got 2 pages already !!!!

 

[Benji13]

Hence "start with". The issue is that binary presence or non-presence is rather easy to prove empirically (basically "tits or gtfo") whereas coming up with universal quantitative guidelines would be next to impossible. Say for example you have one game where a single-scene side character has small breasts but said scene is an interactive animation on par with the better Flash games. All other characters in that game have monstrous melons larger than their heads. And then compare that to a second game where everyone has small breasts and all the content involves them being fondled, licked, rubbed and so on. Except that game is text-based, and besides vague references like fitting into hands each character's breast size is only stated once, during their introduction or first nudity. Now which game deserves the higher ranking for the "small_breasts" tag?

In my experience with e-hentai common aspects or theme-based tags can be estimated quite well by factoring in the other tags, while pretty much any niche fetish can be expected to only appear in a small subset of images. The main outlier being things which get banned on most websites because people tend to gather those and slap a giant warning in the gallery title. Due to the interactive nature of games even a quantitatively accurate level system could run into issues, for example The Dead End IIRC has a global toggle to switch the sex partners between "passed out woman" and "rotting corpse/zombie". I think most people would run the hell away from a game tagged as "necrophilia:50%" but you can go through the entire thing as if it were "unconscious/sleeping:100%" instead.

1. Your example: The second should have a level 3 at small breasts and the first a level 2 or 1, based on how large and imprtant that scene is. Images is not the only thing. In your example every text-based game should only have the tag "textbased" and nothing more. It's your imagination that does the thing with the big or small breasts. So it is absolutely sufficient to mention it once how your characters look to deserve the tag (or the according level). And in the text based games I played until now important things are mentioned more than just once. And in porn games breasts are normaly very important.

2. There could be one or more "undefined" levels for such things. For fetishes that are avoidable or if the tag is not clear enough. But than there should be a clearification what this undefined tag meant in the description. The more I thonk about leveling the tags the more I like this idea.

 

[Daxter250]

Say for example you have one game where a single-scene side character has small breasts but said scene is an interactive animation on par with the better Flash games.

third level as it's only one single scene. doesn't matter how high the quality is. what matters is, how often that tag comes into play in a game. big tits would first level here.

Except that game is text-based,

first level for small tits.


ah jeah, i played the dead end. i think all three tags: zombie, dead & sleeping could be applied to the game. it's big part of the game, whether you choose that route or not. you can also play certain games without triggering any sex acts. doesn't mean though the game is non-h. game like seeds of chaos have a game over scene right at the start. doesn't mean it's a short game either, right? other than that there is still the option to write down that it's avoidable. e.g. you then would have a necrophilia (avoidable) written in red text (red text would mean: level 1).
but i do understand what you mean here. ya gotta have a strict instruction on how to handle it. e.g. in order to decide what level a tag should get, the whole game with all its side routes has to be taken into account. how big tits should be to be still called "small tits". when the "rape" tag will be used and so on and so on. will everyone like that decision? ofc. not. but rules are there to give clearity how things are handled, whether some like it or not.

I support this. Would add the possibility to filter what's shown. So that you only see level or level 1 and 2 tags. The System that Sphere42 mentioned could be a bit to much. Some games already have 4 or even more rows or tags. If every tag would have the subtags it could be a chaotic mess. Maybee with the option to hide all subtags? maybe everyone can decide for each tag if it shows the subtags or not, and which level of each Tag is shown? That would be the best for everyone but also quiet a lot of work to program it and for every uploader to tag the game properly.

My sugestion: Some more tags (small breasts and some other that are missed here) and level for each tag. That would be not to much work to program and would surely give us added value. Than if there is still time an leisure, the other points can be worked on.

yep. fully agree here. subtags are too chaotic. and why using subtags when you could use the traffic light system that is also in use for our foods? easy to understand and it gives a rough understand what you have in front of you.
the workload could become huge though. every game needs to be retagged (and the guy tagging the game has to play the game through in order to tag it properly). i wouldn't mind helping out as an "official" tagger here though . so Sam, if you need a tagger, i would gladly help ^^.
but you can bypass this huge amount of workload for the mods by using a tag "rating" system similar to that vndb.org e.g. uses. this system allows EVERYONE to tag the game. you can vote whether small tits should be lvl 1, 2 or 3 (or if it's even part of the game). the option that gets the most votes (let's say lvl 1) will be shown. in this case small tits will be shown as a level one tag. or even better. make it a color based rating. if 50% vote for lvl 1 (red text) and 50% vote for lvl. 2 (yellow text) the outcome would be a tag written in orange.

maybe instead of going heads on with a lot of tags, let's do a hybrid of your suggestion by adding new tags one after another over time to see if it's doable. if not ya gotta live with the tags that are already included. just a thought ofc.

 

[Virulenz]

Daxter250
Your Level Idea could be the thing. It would require much less work from the Admins than adding/splitting multiple tags and the tag-list wouldnd grow in confusing lengths. But i would change it in:
1. Focus (Tags for higly present content and planned course of the game/story)
2. Content (like now, all common contents of the game)
and 3. Avoidable/Optional

 

[Sphere42]

In your example every text-based game should only have the tag "textbased" and nothing more.

Not at all, in a "yes or no" system everything would still be valid. But if the sole female spends 3/4 scenes wearing a baggy hoodie I would be quite peeved to see that tagged as "small_breasts:100%" even though the remaining quarter of scenes show it to be true.

It's your imagination that does the thing with the big or small breasts. So it is absolutely sufficient to mention it once how your characters look to deserve the tag (or the according level). And in the text based games I played until now important things are mentioned more than just once. And in porn games breasts are normaly very important.

If it's only in your imagination it is not "in" the game. And we don't want to tag all topless-action-only games "ambiguous futa" and "ambiguous pubic hair" because you can imagine what the girls have in their pants. I'm not saying it cannot work, just that it wouldn't be anywhere near as easy to get working properly.

 

[Daxter250]

Daxter250
Your Level Idea could be the thing. It would require much less work from the Admins than adding/splitting multiple tags and the tag-list wouldnd grow in confusing lengths. But i would change it in:
1. Focus (Tags for higly present content and planned course of the game/story)
2. Content (like now, all common contents of the game)
and 3. Avoidable/Optional

the only thing i don't like here is, that planned tags would also be in the same catergory as highly present tags.

or do you intend on forbidding a tag to be in the content category if it's a planned feature and thus in category 1? that could actually solve the problem. if it's in both categories you know it's currently in the game AND heavily focused. if it's only in the focus category then you know, that it's only planned and not implemented in the game yet.

hmmmm

 

[Sphere42]

the only thing i don't like here is, that planned tags would also be in the same catergory as highly present tags.

or do you intend on forbidding a tag to be in the content category if it's a planned feature and thus in category 1? that could actually solve the problem. if it's in both categories you know it's currently in the game AND heavily focused. if it's only in the focus category then you know, that it's only planned and not implemented in the game yet.

hmmmm

Speaking of which, add an exclusion option already FFS! Not a profile-tied perma blacklist but the option to bleep out crap like "no sexual content" or "abandoned" rather than trying to figure out how the logical inverse can be approximated with our limited number of selections.

 

[Daxter250]

Speaking of which, add an exclusion option already FFS! Not a profile-tied perma blacklist but the option to bleep out crap like "no sexual content" or "abandoned" rather than trying to figure out how the logical inverse can be approximated with our limited number of selections.

you can exclude abandoned games but not tags.

when you go to the filter option, go to prefix:status. see that lil' X next to abandoned? that means, that you will search for games that are not abandoned. too bad it's not implemented for tags though :/.

 

[Sphere42]

you can exclude abandoned games but not tags.

when you go to the filter option, go to prefix:status. see that lil' X next to abandoned? that means, that you will search for games that are not abandoned. too bad it's not implemented for tags though :/.

Ah right, I forgot "Abandoned" has its own entry there. We still need one for "Alpha/Demo/v0.1" because I do want to give those a chance every now and then instead of mentally running the filter myself, but for certain searches they just have absolutely no place. Especially the ones trying to approximate "female_protagonist -rape -corruption", what good is a search "hit" for that when it's a short intro trying to milk the Patreon?

 

[Virulenz]

Daxter250
My thought for the planned future content was not to add Tags that dont are present in the game. A little bit should be already there. Lets say you are a Dev and made a game. Your plan is to focus at, dunno, lets say BDSM. Such content takes time, you dont go in a Bar meet a girl and take her to your torture Room...so its very unlikely to already have BDSM scenes in your first release, but your inner thoughts, the Room, maybe a few dialogues and other things will give the hint of what is coming. For now you would add the BDSM Tag and some people who are into it or hate it will start asking if it will be avoidable or forced, how many of it is planned or will it be the focus of the whole game. Same goes for other games with other loved or hated Tags. Adding them straight to the Focus category could reduce the same questions over and over and gives everyone who love the Tag the possibility to search for games with this focus and dont find everything with little or even avoidable content. In my case, seach for lesbian games and you get thousands results with games who only have a few scenes and only 1-3 correct results per page. And it would be nice to filter NTR focused games out of my results and keep the avoidable NTR games.

 

[Janice Davis]

I also vote for a "small tits" tag! I sometimes find myself immediately rejecting a game when I see that the MC has giant 44DD melons, since I have small(ish) tits myself, and I like to identify with the protagonist.

 

[ImperialD]

I also vote for a "small tits" tag! I sometimes find myself immediately rejecting a game when I see that the MC has giant 44DD melons, since I have small(ish) tits myself, and I like to identify with the protagonist.

while i'm not a female .... i agree with the small tits .... my wife has them and i love em' .... like my dad used to tell me back years and years ago .... anything more than a mouth full is a waste

 

[Helmeted Smith]

Are these small enough?

EDIT:
I think something that both small and big boobs lovers agree on is: variation of tags regarding boob sizes, pls!
I've seen people complaining about the "big tits" tag too, saying "Boobs not big enough ."
They probably need "Huge Tits" tag.

 

[ImperialD]

Are these small enough?

why not just have her leaning over the sears tower with them ... using the tower to hold them up

 

[F4C430]

EDIT:
I think something that both small and big boobs lovers agree on is: variation of tags regarding boob sizes, pls!

No because it would be more subjective tags to get wrong and disagree on. It would be a bigger mess with even more complaints. If you don't want big tits, use this with "big tits" excluded.

 

[Helmeted Smith]

No because it would be more subjective tags to get wrong and disagree on. It would be a bigger mess with even more complaints. If you don't want big tits, use this with "big tits" excluded.

Yeah, the last thing we want is a war on boobs.

That's why we need an unbiased tagging system representative of all sizes of boobs.

ALL BOOBS ARE EQUAL AND EQUAL REPRESENTATION IS REQUIRED!
*play soviet music*

 

[Benji13]

No because it would be more subjective tags to get wrong and disagree on. It would be a bigger mess with even more complaints. If you don't want big tits, use this with "big tits" excluded.

That don't really help. Most games that includes girls with small tits also have girls with big tits. I'm not against variation, but I really like it if at least one of the (main) girls got small tits. Plus many developers don't put a big tits tag on the game even if it contains really big melons. Or the game just have normal sized breasts (not the same as small), so no tag either.
I don't need 30 different tags for each size and appearence. I already would be really happy if there would be one tag for biger and one for smaller tits. Maybe one for normal sized/medium.