I don't get shotacon.

ChadChan3D

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Lolicon is obvious, it's simulated kiddy porn for sick fucks what want to fuck little girls. (No judgment. :p) But shotacon... the vast majority of it I've seen (and as a regular nhentai user, I've seen *a lot*, the last few years it's been taking over the hentai manga/doujinshi scene to nearly the same degree as NTR) is still super male-gaze-y. Like, yeah, there's a little boy there, but the focus is still very much on the women. It feels like, whereas the fantasy being serviced with lolicon is fucking little girls, the fantasy being serviced with shotacon is fucking grown women *as a little boy*, and I just... can't wrap my head around why that's appealing to anyone (let alone apparently to half of Japan).
The shotacon you're talking about is fantasy fulfillment for emotionally stunted men.

If the Ugly Bastard reflects men who think themselves ugly or unwanted, then the shotacon reflects men who feel emotionally underdeveloped. Both are power fantasies.

It is a growing fetish because men across societies are failing to mature. They have few adult male figures to guide them and society pushes them to feel their emotions in unrestrained ways. They are stunted, like children. Thus they relate to a boy hero.

Men may also relate the onset of their sexuality with their pre-adolescence. Many men are condition to sex too young (thank you internet) so the formative associations men have with sexuality is a desire for older women when they were boys.

I'm proof of this phenomenon: Because of hardships I masturbated well before puberty. I had a fashion model for an Aunt and a female fresh-out-of-college teacher in the second grade who became constants in my fantasies (another reason, coincidentally, why incest grows in popularity--the females in your environment color your fantasies and kids today are sheltered from strangers).

Most shotacon art therefore is a wish fulfillment of "Aha! That boy is accomplishing what at his age I could only dream of doing."
 
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for me , it's fulfilling my desire of wanting to fuck ever since i was a kid. I mean , were u not horny as a kid/teen? U never has a hot teacher or older women in ur life that u rly wanted to bang but couldnt?

That's what shotacon does for me. I dont enjoy shotacon cause im into young boys, I enjoy shotacon because i want to BE THE young boy.
Honestly when i was a child, i had more of a thing for girls near my age. I didn't really start looking at older women until i was older myself..like 16-18. Believe me i too was a horny kid/teenager myself and if there was as much art out as it is now then i would be jumping for joy that adults are out there making X-rated stuff where I as a child was the target audience(even if thats not the case). To my dismay, I'm no longer a child so this mindset doesn't click for me. When looking at adult art, comics, or games, one of the last things that interests me is watching or reading about a milf, mom, aunt, sister, random girl, or monster woman pushing herself on or being pushed up on by a prepubescent 1-10 year old boy. My ire for shotacon is a bit more than just this but i will add that i wouldn't have such hatred for shotacon if it wasn't such a omnipresent tag.
 

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I will also add my contribution here :)
Like i said kids are cruel
And im very in touch my inner child
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As people here say, it's just a fantasy... I also liked the concept of "maternal" care. Oh yes, I liked it. When you're small but you can fuck an adult woman who can probably also take care of you oh how sweet. And you don't have any worries, you're safe because you're small :) not an adult, not an mature. The shotacon shows innocence and purity on the part of a man's feelings. it seems to me that many people underestimate this and forget thinking only about the innocence of a woman
So look ahead
 

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The shotacon you're talking about is fantasy fulfillment for emotionally stunted men.

If the Ugly Bastard reflects men who think themselves ugly or unwanted, then the shotacon reflects men who feel emotionally underdeveloped. Both are power fantasies.

It is a growing fetish because men across societies are failing to mature. They have few adult male figures to guide them and society pushes them to feel their emotions in unrestrained ways. They are stunted, like children. Thus they relate to a boy hero.
You're completely on the wrong path here.

First of all, many men like women who take care of them. Even Chris Bumstead told in an interview how he was really pressured by the next championship and when he felt really down, it was his girlfriend who took care of him.

Playing a shota only emphasises this feeling. Games are a way to escape reality and relax - we play games on our off days, or after a long stressful day of work. So the imagination that you could lay down in the lap of a literal angel is as old as humanity.

Secondly, the fact that a grown woman would fuck a shota boy simply implies how much lust is in her. It's so much, that she's even willing to go after a little boy. And since little boys don't have anything to offer (money, good looks, protection, power/benefits) the affection/lust is "pure" and not driven by any other factors. Feeling that the opposite is almost breaking from lust, is simply hot. Plus the attraction of the forbidden.

Same as shooting civilians in the head in GTA while there is absolutely 0,00% interest to do that in real life. Has nothing to do with "hidden desire to kill people", in the same fashion that playing shota games doesn't imply the "desire to be a little boy". Games are fictional worlds where we can just make experiences that we can't make in real life (at least not without consequences), so games are kinda a safe place with a sandbox where we can try everything out and simulate things. Curiosity is just a human nature.
 

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You're completely on the wrong path here.

First of all, many men like women who take care of them. Even Chris Bumstead told in an interview how he was really pressured by the next championship and when he felt really down, it was his girlfriend who took care of him.

Playing a shota only emphasises this feeling. Games are a way to escape reality and relax - we play games on our off days, or after a long stressful day of work. So the imagination that you could lay down in the lap of a literal angel is as old as humanity.

Secondly, the fact that a grown woman would fuck a shota boy simply implies how much lust is in her. It's so much, that she's even willing to go after a little boy. And since little boys don't have anything to offer (money, good looks, protection, power/benefits) the affection/lust is "pure" and not driven by any other factors. Feeling that the opposite is almost breaking from lust, is simply hot. Plus the attraction of the forbidden.

Same as shooting civilians in the head in GTA while there is absolutely 0,00% interest to do that in real life. Has nothing to do with "hidden desire to kill people", in the same fashion that playing shota games doesn't imply the "desire to be a little boy". Games are fictional worlds where we can just make experiences that we can't make in real life (at least not without consequences), so games are kinda a safe place with a sandbox where we can try everything out and simulate things. Curiosity is just a human nature.
You're right. With most fetishes there is a flip to every side.

For every dick stomper is a man who wants his dick stomped.
For every netorare lover there is a bull and a cuck.

What you describe is the "good-natured" shota lover, who likes a dominant woman and a pure, eager boy. I'm talking about the mean shota liked by degenerates.

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You're right. With most fetishes there is a flip to every side.

For every dick stomper is a man who wants his dick stomped.
For every netorare lover there is a bull and a cuck.

What you describe is the "good-natured" shota lover, who likes a dominant woman and a pure, eager boy. I'm talking about the mean shota liked by degenerates.

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this is already some kind of Taoism :)
 
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The idea is exactly that. From my point of view, what's really arousing is to see women(especially MILF) having their way with shota. Is the same way for me when it comes about bestiality. It's not the ANIMAL nor the SHOTA, it's the woman getting nasty in situations with animals and shotas.

There are different kinds of "sick fucks", you know. But THAT kind of "sick fuck" you're talking about would read some yaoi shota about some old fat guy sticking his tiny dick into a shota, which ain't my thing.
That's pretty much my view on it. The depravity of a grown woman doing something so taboo for her own sexual satisfaction is what makes it hot.
She doesn't need to, because any man would be happy to stick his dick in her, but she is so perverted she goes out of her way to an animal or horny boy to get humped by them instead.
Bonus points if she takes it up the ass.
 

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While I don't seek it out and so have only been exposed to it in games or eromanga that just-so-happened to have them as a side dish, what I've seen looked like an excuse to make the male MC submissive. That idea, that there -needs- to be an excuse and men can't just prefer that, is one of those things most people understand subconsciously but don't actively consider. Most of the time it seems to boil down to smol pp - that's just how boys seem to think, and a shota (usually? I think there are big dick shotas sometimes just like there are loli characters with developed boobs, but this is the archetype) has that. If it's just a slight emasculation like the woman being in charge then the boy's age 'makes sense', like he's not old enough to take charge as he's 'supposed to' and so it can be enjoyed without any further humiliation involved.

It can also play on the quasi-sexual fixation that moms can get with their sons (if you know anyone or have seen posts by women who gleefully call themselves ~boy moms~ then you might be able to see how this can translate into an ara ara type in porn language), with or without crossing actual incest lines.

And for those who really do just want to fantasize about fucking childish figures their gender is never all that important. Actual diddlers usually target both boys and girls.
 

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I like situations where the lady is forcing the guy to cum. I like shotacon because the women can physically overpower the guy while still being attractive to me.
That's true, too, shota is an easy way to have a woman be able to overpower a boy without dipping into fantasy stuff like orcs or amazons.
 

balitz Method

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The shotacon you're talking about is fantasy fulfillment for emotionally stunted men.

If the Ugly Bastard reflects men who think themselves ugly or unwanted, then the shotacon reflects men who feel emotionally underdeveloped. Both are power fantasies.

It is a growing fetish because men across societies are failing to mature. They have few adult male figures to guide them and society pushes them to feel their emotions in unrestrained ways. They are stunted, like children. Thus they relate to a boy hero.
There are a -lot- of kinks which directly reflect the perpetual adolescence we're seeing throughout the world.
 

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The thought I had was the age play! I feel this fills the fantasy of being the kid wanting to fuck your favorite crush that being a teacher, friend of mom, or just a older woman you had in your life at that younger age. Tho I figures they're other reasons too.
 

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I don't believe there is only one reason why people like to play shota games. To me shota games only ever made sense in incest games. And even in those games I need the corruption tag to really enjoy it.
 
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The thought I had was the age play! I feel this fills the fantasy of being the kid wanting to fuck your favorite crush that being a teacher, friend of mom, or just a older woman you had in your life at that younger age. Tho I figures they're other reasons too.
Bingo /thread
 
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megaplayboy10k

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A large number of games are "shota adjacent"--main character is a high school senior, often on the slender, short and young looking side.
Even the games with a college freshman MC is essentially a "barely legal" protagonist.

Still think a lot is just vicarious wish fulfillment.