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RPGM I Fell in Love with the Demon Queen... But Now I have to Share Her??! [v0.2.5b] [MTL_Enjoyer]

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Were you able to watch the outside bath scene after using the salts? (v0.2.5)

  • Yes, it was easy

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  • Yes, but it was unclear

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  • No, I didn't paid attention

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  • No, I couldn't even if I tried, it was unclear

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  • What purple/green Idols puzzle?

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Needing RTX4090 to play RPGM game is crazy. People experience issues with RPGM games even on high-end PCs partly due to how RPGM engine is, partly due to lack of optimization by devs.


Adding all quest-related buildings to fast-travel options is a way to mitigate this perf issue, since many people prefer fast-traveling instead of running around the map, which gets boring and annoying over time.

Just finished current version and I liked it overall, but the last Derrick scene was kinda more on NTR side? Sure, for now it's just a delusion and that the cucky MC is into it, but looks like Sarah's inner demon is bending her into cheating since she didn't ask MC's approval to do things with other men.
Well netorare and netorase are kinda similar in a way? I guess it's a matter of transparency between relationships since one is acknowledged while the other one is not? Idk I'm not thinking straight and why am I trying to understand this shit it gets me hard eitherway
 

(KafkaHibino)

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I hear You i wanna know ..!!!
here is an idea exploring a dungeon with his wife ,they step on a trap ,u get blinded for a few sec and in the meantime the girl gets kidnaped on a hidden rom and u have to find the hidden rom while doing and activating trap doors ore a maze could be useful for that , so the main goal will be to find mc girl ,,, and in the meantime the kidnapers will be enjoying her ,,,, but the (scene must be nest to the screen like a minimap ) when can see what the wife is doing while trying to find her and saver her and the longer we take to save here the more content will be ... like we start with foreplay after with licking and sucking and in the end penetration
 

Raferu

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Well netorare and netorase are kinda similar in a way? I guess it's a matter of transparency between relationships since one is acknowledged while the other one is not? Idk I'm not thinking straight and why am I trying to understand this shit it gets me hard eitherway
Netorare: girl is stolen or sleeps around without the MC's consent. It doesn't matter if he likes it or not.
Netorase: girl sleeps around after the MC shared that he likes the idea and both agree on trying it.

In essence, consent is the key difference between NTR and NTS.
 
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Well, the idea is that the 'demon' is trying to influence the MC to lean towards his cuckolding fetish.
The MC could leave the 'deluded town' whenever he wanted if he really wished to.
And this is affecting the heroine, but she doesn't know what's happening.

And yeah def don't wanna make MC too cucking obsessed lol. Like some MCs on netorase that are constantly thinking of getting cucked or being insecure if they're going to get cheated for real or something. The idea is MC might be somewhat insecure at the beginning because he is kinda trying to fight or deny his emotions, but after they're actually exploring the sharing, the MC is more in the pro active side of things, maybe insecure some times but mostly horny.

here is an idea exploring a dungeon with his wife ,they step on a trap ,u get blinded for a few sec and in the meantime the girl gets kidnaped on a hidden rom and u have to find the hidden rom while doing and activating trap doors ore a maze could be useful for that , so the main goal will be to find mc girl ,,, and in the meantime the kidnapers will be enjoying her ,,,, but the (scene must be nest to the screen like a minimap ) when can see what the wife is doing while trying to find her and saver her and the longer we take to save here the more content will be ... like we start with foreplay after with licking and sucking and in the end penetration
Nice idea, though I doubt payment processors would love that.
Besides rape is a big no, I can take some of your points for inspirations (y) .
 

Raferu

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Nice idea, though I doubt payment processors would love that.
Besides rape is a big no, I can take some of your points for inspirations (y) .
It could be implemented in a different way, one that doesn't involve rape.

Perhaps the kidnappers are only expecting money or expecting to fight the hero once he arrives. But the DQ gets horny and offers herself instead (of course, this is only after the MC has told her about sharing). The kidnappers are unsure at first, but she seduces them (easily, since she's the DQ). That's where the game mechanic Sebastian mentioned comes in, where you can see in a corner or a side screen what's going on between them. Then you can leave it up to the player whether she actually goes through with it or not (and to what degree), either by taking too long to "rescue" her or by making a conscious yet obvious choice (so the player remains in control of the kink). That last one could be going through a door marked "Trap-filled hallway!" instead of another door marked "This way to the prison ;)". If the player decides to let it playout you could arrange it so they arrive during different moments they get to see different brief scenes in response. For example, if he arrives while she's sucking them off she could tease him about it, but let the player make yet another choice to let her continue or leave. If he lets her do her thing the rest could play out, showing the same thing the side scene would show anyway (so you don't have to create different animations). This could provide some replayability (letting her get kidnapped again and again), giving the chance to see different scenes in response to player choice. Maybe even getting to a point where the kidnappers are like "So are we still pretending you guys aren't into this?" :ROFLMAO:

It got a bit convoluted, so sorry for rambling. If you feel this way might still get you in trouble with payment processors somehow (which is understandable, they're a fickle bunch) then never mind, I just thought I could share some input :geek:
 
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It could be implemented in a different way, one that doesn't involve rape.

Perhaps the kidnappers are only expecting money or expecting to fight the hero once he arrives. But the DQ gets horny and offers herself instead (of course, this is only after the MC has told her about sharing). The kidnappers are unsure at first, but she seduces them (easily, since she's the DQ). That's where the game mechanic Sebastian mentioned comes in, where you can see in a corner or a side screen what's going on between them. Then you can leave it up to the player whether she actually goes through with it or not (and to what degree), either by taking too long to "rescue" her or by making a conscious yet obvious choice (so the player remains in control of the kink). That last one could be going through a door marked "Trap-filled hallway!" instead of another door marked "This way to the prison ;)". If the player decides to let it playout you could arrange it so they arrive during different moments they get to see different brief scenes in response. For example, if he arrives while she's sucking them off she could tease him about it, but let the player make yet another choice to let her continue or leave. If he lets her do her thing the rest could play out, showing the same thing the side scene would show anyway (so you don't have to create different animations). This could provide some replayability (letting her get kidnapped again and again), giving the chance to see different scenes in response to player choice. Maybe even getting to a point where the kidnappers are like "So are we still pretending you guys aren't into this?" :ROFLMAO:

It got a bit convoluted, so sorry for rambling. If you feel this way might still get you in trouble with payment processors somehow (which is understandable, they're a fickle bunch) then never mind, I just thought I could share some input :geek:

No yeah I gotchu, something similar to this doujinshi. But instead you have to find a way to see what's happening. Or framed in other way, the heroine using her seduction powers (that you can unlock through the 'demon queen realm') to unlock a route in something like a dungeon (for example... the plot point about the hooded man, well you have to search for something belonging to him in a confiscation warehouse, that has something related to the story) and while she is seducing those guards, you get to see visions of what's happening in real life while you look for the object in the warehouse, and you can choose to act in certain ways that would lead to different outcomes.

And the part of finding her giving a blowjob but you deciding to go away is genius.
 

LazzYk7

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Needing RTX4090 to play RPGM game is crazy. People experience issues with RPGM games even on high-end PCs partly due to how RPGM engine is, partly due to lack of optimization by devs.


Adding all quest-related buildings to fast-travel options is a way to mitigate this perf issue, since many people prefer fast-traveling instead of running around the map, which gets boring and annoying over time.

Just finished current version and I liked it overall, but the last Derrick scene was kinda more on NTR side? Sure, for now it's just a delusion and that the cucky MC is into it, but looks like Sarah's inner demon is bending her into cheating since she didn't ask MC's approval to do things with other men.
rtx4090 and lagging? bro ur pc got a problem
 

Raferu

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No yeah I gotchu, something similar to this doujinshi. But instead you have to find a way to see what's happening. Or framed in other way, the heroine using her seduction powers (that you can unlock through the 'demon queen realm') to unlock a route in something like a dungeon (for example... the plot point about the hooded man, well you have to search for something belonging to him in a confiscation warehouse, that has something related to the story) and while she is seducing those guards, you get to see visions of what's happening in real life while you look for the object in the warehouse, and you can choose to act in certain ways that would lead to different outcomes.

And the part of finding her giving a blowjob but you deciding to go away is genius.
Damn, that doujinshi is truly great! Can't believe I haven't read it before. And, yeah, the way you described it sounds even better. At least more organized than my horny rambling :ROFLMAO:

If you really decide to implement something like this it could become one of the hottest portions of the game, I can already see it. The best part is having choices available. Makes it even sweeter when you could solve the issue in more vanilla ways, but instead decide to let her do her "thing".


rtx4090 and lagging? bro ur pc got a problem
I agree. I play on a potato (Ryzen 7 5700g with integrated graphics) and I have no issues whatsoever. Maybe the occasional hiccup or two, but that's to be expected with a machine like mine.
 

LazzYk7

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Damn, that doujinshi is truly great! Can't believe I haven't read it before. And, yeah, the way you described it sounds even better. At least more organized than my horny rambling :ROFLMAO:

If you really decide to implement something like this it could become one of the hottest portions of the game, I can already see it. The best part is having choices available. Makes it even sweeter when you could solve the issue in more vanilla ways, but instead decide to let her do her "thing".



I agree. I play on a potato (Ryzen 7 5700g with integrated graphics) and I have no issues whatsoever. Maybe the occasional hiccup or two, but that's to be expected with a machine like mine.
i got a 3060 and 5 5600x and i can play in the fps cap with no drops
 

rollgeck

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rtx4090 and lagging? bro ur pc got a problem
That was just an exaggerated response to a guy above who said lag in rpgm games in 2025 is a crazy thing. But it's quite common even on decent newer builds cause they don't handle old-ass rpgm engine well.
My laptop has Intel 8th gen 4/8 CPU with integrated graphics and this game runs smooth everywhere except for the main town map.
 

LazzYk7

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That was just an exaggerated response to a guy above who said lag in rpgm games in 2025 is a crazy thing. But it's quite common even on decent newer builds cause they don't handle old-ass rpgm engine well.
My laptop has Intel 8th gen 4/8 CPU with integrated graphics and this game runs smooth everywhere except for the main town map.
so ur laptop is basically if not worst than an cellphone and u saying the problem is the dev? he cant do miracles man
 
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so ur laptop is basically if not worst than an cellphone and u saying the problem is the dev? he cant do miracles man
Imagine people not upgrading their setups every year, just check out Steam statistics on what CPUs and GPUs people still use today.
Anyway, that's not the main point. The point being that RPGM doesn't always run smooth even on more or less modern systems, and it's up to the devs to make at least some optimization. When most games run smooth and some game on the same engine has bad performance, then it's not entirely the fault of a 'potato' system. Also, pretty sure my laptop still beats any mobile out there.
 

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No yeah I gotchu, something similar to this doujinshi. But instead you have to find a way to see what's happening. Or framed in other way, the heroine using her seduction powers (that you can unlock through the 'demon queen realm') to unlock a route in something like a dungeon (for example... the plot point about the hooded man, well you have to search for something belonging to him in a confiscation warehouse, that has something related to the story) and while she is seducing those guards, you get to see visions of what's happening in real life while you look for the object in the warehouse, and you can choose to act in certain ways that would lead to different outcomes.

And the part of finding her giving a blowjob but you deciding to go away is genius.
now here u got it wrong a never sayed smthing about rape ,,, her is WAy to make a better picture of it , just think about the girl being the one leading every thing even the kidnaping ore u could say she was the master mind behind every step , lest say there was a quest so that a (dungeon ore a tower are in possession of many treasures but in this dungeons ore tower are inhabited by goblin ore orcs ore demy humans ) now u could think that this 2 places would have many floors to explore not only that but on 1 ore 2 of this floors u could ad a underground village ore cite for the dungeon which was inhabited by goblins but this *(village ore city ) is friendly like there is a specific rule not to fight ore attack inside village diff.. races so that the trading posts would be active,,, and inns ofcourse ore a bar on which the MC girl could work there so that ould be allowed to sleep at the inn for free ofc if they don't want to work at the bar they could also make discounds with the owner of the inn by some (private chatting) and offcourse at the bar there would be many costumers that would love to have funn with the waitres
and one of this custumers after some lovely chats with the mc girl and some tips he will be on good terms with here and they will talk about the goblin friends that are on need for some relief and she will agree and after that would be the one to trigger the kidnaping event that will be a usual thing after its activated for the first time ,,, well ofcourse u have still to fall for the trap while exploring .... (sry for my bad writing guys i havent taken any english classes everything i know is by anime and video games )
 

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The point being that RPGM doesn't always run smooth even on more or less modern systems, and it's up to the devs to make at least some optimization. Also, pretty sure my laptop still beats any mobile out there.
You're mostly right, and in general I agree with you. However, in this case it's different. Like I said, if someone with a powerful PC complains about glaring performance issues while my potato PC can run it relatively smoothly then it's an issue with said PC, not the game. Sure, it could use some more optimization, but it's far from having bad performance.
 

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You're mostly right, and in general I agree with you. However, in this case it's different. Like I said, if someone with a powerful PC complains about glaring performance issues while my potato PC can run it relatively smoothly then it's an issue with said PC, not the game. Sure, it could use some more optimization, but it's far from having bad performance.
Actually we are both in agreement about this lol. I have a Ryzen 5 4350G which is potato-er than your 5700G, but still decent. But for now I use a laptop with 8th-gen Core i5 and this game was quite laggy.
You probably misunderstood my remark about RTX4090 a bit, it was in response to this comment from above:
lag in rpgm games in 2025 and blame the dev is crazy
 

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Actually we are both in agreement about this lol. I have a Ryzen 5 4350G which is potato-er than your 5700G, but still decent. But for now I use a laptop with 8th-gen Core i5 and this game was quite laggy.
You probably misunderstood my remark about RTX4090 a bit, it was in response to this comment from above:
Oh, my bad. The performance debate has gotten a bit silly by now and I got a bit too invested. Especially since this dev has been taking steps to improve it ever since the first release :geek:
 

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You're mostly right, and in general I agree with you. However, in this case it's different. Like I said, if someone with a powerful PC complains about glaring performance issues while my potato PC can run it relatively smoothly then it's an issue with said PC, not the game. Sure, it could use some more optimization, but it's far from having bad performance.
Yeah well, the bottleneck is the cpu usage in the main city map.
This plugin in particular 'Visustella Event Movement Core' increases the functionality for event triggers and such (for example, triggering events when you're like 10 tiles away from the event itself, well this plugin does that) but also increases exponentially the calculations made by the engine because it now has to constantly check every single cycle for each new added functionality, now in top of that, bigger maps require more complex calculations because of the added coordinate complexity.

And worse part is, the rpg maker code, or NW.js, is dog water that only uses a single core. That's why you see complains about 'oh the game performs like crap on my laptop but it's not hot at all' yeah because it's only using 25% of your cpu.

Then there's the 'SkipUpdate' plugin that basically cripples the events so that they don't use any extra resources when they don't have to, that I started using it on 0.2.2, but if you do it on the wrong event the game will freeze, so that was fun.

Well, the game will run fine in the rest of maps, is the main map that's a pain. But there are still many events I can optimize, I can cut corners of the map so it's smaller, and I also can keep removing tile layers and replacing them with static images, which will also reduce the CPU usage.

And all of that, only costed me weeks of dev time to start to figure out and take actions :HideThePain:.

tldr: rpg maker is shiet and a mess to deal with anything that's not a classic, linear jrpg with small towns.
 

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And worse part is, the rpg maker code, or NW.js, is dog water that only uses a single core. That's why you see complains about 'oh the game performs like crap on my laptop but it's not hot at all' yeah because it's only using 25% of your cpu.
That's the main issue, really. Javascript in itself wasn't meant to be used for games other than simple, browser-based ones. And to make an entire engine out of that... :sick:

Well, the game will run fine in the rest of maps, is the main map that's a pain. But there are still many events I can optimize, I can cut corners of the map so it's smaller, and I also can keep removing tile layers and replacing them with static images, which will also reduce the CPU usage.
I've seen other devs cut big maps into small chunks. For example, making each district of a city their own map. In this case you could, for example, make the western area a map, the eastern area a second map, and the castle area yet another. I know you already have the outskirts as its own map, but it could solve the performance issues for most, if not all.

That said, I imagine all those changes could break many quests and scripts you have in place, not to mention the save games. o_O
 
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