I have a question

[cannonballrun]

If you're not a new member on the site, you already saw the numerous ads and other popup's showing some ladies and lads earning an honest living by playing some goofy ass scenarios but my point is not that i don't like the ads on the website they have to make a way to earn of course, no there's a type of ad that catched my eye since it was diplayed.

It's the ad games, i think you already saw a pale carnation or an eternum ad here in the forums, and i thought to myself.

Who make and pay for those ads ? the developper ? the admins ? or they hired someone to do the job ?
did the site and the developpers gets cash in return or it's just for the visibility ?

I don't know my postnut clarity made me thought about it

 

[anne O'nymous]

It's the ad games, i think you already saw a pale carnation or an eternum ad here in the forums, and i thought to myself.

Are you sure that you do not confuse with the "promoted games" banner displayed by the forum itself ?

 

[Deleted member 440241]

Are you talking about the signature banners that fans make and share for free?

 

[cannonballrun]

oooh ok my bad i didn't thought about it yes so there's two kind of ad for the games here the promoted games and the signature banners is that right ?

Is there also some special requirements for a game to be promoted by the site ?

 

[anne O'nymous]

Is there also some special requirements for a game to be promoted by the site ?

Being a game that the staff and moderators like. It's a bit more complex than that, but globally it's:
- [moderator 1] Hey, I like this game.
- [moderator 2] Oh, yeah, me too.
- [staff member] Ok, we will promote it next time we change the banner.

 

[moskyx]

The actual rules and discussion about the 'featured games slider' can be found in this thread https://f95zone.to/threads/featured-games-slider.20804/

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

It's a shit system that has been consistently terribly implemented. If they're not going to improve it I wish they just stopped doing it altogether. How are you promoting "underrated games" when it's just the staff circlejerking about their favorite games and the requirement is having less than 750 patrons. Lots of successful games have half that number.

The concept of a panel of people picking up-and-coming or "underrated" games to spotlight is nice in theory, but the way it works now is a joke. I'm sorry, but if you're making over 1k or even over 2k on Patreon a month (like multiple current picks do) you're not some cute little indie game that needs more exposure.

 

[Deleted member 440241]

It's a shit system that has been consistently terribly implemented. If they're not going to improve it I wish they just stopped doing it altogether. How are you promoting "underrated games" when it's just the staff circlejerking about their favorite games and the requirement is having less than 750 patrons. Lots of successful games have half that number.

The concept of a panel of people picking up-and-coming or "underrated" games to spotlight is nice in theory, but the way it works now is a joke. I'm sorry, but if you're making over 1k or even over 2k on Patreon a month (like multiple current picks do) you're not some cute little indie game that needs more exposure.

Yeah, I was wondering how any of the current games could be considered "underrated" when they're all fairly popular. Then I noticed this little gem in the prerequisites.

The developer must be active in the F95zone community

It's not that the games are underrated. It's that the devs are active on F95 and the staff like them, so their game gets propped up.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

It's not that the games are underrated. It's that the devs are active on F95 and the staff like them, so their game gets propped up.

I'm fine with some - idk what you'd call it - not quite nepotism, but it's clearly trying to promote the idea of devs being on F95 and stuff, whatever, it's fine if F95 also gets something out of the deal, but, Jesus Christ, at least actually pick legitimately small games that could use a boost.

 

[Count Morado]

I just use my preferences and turn off the "featured games"... annnnnnd problem solved.

 

[chainedpanda]

Another question, does the site even have ads anymore?

I could have sworn they used to but I've been using adblock for so long. After what happened with Zippyshare recently, I whitelisted F95 but still haven't seen any ads. Whats up with that?

 

[Meaning Less]

I whitelisted F95 but still haven't seen any ads. Whats up with that?

You probably haven't whitelisted the website...

 

[chainedpanda]

You probably haven't whitelisted the website...
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Nah, I def did and I also double checked all of my extensions. Even tried disabling everything. I did receive one small ad in the side bar which I always collapse, but no banner ads like what you showed.

Meh. I assume that maybe I disabled javascript or something else related to privacy. Not willing to re-enable those lol.

Edit: Nvm. I re-enabled all of my extensions and it logged me out. During that time, a banner ad did appear. So whatever. Good enough.

 

[Jaike]

It's a shit system that has been consistently terribly implemented. If they're not going to improve it I wish they just stopped doing it altogether. How are you promoting "underrated games" when it's just the staff circlejerking about their favorite games and the requirement is having less than 750 patrons. Lots of successful games have half that number.

The concept of a panel of people picking up-and-coming or "underrated" games to spotlight is nice in theory, but the way it works now is a joke. I'm sorry, but if you're making over 1k or even over 2k on Patreon a month (like multiple current picks do) you're not some cute little indie game that needs more exposure.

I don't think 1000 a month should be a cutoff at all, that barely pays for rent and heating here and all that ignores things like Daz assets or art commissions. Even 2000 a m is in "I hope you have a paying job" range, but I guess it could work as a cutoff.

Here's an overview of what the games in the slider make:

Alvein - Yni
€587

Night Driver - Black Toad
€439

Goblin Layer - Parodos
€1.579

Depravity - Dante
€1.045

Grandma's House - Moonbox
733 patrons, most popular level is € 5,50, let's say a minimal estimate of € 2935 and a higher estimate of € 3665 (likely before tax rates and Patreon's rate)

After the Inferno - Classy Lemon
€1.676

Price of Power - Pandaman
€792

Oppai Odyssey - Cryoxx
652 patrons, most popular level is € 5,50, let's say a minimal estimate of € 2610 and a higher estimate of € 3260 (likely before tax rates and Patreon's rate)

Divimera - Redikal
€2.665

Color of my Sound - Gallant Trombe
€557

Zeno's Anthology - Chemical Fire
€432

Parasite Black - Damned Studios
€1.890

So that's 5 under 1000, 1 around 1000, 2 around 1500 and 3 (likely) over 2000. Doesn't really look that bad.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

I don't think 1000 a month should be a cutoff at all, that barely pays for rent and heating here and all that ignores things like Daz assets or art commissions. Even 2000 a m is in "I hope you have a paying job" range, but I guess it could work as a cutoff.

Discussions like this are kind of pointless, because certain amounts of money pay for a lot or a little depending on where you live. But yes, I was drunk and mad and overstated the problem. I do still think it's ridiculous to promote "underrated" games that make €1.5k+ a month. I just imagine all the game devs with like a ~$100 to ~$500 Patreon going "oh, yeah, sure, those guys deserved it more."