I just wanna RANT about a lot of little things.

JAMman92

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If you like this stuff, good for you and I wish you all the best, no offense is intended.

Why the hell are there so many asset-flip, copy+paste Turn-Based RPG's?
I'm so sick of seeing RPGmaker assets over and over again.

Why so many Dating Sims?
Many are way too slow and boring, I just wanna skip all the dialogue to get to the good stuff!
I know if things happened too fast it wouldn't be very satisfying... So maybe Dating Sims really just aren't my thing....

Battle-Fuck game mechanics make no sense!
There's no logic behind that system of combat, you have to beat the Succubus that wants to kill you by fucking you, but you need to fuck them back... even though they're essentially the same thing! That's like trying to stop someone from shooting you by ramming you head as hard as you can into their bullets!

Boring "GAME OVER" scenarios with bad context or even no context at all.
Give us an actual reason why the character we play as wouldn't want to get fucked.
The Monstergirl games by Toro Toro Resistance had it right, if the Monstergirl fucks you, you'll have something bad but still somewhat sexy in some way happen to you depending on the Monstergirl, they might do something like:
Suck out your essance/lifeforce/vital bodily fluids.
Dissolve you into nothing.
Trap you in some kind of symbiotic relatioinship with them.
All these kinds of things makes a lot more sense and are a lot more interesting!

Where are the Action Sidescrollers?
We don't get a lot of good Sidescrollers these days, a lot these days are stiff, clunky and barebones. The quality doesn't have to be insane but it should at least be decent.

Where are the HORROR Porn games?
I recently saw someone in a forum that I can't remember off hand say that the Horror porn games are a niche market.... Is this really true?
I really hope that's not true and I don't get why there'd be so little demand them.

I'm sick of seeing boring Human on Human stuff, if I wanted to see two humans fucking I'd watch regular porn! Give me some more Aliens, monsters, mutants, Ghosts

The busty Elf Girl and the Busty Apprentice Sorcerer protagonists are seriously OVERUSED!

I have one or two other things to say, but I'll stop it there.
 

Blaisdale

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Dude, elves are sexy af. Drow, Dark Elf types are best girl. Least imho.
Totally with you on that.
I often picked night elves on wow.

As for the original poster.
Dating sims are great if done right, yes.
But if you don't like it you are not the intended target. (I hate senseless grinding in them, or horrible mini games for money that have no fast way to earn it)
You have your griefs about it and I share in them with some games for sure.

Sounds like gamer burn out though.
Maybe you need to try a new genre of game for a while.
 

kristijanEX

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Well everybody has their own niche, we can't all be happy. I have specific fetishes too which are hard to come by OP, at least you can find non-human sex pretty easy from what I see in the "Latest Updates" tab every day for the last year and a half. However you can't tell me that you found a game with accidental/surprise penetration or games with very creative ways of getting to the sex stage.

Even I have to satisfy myself with the boring vanilla Dating Sims with great models sometimes.
 
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Zakutsa

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Every person has their own preferences. You can just filter in and out tags you like and dislike from the "Latest Updates games".

It's hard enough to make a "unique" fap game with good gameplay and such. Reason why there's overused elements in most porn games because it worked out for most people. As long as it has a decent plot, good grammar and plenty of sexy characters and sex scenes.
 
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caLTD

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Making games is hard. Even with current available assets.

And Making good games even harder.

And the problem is. No body in real game industry try to formularize porn game. There is no recipe, everyone try to formularize plus train themselves to make game.
 
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Porn games aren't a genre in the same way that WWII games aren't a genre. In a lot of ways, almost all the complaints by OP apply to gaming as a whole.

There's a ton of low effort RPGMaker games - because putting something that's technically a game together in RPGMaker is a hell of a lot easier than making art.

Dating sims "taking forever to get to the good part" is debatable. I pick up a dating sim because I think one of the characters is attractive. I play it for more than 10 minutes because the "taking forever" part is compelling - if the story sucks, doesn't matter how hot the people are, I'm not playing it that long.

Also a lot of people enjoy the slow burn more than immediate fucking, or even just immediate making out.

Regarding Battle Fuck Mechanics - you're possibly confusing mechanics for the skin. The mechanics are the numbers that determine if you win or lose. The skin is the text and art explaining what happens when you fail or succeed and, unless the game is keeping track to reward you based on how often you win/lose, that's not mechanics. That's flavor text. And if the flavor text isn't adequately explaining the difference between a win and a loss, then the game forgot to have a decent writer.

I can't even begin to unpack " Give us an actual reason why the character we play as wouldn't want to get fucked." - violence aside, are you literally trying to fuck every single person you come across in your daily life? Do you think everyone you interact with is trying to fuck everyone else too? Why would a game character be any different?

Side-scrollers are hard. Especially when compared to some sort of turn based or time insensitive game. Side scrollers need quick reaction and good, fluid controls and that's hard enough when you aren't also making sure tits and cocks are flopping around in an entertaining way.

Horror as a gaming genre is about putting the character in a position where they have little power. Porn games generally give characters control over who they fuck when. Mixing the two is difficult to do, aside from games where you play someone getting raped or imprisoned. Now if you're defining horror to be "Monsters", then people who like monsterfucking will often play games also aimed at the furry crowd as - you get various monsters, you get to fuck them, and you're typically in power. That covers your succubus, minotaur, etc types. For ghost, vampires, zombies... Vampires show up relatively frequently, ghosts and zombies often trip various "Necrophilia" rules on various sites, especially zombies - for obvious reasons. That makes them harder to make.

Getting non-human characters that are also attractive is difficult. Someone really in to someone's face - their eyes, their smile - will have a hard time feeling much for a scaled lizard-headed humanoid, no matter how big their equipment is. Aside from tripping bestiality rules when they stop being humanoid, non-humanoid characters are even harder to make attractive. Something like an elf is easy - take a person, put funny ears on them, and stop. You have an elf. If you can make a person attractive, you can make an elf attractive. You might say the same thing about a centaur, but... with a centaur, or a satyr, or mermaid even - the top might be human and normal, the part you fuck is not. And that's hard to make appealing.
 

Ambir

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There's a ton of low effort RPGMaker games - because putting something that's technically a game together in RPGMaker is a hell of a lot easier than making art.

Side-scrollers are hard. Especially when compared to some sort of turn based or time insensitive game. Side scrollers need quick reaction and good, fluid controls and that's hard enough when you aren't also making sure tits and cocks are flopping around in an entertaining way.
Yup. Making games that are entertaining is hard. Porn games make this especially true because you need art people can fap to, which adds an additional constraint. This is why you see a lot of games cutting corners in some places to allocate more budget to the art (time or money or both).


Horror as a gaming genre is about putting the character in a position where they have little power. Porn games generally give characters control over who they fuck when. Mixing the two is difficult to do, aside from games where you play someone getting raped or imprisoned. Now if you're defining horror to be "Monsters", then people who like monsterfucking will often play games also aimed at the furry crowd as - you get various monsters, you get to fuck them, and you're typically in power. That covers your succubus, minotaur, etc types. For ghost, vampires, zombies... Vampires show up relatively frequently, ghosts and zombies often trip various "Necrophilia" rules on various sites, especially zombies - for obvious reasons. That makes them harder to make.
I just think horror games as a whole are about trying not to get eaten/killed by whatever is pursuing you. If the creature pursuing you is also the one fucking you, then... Well people are not going to run away from it, but toward it. And if they do that, then the feeling of horror goes away. That's probably why games with monsters are not usually about horror when it comes to porn, but about monsterfucking as was pointed out.

mermaid even - the top might be human and normal, the part you fuck is not. And that's hard to make appealing.
For mermaids specifically, you can probably give them a way to shapeshift into full human. And there are a lot of ways to have sexual actions with someone where you don't fuck them (such as blowjobs and boobjobs). But yeah, bestiality and necrophilia are probably a good reason these games are less appealing to make as a dev.


Overall tho, I'd say it always comes down to the same thing. To make a game that has good mechanics, you need a decent coder. If you want art that will draw people in, you'll need a decent artist. And if you want a story that draw you in, you'll need a decent writer.
So, you either have to hire someone else (money), learn the three (time) or you can also sacrifice something in this (lazy writing, reused models or bad/non-existant game mechanics).
This probably explains most of the gripes of OP.
 
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Obscure

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Most porn devs are low on a lot of things.

Like money, skills, effort, time and talent.

I mean, anyone can write a branching narrative with 4 choices and 3 ends and pay an artist 200$ to 300$ USD per sex scene and spit out a VN or RPGmaker game in a couple months.

And even make a little bit of money.

If you wanna make it side scroller with 4 levels and 4 enemies you're going to need an extra 800$ to 1000$ for the pixel artist.

And if you want it to be good, who would you even hire? The answer isn't a coder, it's a dev that is more qualified to make your game then you are. That is terrifying. I mean, what can you begin to pay them with that isn't the game it'self?

But a Metroidvania, assuming your a normal person that only gets 100$ or 200$ out of your patrons and pays a 300$ a month out of their pocket?

You wanna eat beans on toast for *how* many years?
 
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pharal

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Horror games and non-human games just isn't my thing in a big way.
Sometimes I can go for the uncomfortable games, but I am not really looking for games that stress me out.
That said, I almost never go for straight vanilla games either.

I am surprised at the variance on some topics and new games that are released on this site. Like the Futa, Trans, Furry, and gay games seem to come out in spades right now. I am aware that I am biased since I do not play these games and it may seem to me that they are more frequent than what they are.
It seems to be more popular than people normally let on, so I cannot complain. I mean that I would feel pretty sucky if there was just a few games in total on this site that dealt with my own preference, so assuming that more people are happy, then go for it (not that anyone needs my permission... I am just glad that people might finally find what they like).

Basically I am not looking for "gameplay" as much as I am looking for scenarios. I want to be shown stuff that could not possibly be a part of my normal life. I have seen basic VNs that are freaking amazing to me and I have seen intricate games with many choices and 5-star reviews throughout, that just doesn't do anything for me.
 
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Just my 50 cent. i think they are eazy to make my G. I think that in about a month they can be meaty enogh to play or plow. They ussually have good agemplay.
 
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Busty elves make no sense, you're telling me someone who lives on an exclusive diet of lettuce leafs and grass for 700 years is capable of growing a pair of big tits and a thicc ass? A trues elf is a slim elf.

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jestertlw

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Busty elves make no sense, you're telling me someone who lives on an exclusive diet of lettuce leafs and grass for 700 years is capable of growing a pair of big tits and a thicc ass? A trues elf is a slim elf.

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Which elves are you stating live exclusively on "lettuce leafs and grass?"
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If you mean another creation of elves - I cannot find anything references for the germanic elves from which the main source of our modern concept of elves are derived. In Shakespeare's A Midsummer's Night Dream, the characters aren't shown eating much but snacks - which would be fruits, nuts, etc ... but they are also eating cheese which is a great source of animal protein.
 

jestertlw

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It was a hyperbole meant to make my post a little bit funnier.
I feel a tad bad now that you spent your time trying to debunk my stupid exaggeration.
No problem.

Poe's law ... muthafuggin' Poe's Law.

Also, I was bored ... gave me something to do.