not that it was kinky to begin with, but summertime saga lost a lot when he was forced to sanitize it for patreon. it's still one of the best ones out there (not because how great it is, but how bad everything else is and because he's still reliably producing new stuff), but after the rapey stuff was changed I can't stand the MC being so goody two-shoes he's clearly retarded. always scrathing his neck and smiling that goofy smile, no matter what. it's like he has no will of his own, no personality, no feelings. a little darkness would've gone a long way fixing that. now he's like a lukewarm character from a born-again christian comic. just insufferable.
I never thought max was that rapey. I mean of course he'd be convicted for a whole bunch of stuff in real world, but his motivations were never evil. he never sought to hurt his sisters or family, he didn't hate them, he didn't really even abuse them as in every case it turned out they wanted him to look, touch and fuck them. the worst he did was lying to them to help them get over whatever hangups they had. the only character max was hostile towards was eric, but it was eric who started that. max didn't do shit to him until eric framed him to make his mom hate him and kick him out.
but it's difficult to make an MC who both does rapey stuff but is still in some way likeable. and I must say I find myself often against that wall of getting a great idea for an event but it having some rapey or otherwise disgusting aspect which requires lack of consent to work. which would be fine otherwise, but you know, not patreon proof. IF there were no such limitations, even with my vanilla tastes I'd love to have ministories like the mom getting chased by a horse trying to fuck her for laughs, aliens abducting her for some ufo raping, burglars tying her down and raping her (in a non-ntr way). then you can go redeem that moment with fighting the horse off or justify murdering the aliens and burglars to save her. and then you can deepen the victims character through the changes induced by those ordeals. (which you can't do by the MC raping them and still keep him as hero).
but you can't do that in a VN without making the heroine clearly consent to all those things by instantly turning into a huge slut. which restricts her character to the most boring kind of character, and excludes any stories requiring her to be an unattainable conquest. and of course you can't show the horse cock at all.
I mean a lot of these things exist in the mainstream and are shown on tv at prime time on respectable series by oscar winning actors. sure they don't show dicks penetrating, but you're totally free to tell stories with gang rapes, incest and pedophilia. and it's not that they want to show it either, but they want to tell STORIES where liev schreiber and his brother were raped by a priest, the STORY where tim robbins was gang raped in prison, the STORY where sansa stark was tortured, raped and genitally mutilated. and those are all good stories. write a drama about a rape victim independent woman and you're halfway to an oscar. make her give birth to a mentally challenged child, set it during ww2 and ka-ching you're there.
mainstream can tell those stories, but we can't tell them in a PORN game because no matter how well you do it you risk getting kicked from patreon. which restricts the stories we can tell to a very boring subset of fantasies about cock hypnotized slut moms or more or less vanilla fantasies.
I don't know how clear my point was, but yea, I kinda miss them too. reprehensible characters and events are great for stories. especially if you can still make that character somehow likeable and not just a disgusting asshole.
